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K30a
August 8th 03, 12:01 AM
Dear Daughter is a closet HGTV addict, just like her Mom, Aunt and Grandmother.
She spotted an ad today and we looked it up online under TV Specials on the
HGTV site. www.hgtv.com
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HGTV Special Presentation
Episode HBWG-S
AIR TIMES:
August 09, 2003 5:00 PM EST
Backyard Water Gardens
Host Gary Alan and guest experts show how to create and build a variety of
water features that will fit many landscapes. Whether it's a pond or a
waterfall, a patio fountain or a tabletop fountain, these dramatic and
interesting projects are affordable in time and effort.
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k30a
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BenignVanilla
August 8th 03, 02:50 PM
"K30a" > wrote in message
...
>
> Dear Daughter is a closet HGTV addict, just like her Mom, Aunt and
Grandmother.
> She spotted an ad today and we looked it up online under TV Specials on
the
> HGTV site. www.hgtv.com
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~
> HGTV Special Presentation
> Episode HBWG-S
> AIR TIMES:
> August 09, 2003 5:00 PM EST
> Backyard Water Gardens
> Host Gary Alan and guest experts show how to create and build a variety of
> water features that will fit many landscapes. Whether it's a pond or a
> waterfall, a patio fountain or a tabletop fountain, these dramatic and
> interesting projects are affordable in time and effort.
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~

Added it to Tivo...thanks.

BV.

Neil Law
August 8th 03, 05:36 PM
On 07 Aug 2003 23:01:14 GMT, (K30a) wrote:

>
>HGTV Special Presentation
>Episode HBWG-S
>AIR TIMES:
>August 09, 2003 5:00 PM EST
>Backyard Water Gardens

As usual, seems to be only available in the US at the moment. Guess HGTV.ca will
show it in the fall :-<

K30a
August 8th 03, 06:04 PM
Neil wrote >> Guess HGTV.ca will
show it in the fall :-<<<

Wonder why they do that?
There are lots of excellent
Canadian produced shows on HGTV.
Must be about money. It's always
about money.




k30a
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August 9th 03, 10:55 PM
yeah. once again they found a bunch of idiots to film ... in the business of
selling the ponds and plants and to hell with the fish, putting pond water into the
bag, no aeration at al, no 20 gallons per gf and 100 gallons per koi. not to mention
those ponds are really expensive. the first one going to be silted up and rocks on
the bottom going to make it hell to clean. that little corner pond will be trashed
in a week when the raccoons find it. bleeeeech. Ingrid



>August 09, 2003 5:00 PM EST
>Backyard Water Gardens
>Host Gary Alan and guest experts show how to create and build a variety of
>water features that will fit many landscapes. Whether it's a pond or a
>waterfall, a patio fountain or a tabletop fountain, these dramatic and
>interesting projects are affordable in time and effort.


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Nedra
August 9th 03, 11:05 PM
I have to agree Ingrid! Was not a good program for pond
newbies.

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> wrote in message
...
> yeah. once again they found a bunch of idiots to film ... in the
business of
> selling the ponds and plants and to hell with the fish, putting pond water
into the
> bag, no aeration at al, no 20 gallons per gf and 100 gallons per koi. not
to mention
> those ponds are really expensive. the first one going to be silted up and
rocks on
> the bottom going to make it hell to clean. that little corner pond will
be trashed
> in a week when the raccoons find it. bleeeeech. Ingrid
>
>
>
> >August 09, 2003 5:00 PM EST
> >Backyard Water Gardens
> >Host Gary Alan and guest experts show how to create and build a variety
of
> >water features that will fit many landscapes. Whether it's a pond or a
> >waterfall, a patio fountain or a tabletop fountain, these dramatic and
> >interesting projects are affordable in time and effort.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>

K30a
August 9th 03, 11:12 PM
You beat me to it, Ingrid!

I wanted them to explain WHY a filter is needed.
They kept saying 'to filter the water' I think most people would think 'it
filters dirt, dust, leaves out of the water' like a pool filter.
And the cleaning involved in the rock bottomed pond. I wondered about some of
the landscaping with mulch - is that sloping into the pond? What about the
first good rain?
Also tossing in water hyacinth - they will shade the fish (and eat the dog and
cat and move you out of your home and could be illegal in your state!)

k30a
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~ jan JJsPond.us
August 15th 03, 07:40 AM
I guess I have to play devil's advocate here. The whole idea of a show like
this is to suck a newbie in, **SEE HOW EASY THIS CAN BE DONE!!**
That means more ponders, more ponders posting here needing help, more
members for pond/koi clubs, etc. etc., this afterall IS an ADDICTION and
misery loves company, oh.... I'm.... so pond-Elated today. ;o)

Personally I liked the two circle pond. The pH had to be off the chart
though since they didn't mention an acid wash or soak for that mortar. The
corner pond was cute, I just wonder if all that red brick inside with the
water would affect the water quality, pH or something? Anything that hides
the liner is a good thing, imo, if it doesn't affect the water quality.
~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
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Karen Mullen
August 16th 03, 05:36 AM
In article >, "BenignVanilla"
> writes:

>I guess, but I'd rather they learn slowly and carefully, otherwise instead
>of new posts with great pictures, we get 'All my fish are dead, what
>happened?'.
>

I agree with BV, our little pond club got a new member. 40 gallon pond tub
with plants, no filter 9 goldfish and 2 koi and her water won't clear. So she
dumps all the water, scrubs the tub CLEAN and puts the fish back only to do it
again in a week and can't understand what's wrong. Then to top it all off, she
put an algae eater in and wondered why it died. They knew nothing of Ph, Kh,
or water qualityor the different types of filters and what they do. Obviously
didn't do their homework first. Probably watched a show like HGTV and thought
this is simple and easy, let's do it! Oh well, they are learning now.

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention

K30a
August 16th 03, 06:11 AM
Karen wrote >>scrubs the tub CLEAN...Then to top it all off, she
put an algae eater in and wondered why it died. <<

Oh my gawd, you'd have to laugh or you'd cry!


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