How does water flow?

[BenignVanilla]

Some of you remember my VF fiasco, and that much of the liner is showing due
to my error in judgment on the grade of the land that the VF is built in. I
am contemplating a solution to hide this liner, and need some assistance.

Currently my pump sits in my VF and pumps TO my pond. Water then gravity
feeds via a bottom drain back TO the VF. The liner is mostly visible on the
far end (away from gravity feed) of the VF. I am contemplating, building a
wall using sandbags in the VF. I then will put the pump into the end with
the feed, and pump UP to the new "pond" created by the wall. I then plan to
let the water run back through the current send pipe back to the main pond,
via gravity. I think I may need a valve here to control the flow.

My theory here is that I can pump the water up faster then I let it drain
into the pond, thereby raising the level of the water. I figure I can put
some nice big rocks over the sandbags and let the overflow pour back into
the lower VF, adding some interest and hiding the sandbag wall.

Any thoughts?

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BenignVanilla
Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond

[john rutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> Some of you remember my VF fiasco, and that much of the liner is showing due
> to my error in judgment on the grade of the land that the VF is built in. I
> am contemplating a solution to hide this liner, and need some assistance.
>
>
> My theory here is that I can pump the water up faster then I let it drain
> into the pond, thereby raising the level of the water. I figure I can put
> some nice big rocks over the sandbags and let the overflow pour back into
> the lower VF, adding some interest and hiding the sandbag wall.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
> sounds like it should work ok how hi are you trying to go, my memory fails here,
if you pack em tight enough you can get pretty high





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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[BenignVanilla]

"john rutz" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> BenignVanilla wrote:
> > Some of you remember my VF fiasco, and that much of the liner is showing
due
> > to my error in judgment on the grade of the land that the VF is built
in. I
> > am contemplating a solution to hide this liner, and need some
assistance.
> >
> >
> > My theory here is that I can pump the water up faster then I let it
drain
> > into the pond, thereby raising the level of the water. I figure I can
put
> > some nice big rocks over the sandbags and let the overflow pour back
into
> > the lower VF, adding some interest and hiding the sandbag wall.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > --
> > BenignVanilla
> > Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
> >
> >
> > sounds like it should work ok how hi are you trying to go, my memory
fails here,
> if you pack em tight enough you can get pretty high

So you think this can work?

My primary areas of concern are:

1. Can I pump water uphill enough to fill a "pond" above the water line of
my reservoir pond?
2. Can I control the flow back to the reservoir with a valve? I have 4''
plumbing that is currently stopped down to 1'' to handle the pump output.

BV.

[john rutz]

BenignVanilla wrote:
> "john rutz" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>
>>BenignVanilla wrote:
>>
>
> So you think this can work?
>
> My primary areas of concern are:
>
> 1. Can I pump water uphill enough to fill a "pond" above the water line of
> my reservoir pond?
> 2. Can I control the flow back to the reservoir with a valve? I have 4''
> plumbing that is currently stopped down to 1'' to handle the pump output.
>
> BV.
>
>
1 yes definitly even without the wall you can get up a half in or so
higher ( thats about what mine does ) and im only restreicting with rock
that are around 1/4 in apart

2 ok i give I cant comprhend what you are doing here ;-) back from
where? if you mean back from the VF it should be a tad higer in the hi
pond just from the pump output the water will always rut to the lower
direction or to the VF and then to the main pond

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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[john rutz]

Bob in PA wrote:
>>How does water flow?
>
>
> Gonna hazard a guess and say downhill.
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.
>


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I used to have a link to a gizmo that caused water to flow uphill,
it was an art project and it did work




John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[Hank]

As long as the overflow can return to the other side of the wall you
can go as high as the max. head on your pump. The problem being when
you turn off the pump all ponds will seek the same level and the water
will go through the sand bag wall and overflow the lower pond. (there
is a bright side, the sandbags will filter out the clay) ;-}

http://community.webshots.com/user/hankpage1

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> Some of you remember my VF fiasco, and that much of the liner is
showing due
> to my error in judgment on the grade of the land that the VF is
built in. I
> am contemplating a solution to hide this liner, and need some
assistance.
>
> Currently my pump sits in my VF and pumps TO my pond. Water then
gravity
> feeds via a bottom drain back TO the VF. The liner is mostly visible
on the
> far end (away from gravity feed) of the VF. I am contemplating,
building a
> wall using sandbags in the VF. I then will put the pump into the end
with
> the feed, and pump UP to the new "pond" created by the wall. I then
plan to
> let the water run back through the current send pipe back to the
main pond,
> via gravity. I think I may need a valve here to control the flow.
>
> My theory here is that I can pump the water up faster then I let it
drain
> into the pond, thereby raising the level of the water. I figure I
can put
> some nice big rocks over the sandbags and let the overflow pour back
into
> the lower VF, adding some interest and hiding the sandbag wall.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> Pond Site: www.darofamily.com/jeff/links/mypond
>
>
>