Re: Converting FW tank to SW before moving?

[andy johnson]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:34:25 -0500, "Magnum"
> wrote:

>OK,
>
>I have been wanting to convert my FW tank to SW for some time, it has one
>catfish left that has lived for months with no pump running and no food. I
>thought the thing was dead and gone, till my nephew siad it was still alive.

I personally think you should get your attitude right concerning
caring for another living creature before you do anything else. FW or
SW is irrelevant at this point!

Andy


"There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
- (Calvin and Hobbes)

[Magnum]

Perhaps you missed the post. This was my mothers aquarium who recently
passed away. I am taking it over, I had no idea the fish was there.. I was
under the impression they were all dead.

You my friend can kiss my $$W%..



"andy johnson" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 17:34:25 -0500, "Magnum"
> > wrote:
>
> >OK,
> >
> >I have been wanting to convert my FW tank to SW for some time, it has one
> >catfish left that has lived for months with no pump running and no food.
I
> >thought the thing was dead and gone, till my nephew siad it was still
alive.
>
> I personally think you should get your attitude right concerning
> caring for another living creature before you do anything else. FW or
> SW is irrelevant at this point!
>
> Andy
>
>
> "There would be a lot more civility in this world if people
> didn't take that as an invitation to walk all over you"
> - (Calvin and Hobbes)

[Dinky]

"Magnum" > wrote in message
...
> OK,
>
> I just hate to start throwing more freshwater stuff at it if I know I am
> going to go SW.
>

I'd mothball the thing, and use the time between now and them to research
marine aquaria, and aquire the proper equip without haste. Moving a
functioning tank, particularily of that size, is a chore, and can result in
many problems that you can easily avoid by just waiting.

my 2 pennies.

billy

[Lone6Wolfpack]

I would start cycling it! If you like to move water and rocks, i think we
all do! i would start cycling to get some basics down, so when you do your
move, you can upgrade whater necessary, then by then you will be slightly
ahead, no wasted time. Time is money and time is not wasted oer here!.
Wolfhedd

"Magnum" > wrote in message
...
> OK,
>
> I have been wanting to convert my FW tank to SW for some time, it has one
> catfish left that has lived for months with no pump running and no food. I
> thought the thing was dead and gone, till my nephew siad it was still
alive.
>
> Anyway, I will give this fish to my brother and convert mine to a SW
setup.
>
> Here is my delima. I like to piddle with things and the aquarium would do
> nice. It was given to me before my mother died. It is around a 55 gallon
> setup, I can't remember the exact size so I will have to measure, I was
> thinking she said it was larger.
>
> Here is what I plan to do. I would love to clearn the tank and start
buying
> live rock a little at a time, probably add no fish.
>
> I plan on getting married around Christmas and our new house should be
built
> by then. So I would love to move the aquarium then to the new house and
> hopefully the cycle time would be lower. Any ideas? Or should I just wait
> before doing anything. Kinda hate to have it just sit there-:))
>
> I just hate to start throwing more freshwater stuff at it if I know I am
> going to go SW.
>
> Thanks
>
>

[Magnum]

Thanks for the info.

That was kinda my thinking. I don't see moving the aquarium as a problem.

My only concern was how to do it without upseting any living organisms that
may develop. Surely it has been done, so I am not the first.

I figure moving in one day and re-placing with same rock, sand and water. If
it does need to cycle again, it should be to harsh or long. Sicne everything
will be close.

