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Lori
August 3rd 03, 05:15 AM
That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.

Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
him.

Lori

jammer
August 3rd 03, 05:40 AM
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 23:15:58 -0500, Lori > wrote:

>That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
>The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
>or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
>nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
>and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.
>
>Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
>him.
>
>Lori

..Thanks for trapping instead of shooting.
Peace:)

K30a
August 3rd 03, 01:39 PM
I bet the raccoon was sooooo embarrassed to get caught! Let's hope he tells all
his friends to stay away from that pond!


k30a
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Denise
August 3rd 03, 02:52 PM
CONGRATS on a successful "hunt". Now you can sleep much better at night
:-)

Denise

Visit my gardens:

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Lori
August 3rd 03, 03:22 PM
>I bet the raccoon was sooooo embarrassed to get caught! Let's hope he tells all
>his friends to stay away from that pond!

I think more like MAD! He grabbed the trouble light cord that was
under the cage and pulled part of it into the cage and chewed it up!
It wasn't plugged in.

Lori
August 3rd 03, 03:22 PM
>.Thanks for trapping instead of shooting.

:-)

Lori
August 3rd 03, 03:24 PM
>CONGRATS on a successful "hunt". Now you can sleep much better at night

No more noises that send us out of bed for sure!

Andf no more destroyed water plant blloms.

Hank
August 3rd 03, 05:19 PM
I hope you are luckier than I. In the past two weeks I have set the
trap every night and so far the total is eight ........ nothing in the
past three nights ......... so maybe ***crossing fingers**** that's
it.
It's amazing how quickly water-cress and WH can recover.

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"Lori" > wrote in message
...
> That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
> The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
> or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
> nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
> and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.
>
> Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
> him.
>
> Lori

Just Me \Koi\
August 3rd 03, 05:31 PM
Now maybe he can be relocated far to where ......... (I better stop before I
get my self in trouble with Jammer! I really really don't like raccoons!)

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"Lori" > wrote in message
...
> That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
> The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
> or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
> nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
> and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.
>
> Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
> him.
>
> Lori

Lori
August 3rd 03, 07:53 PM
>I bet that's one mad coon!

He was, quietly though :-)

Lori
August 3rd 03, 07:55 PM
>I hope you are luckier than I. In the past two weeks I have set the
>trap every night and so far the total is eight ........ nothing in the
>past three nights ......... so maybe ***crossing fingers**** that's
>it.

What are you using as bait? The critter-catcher putv a can of cat food
in the trap. Took almost 2 weeks to catch him. He tripped it once but
managed to avoid being in the cage at that time, so thought sure he
wouldn't go in the trap again...

> It's amazing how quickly water-cress and WH can recover.

My WH is still struggling.

Dave Fouchey
August 3rd 03, 08:04 PM
I do hate to rain on your parade but...

Where there is one Raccoon there are usually others....




On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 23:15:58 -0500, Lori > wrote:

>That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
>The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
>or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
>nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
>and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.
>
>Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
>him.
>
>Lori

Dave Fouchey, WA4EMR
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Southeastern Lower Michigan
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82° 58' 37'' W
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Time Zone: Eastern

RichToyBox
August 4th 03, 12:46 AM
Not sure about the effectiveness of catch and release. Look at
http://www.eapl.com/raccoon.html
--
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"Hank" > wrote in message
...
> I hope you are luckier than I. In the past two weeks I have set the
> trap every night and so far the total is eight ........ nothing in the
> past three nights ......... so maybe ***crossing fingers**** that's
> it.
> It's amazing how quickly water-cress and WH can recover.
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
>
> "Lori" > wrote in message
> ...
> > That blasted raccoon that has trashed my watergarden twice!
> > The professional critter-catcher left 2 Hav-a-heart traps set a week
> > or so ago, and the one in the crawlspace had been tripped once with
> > nothing in it....but tonight, I heard the trap close, hubby checked,
> > and wow!! the 'coon was IN it this time.
> >
> > Whew! Sure hope the catcher takes him far far away before releasing
> > him.
> >
> > Lori
>
>
>

Lori
August 4th 03, 02:22 AM
>Not sure about the effectiveness of catch and release. Look at

True. However, the entry in the crawlspace is being fixed, so at least
the 'coons will not be getting in under the house. :-)

jammer
August 4th 03, 05:18 AM
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 16:31:32 GMT, "Just Me \"Koi\""
> wrote:

>Now maybe he can be relocated far to where ......... (I better stop before I
>get my self in trouble with Jammer! I really really don't like raccoons!)

