Python "Clean N' Fill"

[GiveMeABMW]

Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my tanks
that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying new
things.

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yeah, they work.

(GiveMeABMW) wrote:

>Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my tanks
>that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying new
>things.



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[Watkins Lady]

I can only use mine in one of the three tanks. I can use it on a second
one, but it is too slow. You need good water pressure to draw the water
out. You also need your tank to be higher set than the sink since it works
on gravity. My big tank is high enough to get the flow going, but the other
2 tanks are not. The 40g will drain, but doesn't have enough suction to
siphon the gravel. So, if you have good pressure and fairly high-sitting
tanks, it is well worth the money. I got tired of carrying buckets to
refill my 90g tank, too. In the summer Ican drain it out the nearby window
and then fill with the python.

Tammy

"GiveMeABMW" > wrote in message
...
> Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my
tanks
> that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying
new
> things.

[Geezer From Freezer]

One of the best purchases I made. You can imagine the nightmare in taking
water out of a 63g tank (and bigger) and replacing. The only hassle I have is
temp matching the water. It always seems to swing cold or hot, and takes a few
minutes to get a stable temperature. I'd also prefer to let water sit in the
dechlorinator for longer, but it's not an option unfortunately. Fish don't
appear to be agitated though (just don't do HUGE HUGE changes if you can help
it).


GiveMeABMW wrote:
>
> Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my tanks
> that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying new
> things.

[GiveMeABMW]

You also need your tank to be higher set than the sink since it works
on gravity. >>

Bah, I'm fairly sure the tank is lower than the sink. That didn't even occur to
me.
Also the tank is about 30 feet from the kitchen sink, so I'd have to buy a 50
foot one for those 5 extra feet.
Oh well.

[Charles]

On Thu, 25 Mar 2004 20:08:07 -0500, "Watkins Lady"
> wrote:

> I can only use mine in one of the three tanks. I can use it on a second
>one, but it is too slow. You need good water pressure to draw the water
>out. You also need your tank to be higher set than the sink since it works
>on gravity. My big tank is high enough to get the flow going, but the other
>2 tanks are not. The 40g will drain, but doesn't have enough suction to
>siphon the gravel. So, if you have good pressure and fairly high-sitting
>tanks, it is well worth the money. I got tired of carrying buckets to
>refill my 90g tank, too. In the summer Ican drain it out the nearby window
>and then fill with the python.
>
> Tammy
>
> "GiveMeABMW" > wrote in message
...
> > Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my
>tanks
> > that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying
>new
> > things.
>


I use mine with tanks below the sink level. It works fine.


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with a python and adequate water pressure it doesnt matter if the sink is higher or
lower than the tank... within reason, as in, both on the same floor. Ingrid

(GiveMeABMW) wrote:

>You also need your tank to be higher set than the sink since it works
>on gravity. >>
>
>Bah, I'm fairly sure the tank is lower than the sink. That didn't even occur to
>me.
> Also the tank is about 30 feet from the kitchen sink, so I'd have to buy a 50
>foot one for those 5 extra feet.
>Oh well.



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[Watkins Lady]

I guess I just don't have the pressure to get it going in the smaller
tanks then since it won't work very well in either of my smaller tanks, and
both sit lower. The water pressure would make the difference, I would
imagine.

Tammy

[Joe Smith]

Well I have a 100 gallon tank upstairs that is 18 inches deep and a
180 gallon tank that is 24 inches deep. The sink upstairs is a good
20 foot from the tank and the one downstairs is about 15 foot from the
sink. I ordered a 30 inch tube for both so that I didn't get my hands
wet in the 180 gallon tank, and was very upset when it didn't work on
either tank, then I got the idea that the suction tube was too tall,
and it was, cut it off and it works awesome, if the suction tube is
longer than the depth of the tank they don't work for $#!^. I don't
believe they work on gravity at all. I would recommend one to anybody
who asks. The first time you use one you won't believe how much
debris they pull up, and if watching it go up the tube isn't enough
wait to you wash the ring around the sink out when you get done!!!
oh and I also went to the hardware store and bought clear hose the
same diameter as garden hose and got the connections for the hose
which hook up exactly to the python stuff, then ordered the sink part
of the python system, and the suction tube, much cheaper plus I could
cut the tubing to any length I wanted.



On 25 Mar 2004 21:17:45 GMT, (GiveMeABMW) wrote:

>Are these worth buying? It's such a PITA to lug water when cleaning my tanks
>that I'm very tempted to buy one, but as always I'm skeptical of trying new
>things.

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actually, the Goldfish Guru uses just the bell and hose and knows how to get the
gravity feed going (into her bathtub, which I would recommend to prevent over flow..
or right into the toilet). She got a big bell and large diameter clear tubing and it
really sucks big time. Could empty a small tank in no time at all. problem with
this is getting fish sucked up into the tube of course. they are suck curious little
buggers that they will swim right up to it!!!
the python thingie http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/care/hardware.html can be bought
separate much cheaper. and once the suctioning starts, the faucet can be shut and it
will continue to siphon if there is sufficient drop in height.
when I got rid of the gravel, I got rid of the python and went to itty bitty water
pumps instead. much easier. Ingrid

Joe Smith > wrote:
>Well I have a 100 gallon tank upstairs that is 18 inches deep and a
>180 gallon tank that is 24 inches deep. The sink upstairs is a good
>20 foot from the tank and the one downstairs is about 15 foot from the
>sink. I ordered a 30 inch tube for both so that I didn't get my hands
>wet in the 180 gallon tank, and was very upset when it didn't work on
>either tank, then I got the idea that the suction tube was too tall,
>and it was, cut it off and it works awesome, if the suction tube is
>longer than the depth of the tank they don't work for $#!^. I don't
>believe they work on gravity at all. I would recommend one to anybody
>who asks. The first time you use one you won't believe how much
>debris they pull up, and if watching it go up the tube isn't enough
>wait to you wash the ring around the sink out when you get done!!!
>oh and I also went to the hardware store and bought clear hose the
>same diameter as garden hose and got the connections for the hose
>which hook up exactly to the python stuff, then ordered the sink part
>of the python system, and the suction tube, much cheaper plus I could
>cut the tubing to any length I wanted.



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endorsements or recommendations I make.