Re: Need filtration system for BIG pond - help!

[RichToyBox]

Several others will give info on filter systems. I have a vortex, going to
a bead filter, going to an upflow gravel filter filled with plants. If you
are doing a koi pond, I would highly recommend going deeper, installing a
bottom drain, and a skimmer. 2 feet deep is pretty shallow for koi. My big
pond is about 3.5 feet deep, and some of the koi ponds that I have seen are
8 or more feet deep.
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"Jleag" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I am the proud owner of a 100 gallon pond which I have had for 10 years. I
> love it and now I want to expand to a larger pond. I am building a 15' x
15' x
> 2' pond and need a new filtration system. Do any of you nice people
reading
> this have experience in this area. I am thinking about a gravity fed
filtration
> system to deal with the koi I would like to have in the pond. Any
> thoughts you might have would be very appreciated! Thanks in advance for
your
> help -
> Best wishes and happy ponding!! Lillie :)
>
>

[john rutz]

here are some do it yourself filters on these websites

http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
http://www.fuerjefe.com
http://www.skippysstuff.com/

for koi richtoybox is right about depth, could you go longer also?
Koi need a lot of room


RichToyBox wrote:
> Several others will give info on filter systems. I have a vortex, going to
> a bead filter, going to an upflow gravel filter filled with plants. If you
> are doing a koi pond, I would highly recommend going deeper, installing a
> bottom drain, and a skimmer. 2 feet deep is pretty shallow for koi. My big
> pond is about 3.5 feet deep, and some of the koi ponds that I have seen are
> 8 or more feet deep.


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John Rutz
Z5 New Mexico

never miss a good oportunity to shut up

see my pond at:

http://www.fuerjefe.com

[Lee Brouillet]

Where do you live, Lillie? Two feet may not be deep enough to over-winter
your fish. If you're doing koi (as the others said), you "should" have at
least 3', and more is better. If you live in an intemperate area - basically
any place that has "winter", 2' will probably give you fishsickles before
Spring. A pond 15 x 15 x 2 = 3532 gallons of water and a liner requirement
of 21' x 21' (an awkward size). A pond 12 x 12 x 3 = 3391 gallons of water,
with a liner requirement of 18 x 18' (a 20' square piece of liner would work
nicely). Or a 12' x 12' x 4' = 4522 gallons with the same 20' square liner.
Filtration is SUBjective as well as OBjective. Do you want to buy or
build???

Lee

"Jleag" > wrote in message
...
> Hi,
>
> I am the proud owner of a 100 gallon pond which I have had for 10 years. I
> love it and now I want to expand to a larger pond. I am building a 15' x
15' x
> 2' pond and need a new filtration system. Do any of you nice people
reading
> this have experience in this area. I am thinking about a gravity fed
filtration
> system to deal with the koi I would like to have in the pond. Any
> thoughts you might have would be very appreciated! Thanks in advance for
your
> help -
> Best wishes and happy ponding!! Lillie :)
>
>

[Lee Brouillet]

Well, it's not so much that they're primadonnas as much as they get BIG.
Your goldies achieve what? maybe 10"? That's what a year old koi is. And
they keep growing. I have some that are 24-26" long and still growing. Aside
from overwintering, they need the room to swim and grow. Who wants fat
fish??? They need the exercise area <G>!

Lee

"Jleag" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks Lee! I am in NJ where winter is a factor. I am building this pond
> myself. And thanks to all you pond enthusiasts out there who have passed
on
> your fast knowledge. You are all just the best! By the way, I kept large
> goldfish for 10 years in a 100 gallon pond outside (winter and everything)
only
> 18" deep at its lowest point, and they lived through it all. Those Koi
must be
> the premadonnas of the fish world! Thanks again, I appreciate the help!
> Lillie :)

[Kevin Carbis]

Beware of Predators! I don't know much about New Jersey but a 2' Koi
pond out here in CA would amount to nothing more than a Seafood buffet
for Racoons. A 4' depth should provide safety from both Racoons and
Herons.

Sad story; recently in the market for a new home. Walked through a
"For Sale by Owner" home in which the owner had built a concrete pond
about 18"-24" deep. She was frustrated because she had repeatedly
stocked it with goldfish, Shubunkins and baby Koi only to find them
all missing the next day.