:)

Kelly E Jones
August 4th 03, 04:40 PM
In article >,
Lori > wrote:
>
>>.Thanks for trapping instead of shooting.
>

Why? What will become of him now? Will he be released in some other
area, so that he will become someone else's problem? That's hardly
ethical.

Or will the trapper drive miles and miles into the wilderness (yeah,
right) to release him in a location where he won't bother any other
humans? If so, then he's just displacing some other racoon (or other
wildlife), which means that one of them will starve, or kill the
other. Can't see the point of that.

Or is the trapper going to take the racoon to the Shady Acres Rest
Home for Wayward Racoons, where he will live to the end of his days
cared for by a loving staff, with all the Racoon Tasty Snacks he can
eat? That's a pleasant fantasy... perhaps we should go with that one.

Seriously, if the racoon is a problem for you, it's a problem period.
Trapping it just transfers the problem to someone else. Shoot it. If
you can't deal with shooting problem wildlife, don't build your homes
in their habitat.

Kelly

Kelly E Jones
August 4th 03, 04:45 PM
In article >,
Lori > wrote:
>
>>Now maybe he can be relocated far to where ......... (I better stop before I
>>get my self in trouble with Jammer! I really really don't like raccoons!)
>
>:-) The CC is going to take it out in the country and turn it loose.

Swell. I live in the country, and I have to deal all the time with
problem animals the suburbanites dumped in my back yard because THEY
didn't want to deal with them: cats, dogs, rabbits, raccoons, you name
it.

Guess what country folk do these animals?

Kelly

Hank
August 4th 03, 05:37 PM
A slice of bread with peanut butter and I put some on the trip lever.
( this prevents catching the neighbors cat. Also many say
marshmallows)

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"Lori" > wrote in message
...
>
> >I hope you are luckier than I. In the past two weeks I have set the
> >trap every night and so far the total is eight ........ nothing in
the
> >past three nights ......... so maybe ***crossing fingers**** that's
> >it.
>
> What are you using as bait? The critter-catcher putv a can of cat
food
> in the trap. Took almost 2 weeks to catch him. He tripped it once
but
> managed to avoid being in the cage at that time, so thought sure he
> wouldn't go in the trap again...
>
> > It's amazing how quickly water-cress and WH can recover.
>
> My WH is still struggling.

Snooze
August 4th 03, 06:46 PM
"Kelly E Jones" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> Lori > wrote:
> >
> >>.Thanks for trapping instead of shooting.
> >
>
> Seriously, if the racoon is a problem for you, it's a problem period.
> Trapping it just transfers the problem to someone else. Shoot it. If
> you can't deal with shooting problem wildlife, don't build your homes
> in their habitat.

Isn't that how the west was won? If it moves shoot it, if tastes good, cook
it and eat it, otherwise mount it in the trophy room.

Until the coon learns to become like the rat and mouse, they're doomed to
become an endangered species, once we'd developed all their habitat.

Sameer

jammer
August 4th 03, 09:42 PM
If you have to ask why, you wouldn't understand the answer.



On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC),
(Kelly E Jones) wrote:

>In article >,
>Lori > wrote:
>>
>>>.Thanks for trapping instead of shooting.
>>
>
>Why? What will become of him now? Will he be released in some other
>area, so that he will become someone else's problem? That's hardly
>ethical.
>
>Or will the trapper drive miles and miles into the wilderness (yeah,
>right) to release him in a location where he won't bother any other
>humans? If so, then he's just displacing some other racoon (or other
>wildlife), which means that one of them will starve, or kill the
>other. Can't see the point of that.
>
>Or is the trapper going to take the racoon to the Shady Acres Rest
>Home for Wayward Racoons, where he will live to the end of his days
>cared for by a loving staff, with all the Racoon Tasty Snacks he can
>eat? That's a pleasant fantasy... perhaps we should go with that one.
>
>Seriously, if the racoon is a problem for you, it's a problem period.
>Trapping it just transfers the problem to someone else. Shoot it. If
>you can't deal with shooting problem wildlife, don't build your homes
>in their habitat.
>
>Kelly


>

Hank
August 4th 03, 11:27 PM
In my area Animal Control charges $40.00 per animal to trap and remove
an animal and by law they must release it in the same township unless
it is on county property. I bought the same trap they use for $39.00.
Last year I caught five and this year eight and I release them in a
county park ten miles away. If these animals are a nuisance to
everyone in my neighborhood why should I have to pay to have them
removed and set loose were they can return.
Now that I vented, they are right ....... very seldom only one
raccoon.

