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Kodiak
May 2nd 04, 06:55 PM
I have a 33 gallon, it's about 150%
overstocked (six 1.5" fish) I do a 30%
almost twice a week with dechlorated temp match
water. The smallest fish (a tiny red cap oranda
<1") very suddenly developped a shredded tail.
I see the other fish nipping once in a while, but
nothing serious. There are slight red streaks in
the fins (i know this is bad). I put the fish in qtine,
precycled 10gtank, by himself.

I must have had some sort of spike, not sure if it's
ammonia or nitrite, every time I check it's zero.
I'm just wondering, what is the mechanism in bad
water that causes a tail to shred so quickly?
i imagine the slight nipping from other fish is becasue
a shredded tail might be tasty?
Thirdly, why do all the other fish look 100% healthy?
Are some fish (maybe smaller ones) much more susceptible
to bad water? (he was the smallest, there ae other Red caps in the
tank).

....Kodiak

May 2nd 04, 07:18 PM
invariably water quality problem.. could be spawning this time of year. by the time
shredding is seen the ammonia spike is past. water changes. do you have an ammonia
alert by seachem in the tank?
there are always "indicator" fish, one with poorer blood flow to the fins, etc.
Ingrid

"Kodiak" > wrote:

>I have a 33 gallon, it's about 150%
>overstocked (six 1.5" fish) I do a 30%
>almost twice a week with dechlorated temp match
>water. The smallest fish (a tiny red cap oranda
><1") very suddenly developped a shredded tail.
>I see the other fish nipping once in a while, but
>nothing serious. There are slight red streaks in
>the fins (i know this is bad). I put the fish in qtine,
>precycled 10gtank, by himself.
>
>I must have had some sort of spike, not sure if it's
>ammonia or nitrite, every time I check it's zero.
>I'm just wondering, what is the mechanism in bad
>water that causes a tail to shred so quickly?
>i imagine the slight nipping from other fish is becasue
>a shredded tail might be tasty?
>Thirdly, why do all the other fish look 100% healthy?
>Are some fish (maybe smaller ones) much more susceptible
>to bad water? (he was the smallest, there ae other Red caps in the
>tank).
>
>...Kodiak
>



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Kodiak
May 4th 04, 04:59 AM
Thanks Ingrid!..
Wow I gotta get me one of those Seachem Ammonia Alert!
None of my stupid LFS has any of this stuff.... ...:(
....Kodiak

> wrote in message
...
> invariably water quality problem.. could be spawning this time of year.
by the time
> shredding is seen the ammonia spike is past. water changes. do you have
an ammonia
> alert by seachem in the tank?
> there are always "indicator" fish, one with poorer blood flow to the fins,
etc.
> Ingrid
>
> "Kodiak" > wrote:
>
> >I have a 33 gallon, it's about 150%
> >overstocked (six 1.5" fish) I do a 30%
> >almost twice a week with dechlorated temp match
> >water. The smallest fish (a tiny red cap oranda
> ><1") very suddenly developped a shredded tail.
> >I see the other fish nipping once in a while, but
> >nothing serious. There are slight red streaks in
> >the fins (i know this is bad). I put the fish in qtine,
> >precycled 10gtank, by himself.
> >
> >I must have had some sort of spike, not sure if it's
> >ammonia or nitrite, every time I check it's zero.
> >I'm just wondering, what is the mechanism in bad
> >water that causes a tail to shred so quickly?
> >i imagine the slight nipping from other fish is becasue
> >a shredded tail might be tasty?
> >Thirdly, why do all the other fish look 100% healthy?
> >Are some fish (maybe smaller ones) much more susceptible
> >to bad water? (he was the smallest, there ae other Red caps in the
> >tank).
> >
> >...Kodiak
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.