Bloody membrane over eye - Help

[MartinBee]

Can anyone advise on the following please

I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.

He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
alarming and sore.

Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
and passing waste ok

Could this be some sort of infection which can be treated?

Any advise would be appreciated.


Thanks in anticipation

Martin

[Geezer From The Freezer]

MartinBee wrote:
>
> Can anyone advise on the following please
>
> I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
> a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.
>
> He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
> cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
> but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
> alarming and sore.
>
> Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
> and passing waste ok

Martin,

What are the Nitrate and PH levels?
How often and how much water do you change?
Is there any sharp objects in the tank?

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the slime coat is thickening. there is something toxic in the water.
move the fish to a tub of fresh water with 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons, and an
airstone.
clean the tank out and move the fish back. if you got gravel, that is probably teh
source of the toxins.
for the fish, you can do a 30 second salt dip to get the slime coat off.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/disease.htm


"MartinBee" > wrote:

>Can anyone advise on the following please
>
>I have a goldfish, around 6-7 years old, 4.5 - 5 inches long on his own in
>a 10 gallon tank with a fluval internal cartridge filter.
>
>He (I'm assuming he's male) has recently developed what I would call
>cataracts e.g. a milky white film over his eyes. I put this down to old age
>but one eye now has blood streaked through the membrane which looks a bit
>alarming and sore.
>
>Ammonia and Nitrite levels are zero and he appears ok otherwise, feeding ok
>and passing waste ok
>
>Could this be some sort of infection which can be treated?
>
>Any advise would be appreciated.
>
>
>Thanks in anticipation
>
>Martin
>



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[MartinBee]

>

> What are the Nitrate and PH levels?

PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
kit, do I need one?

> How often and how much water do you change?
20% ever three / four weeks

> Is there any sharp objects in the tank?

Nope, just him and some plastic plants

Martin

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right, you got gravel and probably your nitrates are sky high.
start changing 50% of the water every day for 5 days.
get teh nitrate test and keep nitrates 20ppm or less.
Ingrid

"MartinBee" > wrote:

>>
>
>> What are the Nitrate and PH levels?
>
>PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
>kit, do I need one?
>
>> How often and how much water do you change?
>20% ever three / four weeks
>
>> Is there any sharp objects in the tank?
>
>Nope, just him and some plastic plants
>
>Martin
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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[Geezer From The Freezer]

MartinBee wrote:
>
> >
>
> > What are the Nitrate and PH levels?
>
> PH = 6.5, Nitrite = 0 ppm, Ammonia = 0 ppm I haven't got a Nitrate test
> kit, do I need one?


Yes you need one. Nitrate can kill if the fish is exposed to high levels for
a long period of time. Also your PH is a bit low should be around 7-7.5. 6.5
isn't
too bad, but I'd want to be getting it a bit more alkaline.

How often do you do water changes?

[MartinBee]

> wrote in message
...
> the slime coat is thickening. there is something toxic in the water.
> move the fish to a tub of fresh water with 1 teaspoon salt per 5 gallons,
and an
> airstone.
> clean the tank out and move the fish back. if you got gravel, that is
probably teh
> source of the toxins.
> for the fish, you can do a 30 second salt dip to get the slime coat off.
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/pg/disease/disease.htm
>

Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out. The
fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.

There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time? how
often should I repeat the salt bath routine?

Cheers
Martin

PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.

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do a 30 second salt dip with 3% salt and gently use your hands to help strip the
slime coat off. then put the fish back into fresh water with 0.1% salt in the water.
with water changes everything should clear up in about 48 hours. Ingrid

"MartinBee" > wrote:
>Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out. The
>fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
>Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.
>
>There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time? how
>often should I repeat the salt bath routine?
>
>Cheers
>Martin
>
>PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.
>



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[MartinBee]

To close this out, the GF is responding well to the treatment and his eyes
are clearing up nicely.
Thanks for the advice, do you know anything about the stock market?

Martin

> wrote in message
...
> do a 30 second salt dip with 3% salt and gently use your hands to help
strip the
> slime coat off. then put the fish back into fresh water with 0.1% salt in
the water.
> with water changes everything should clear up in about 48 hours. Ingrid
>
> "MartinBee" > wrote:
> >Ok, I've done a 100% water change and washed the tanks and filter out.
The
> >fish was in a 0.1% salt solution for 1/2 hour while I was doing this.
> >Before putting him back he had 3 mins in a 0.9% salt solution dip.
> >
> >There doesn't seem to be much difference to his eyes, will it take time?
how
> >often should I repeat the salt bath routine?
> >
> >Cheers
> >Martin
> >
> >PS, there isn't any gravel substrate in the tank.
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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yeah ... stay out of it. Put money into land. Ingrid

"MartinBee" > wrote:
>To close this out, the GF is responding well to the treatment and his eyes
>are clearing up nicely.
>Thanks for the advice, do you know anything about the stock market?
>
>Martin


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