Thanks, I also just found a 10gal aquarium hidden in a closet. Hmm. I wonder
what I can place in there as Sal****er-:))


"Lone6Wolfpack" > wrote in message
k.net...
> I would start cycling it! If you like to move water and rocks, i think we
> all do! i would start cycling to get some basics down, so when you do
your
> move, you can upgrade whater necessary, then by then you will be slightly
> ahead, no wasted time. Time is money and time is not wasted oer here!.
> Wolfhedd
>
> "Magnum" > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK,
> >
> > I have been wanting to convert my FW tank to SW for some time, it has
one
> > catfish left that has lived for months with no pump running and no food.
I
> > thought the thing was dead and gone, till my nephew siad it was still
> alive.
> >
> > Anyway, I will give this fish to my brother and convert mine to a SW
> setup.
> >
> > Here is my delima. I like to piddle with things and the aquarium would
do
> > nice. It was given to me before my mother died. It is around a 55
gallon
> > setup, I can't remember the exact size so I will have to measure, I was
> > thinking she said it was larger.
> >
> > Here is what I plan to do. I would love to clearn the tank and start
> buying
> > live rock a little at a time, probably add no fish.
> >
> > I plan on getting married around Christmas and our new house should be
> built
> > by then. So I would love to move the aquarium then to the new house and
> > hopefully the cycle time would be lower. Any ideas? Or should I just
wait
> > before doing anything. Kinda hate to have it just sit there-:))
> >
> > I just hate to start throwing more freshwater stuff at it if I know I am
> > going to go SW.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
>
>

[Teeb]

10 gallons make great quarantine tanks... especially if you've never done
sal****er before. Just as in freshwater tanks, things can go bad VERY fast
in smaller tanks. It's usually best to start with the biggest tank you can
get for your first one. You have a bit more time to correct water problems.
Also, with the exception of cycling, take everything you know about
freshwater tanks and toss it aside.. cycling is the only thing anywhere near
similar. I have kept freshwater tanks for many years.. since I was 9 years
old (not going to tell you how long THAT has been, lol.. but trust me...
it's a looong time...) I got into marine a year ago and it's been a bit of a
ride and not always smooth.. just be sure to ask questions first if you are
not sure of something.. it's always better to wait and see what someone with
experience has to say than just go ahead and do something and then find out
you shouldn't have done it for whatever the reason is.. This group and the
reef group are the best sources of information for a newbie.. everyone has
their own experiences to draw from.. and what works for some doesnt' always
work for others, but it gives you things to think about and you draw your
own conclusions and preferences. I will leave this off with a word of
warning... this hobby is EXTREMELY ADDICTIVE and should come with a warning
from the surgeon general, lol.

Teeb

"Magnum" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the info.
>
> That was kinda my thinking. I don't see moving the aquarium as a problem.
>
> My only concern was how to do it without upseting any living organisms
that
> may develop. Surely it has been done, so I am not the first.
>
> I figure moving in one day and re-placing with same rock, sand and water.
If
> it does need to cycle again, it should be to harsh or long. Sicne
everything
> will be close.
>
> Thanks, I also just found a 10gal aquarium hidden in a closet. Hmm. I
wonder
> what I can place in there as Sal****er-:))
>
>
> "Lone6Wolfpack" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > I would start cycling it! If you like to move water and rocks, i think
we
> > all do! i would start cycling to get some basics down, so when you do
> your
> > move, you can upgrade whater necessary, then by then you will be
slightly
> > ahead, no wasted time. Time is money and time is not wasted oer here!.
> > Wolfhedd
> >
> > "Magnum" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > OK,
> > >
> > > I have been wanting to convert my FW tank to SW for some time, it has
> one
> > > catfish left that has lived for months with no pump running and no
food.
> I
> > > thought the thing was dead and gone, till my nephew siad it was still
> > alive.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I will give this fish to my brother and convert mine to a SW
> > setup.
> > >
> > > Here is my delima. I like to piddle with things and the aquarium would
> do
> > > nice. It was given to me before my mother died. It is around a 55
> gallon
> > > setup, I can't remember the exact size so I will have to measure, I
was
> > > thinking she said it was larger.
> > >
> > > Here is what I plan to do. I would love to clearn the tank and start
> > buying
> > > live rock a little at a time, probably add no fish.
> > >
> > > I plan on getting married around Christmas and our new house should be
> > built
> > > by then. So I would love to move the aquarium then to the new house
and
> > > hopefully the cycle time would be lower. Any ideas? Or should I just
> wait
> > > before doing anything. Kinda hate to have it just sit there-:))
> > >
> > > I just hate to start throwing more freshwater stuff at it if I know I
am
> > > going to go SW.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Mat Recardo]

In your experience (or that of the rest of the group) for a small tank with
a single fish (lionfish) would you say you do actually need all that im
reading about to maintain it.