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"Lori" > wrote in message
...
>
> >I do hate to rain on your parade but...
> >
> >Where there is one Raccoon there are usually others....
>
> Have only seen the one...but the second trap is now under the house
> waiting :-)
>

Lori
August 5th 03, 01:53 AM
>Guess what country folk do these animals?

Dunno about most of ya'll, but when we are at our country home, we
shoot them

Lori
August 5th 03, 01:54 AM
>A slice of bread with peanut butter and I put some on the trip lever.
>( this prevents catching the neighbors cat. Also many say
>marshmallows)

Marshmallows didn't work for me :-(

Lori
August 5th 03, 01:55 AM
>Here it is against the law to catch and release animals (disease and
>population problems). If you trap 'possums or coons you pretty much
>have to kill them. The pound will usually kill them for you if you
>deliver. Your guy is probably going to kill them, but it's better for
>business if he lets you think they are going to "the country".

I don't care what he did with the thing, as long as it isn't living
and pooping and releasing fleas under my house anymore.

LeeAnne
August 5th 03, 04:07 PM
From my experience you only catch the neighbor's cat once - then she's smart
enough to stay away, lol.


"Hank" > wrote in message
...
> A slice of bread with peanut butter and I put some on the trip lever.
> ( this prevents catching the neighbors cat. Also many say
> marshmallows)
>

Hank
August 5th 03, 10:21 PM
When did someone invent a smart cat? ;-}

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"LeeAnne" > wrote in message
...
> From my experience you only catch the neighbor's cat once - then
she's smart
> enough to stay away, lol.
>
>
> "Hank" > wrote in message
> ...
> > A slice of bread with peanut butter and I put some on the trip
lever.
> > ( this prevents catching the neighbors cat. Also many say
> > marshmallows)
> >
>
>

~ jan JJsPond.us
August 6th 03, 06:39 AM
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 15:10:20 +0000 (UTC), (Kelly E
Jones) wrote:

>In article >,
>Lori > wrote:
>> If you can't deal with shooting problem wildlife, don't build your homes
>>>in their habitat.
>>
>>I didn't build my home in their habitat. This is the city,
>
>LOL! What was there before the city?
>
>Kelly

Not to cause more flames, so all grins here when I whine, but Kelly, you
moved to the country, if you'd have stayed in the "now" established cities,
we'd all have some place to dump our city wildlife. ;o)

Or another argument. If your house is over 20 years old, those raccoons and
other varmints are truely encoaching on you as your house was there before
they were born, period! ;o)

~ jan, I live on what once was a sand dune and displaced lizards and
scorpions. House built in '78 we think, so 25 years old, making my house
older than any of the predators that would even think of dining here.

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

LeeAnne
August 6th 03, 05:40 PM
lol - awww Miss Kitty is very smart - if she even hears that metal trap
being set she's gone from the yard ASAP. Don't underestimate the brain
power of the feline, I think they are destined to take over the planet. As
soon as mine can figure out how to open cabinet doors I'm doomed ;-)



"Hank" > wrote in message
...
> When did someone invent a smart cat? ;-}
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1
>
> "LeeAnne" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From my experience you only catch the neighbor's cat once - then
> she's smart
> > enough to stay away, lol.

tom A
August 7th 03, 04:30 AM
HI Jan

question about the skunks ??? when they get in the trap, do they
spray ???? or do they wait for you to pick up the trap and put it in
you truck ???

I have been catching coons here in OKC for the past several years,
and the animal control people will come by and pick them up.
fortunately no skunks so far, but it would interesting to know how
they behave once trapped.