Reverse Osmosis filter for the kitchen sink and Protein skimmer look quite
large bits of kit and im wondering if this can be scaled down for the
smaller tank?

mat





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[wolfhedd]

back to your original, its wolfhedd again, i hope your not talking about
using that 10 gallon when you move, if your using that to cycle, well that
will get something going, but would start off with atleast a 55-60 gal
system, if not now, then when you move your stuff. wolfhedd. ps. did ya
move yet?

"Teeb" > wrote in message
...
> How small are you talking about?? Lionfish get huge unless you're talking
> dwarf but even then they need a decent sized tank. RO isn't always
> *necessary* but sometimes if you have a really sucky water supply you kind
> of need it. I should probably have one but it's just not in the logistics
> for now.. in my personal opinion go for skimmer first. You need to
maintain
> water quality no matter what you have in the tank. Reef tanks need more
> *work* than just a fish only tank or fish with live rock, but they all
> require routine maintenance to keep optimal conditions.
>
> Teeb
>
> "Mat Recardo" > wrote in message
> ...
> > In your experience (or that of the rest of the group) for a small tank
> with
> > a single fish (lionfish) would you say you do actually need all that im
> > reading about to maintain it.
> >
> > Reverse Osmosis filter for the kitchen sink and Protein skimmer look
quite
> > large bits of kit and im wondering if this can be scaled down for the
> > smaller tank?
> >
> > mat
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Magnum]

No haven't moved yet, probably Christmas-:))

The 10gal turned out to be a 5 gal after I finaly drug it out from behind
everything -:((

I used it to hold the catfish till my nephew found it a new home.

I have my 50gal setup cycled and now have about 28lbs of live rock 2
damsles, hermit crabs and snails. That's about all I will add until I move.

Looks like I will have to actually move the tank twice now. Since I will be
moving twice, unless I can show my dad how to feed the fish and I can drop
by every 3 or 4 days. He could probably do that.

I think you were correct, I have learned a lot doing this while I am
waiting, the tank looked good and impressed everybody until I found out I
had a electrical socket problem and the PH went out while I was on vacation.
Added a skimmer and everything purked up again -:))


Thanks for the tips.



"wolfhedd" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> back to your original, its wolfhedd again, i hope your not talking about
> using that 10 gallon when you move, if your using that to cycle, well that
> will get something going, but would start off with atleast a 55-60 gal
> system, if not now, then when you move your stuff. wolfhedd. ps. did ya
> move yet?
>
> "Teeb" > wrote in message
> ...
> > How small are you talking about?? Lionfish get huge unless you're
talking
> > dwarf but even then they need a decent sized tank. RO isn't always
> > *necessary* but sometimes if you have a really sucky water supply you
kind
> > of need it. I should probably have one but it's just not in the
logistics
> > for now.. in my personal opinion go for skimmer first. You need to
> maintain
> > water quality no matter what you have in the tank. Reef tanks need more
> > *work* than just a fish only tank or fish with live rock, but they all
> > require routine maintenance to keep optimal conditions.
> >
> > Teeb
> >
> > "Mat Recardo" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In your experience (or that of the rest of the group) for a small tank
> > with
> > > a single fish (lionfish) would you say you do actually need all that
im
> > > reading about to maintain it.
> > >
> > > Reverse Osmosis filter for the kitchen sink and Protein skimmer look
> quite
> > > large bits of kit and im wondering if this can be scaled down for the
> > > smaller tank?
> > >
> > > mat
> > >
> > >
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