tom A


On Tue, 05 Aug 2003 22:28:57 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 23:46:36 GMT, "RichToyBox" >
>wrote:
>
>>Not sure about the effectiveness of catch and release. Look at
>>http://www.eapl.com/raccoon.html
>
>They've got that right about the skunks moving in. We had a raccoon 2 years
>ago. It hit my place, trashed it, but didn't catch anything (no reward) I
>installed a scarecrow sprinkler and it never bothered me again (trained).
>Last summer though I guess my neighbors down the street started setting a
>have-a-heart trap for skunks... even though I told them skunks were not
>fish eaters. They caught the raccoon, duh, hauled him away and then the
>skunks moved in. Every dog around us got hit last summer. They continued to
>set the trap and hauled away 7 skunks by this spring. I guess they must
>have got them all because it been the best smelling spring/summer we've had
>in a long time. ~ jan
>
>See my ponds and filter design:
>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

tom A.
Please check my WeB SiTe: www.kinetickites.com
or call me @ 405-722-KITE (5483)
or E-mail @

mad
August 8th 03, 02:43 AM
what kind of shingles do you have? my brother had shake shingles and the
raccoons chewed them to make an entrance. he had to have a major repair job
done to the roof. he also had to change to synthetic shingles. seems the
'coons didn't like them as much or something.
mad
--
I used to be indecisive, but now i just don't know.

> From: Lori >
> Reply-To:
> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 20:22:05 -0500
> Subject: Re: Captured!
>
>
>> Not sure about the effectiveness of catch and release. Look at
>
> True. However, the entry in the crawlspace is being fixed, so at least
> the 'coons will not be getting in under the house. :-)
>



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~ jan JJsPond.us
August 10th 03, 04:54 AM
>how tall are these traps? if a skunk cant raise his tail he has
>difficulty spraying ( he still can but its hard for him )
> John Rutz

The solid ones were not very tall, cincular in shape in fact, so the skunk
things its going into a tunnel perhaps? So it is true about the tail? ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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john rutz
August 10th 03, 03:38 PM
~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:
>>how tall are these traps? if a skunk cant raise his tail he has
>>difficulty spraying ( he still can but its hard for him )
>> John Rutz
>
>
> The solid ones were not very tall, cincular in shape in fact, so the skunk
> things its going into a tunnel perhaps? So it is true about the tail? ~ jan
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website


--
when i was a lot younger( and dumber) i used to catch rattlesnakes and
skunks by hand for people when they got into thier houses
for skunk I would grab the tail and hold it down as tight as posible
out of probabley 50 or so only got spayed once




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

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Andrew Burgess
August 10th 03, 04:19 PM
john rutz > writes:

>when i was a lot younger( and dumber) i used to catch rattlesnakes and
>skunks by hand for people when they got into thier houses
>for skunk I would grab the tail and hold it down as tight as posible
>out of probabley 50 or so only got spayed once

Once is all it takes. I had my dog spayed and haven't had to repeat the
procedure...

<running>

Hank
August 10th 03, 05:09 PM
"or so only got spayed once"


My condolences. Did it hurt much?

"john rutz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> ~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:
> >>how tall are these traps? if a skunk cant raise his tail he has
> >>difficulty spraying ( he still can but its hard for him )
> >> John Rutz
> >
> >
> > The solid ones were not very tall, cincular in shape in fact, so
the skunk
> > things its going into a tunnel perhaps? So it is true about the
tail? ~ jan
> >
> > See my ponds and filter design:
> > http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
> >
> > ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> > Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> > To e-mail see website
>
>
> --
> when i was a lot younger( and dumber) i used to catch rattlesnakes
and
> skunks by hand for people when they got into thier houses
> for skunk I would grab the tail and hold it down as tight as
posible
> out of probabley 50 or so only got spayed once
>
>
>
>
> John Rutz
> Z5 New Mexico
>
> Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
>
> see my pond at:
>
> http://www.fuerjefe.com
>

john rutz
August 10th 03, 05:58 PM
"or so only got spayed once"


My condolences. Did it hurt much?
--

not realy but it did cut down on my dating :-)
seems not many like that brand of Eau de cologhne



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

Hank
August 10th 03, 06:46 PM
After being spayed, I don't see any reason for dating.

"john rutz" > wrote in message
...
> "or so only got spayed once"
>
>
> My condolences. Did it hurt much?
> --
>
> not realy but it did cut down on my dating :-)
> seems not many like that brand of Eau de cologhne
>
>
>
> John Rutz
> Z5 New Mexico
>
> Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.
>
> see my pond at:
>
> http://www.fuerjefe.com
>

john rutz
August 10th 03, 08:27 PM
I get it now. It's another unusual paragraph with no r's.
--

LOL thats what happens when i start posting before i drink enough coffee

whats bad I never caught it till now :-)



John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it.

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

mad
August 11th 03, 10:16 PM
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> 50 or so only got spayed once

oh, john--this lends itself to a number of comments, but i will bite my
tongue! LOLOL
mad



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