Re: Apology Accepted

[Wilson]

I must have missed what this is all about...damn. :)

"Anne Lurie" > wrote in message
m...
> I accept your apology, Ghislain.
>
> One of the basic concepts of dealing with newsgroups is to read posts on a
> particular newsgroup to get an idea of the "flavor" of a newsgroup.
>
> Since you are new to newsgroups, you might want to check out this page on
> "netiquette" (newsgroup & email etiquette):
> http://www.imagescape.com/helpweb/news/newsnet.html.
>
> Also, many newsgroups have websites for FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions).
> Here's the FAQ for rec.ponds:
> http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
>
> Anne Lurie
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> "Ghislain" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I'm sorry about this.You are all correct for getting upset with me.You
are
> > right Newgroups is not used for advertizing.I am new at this sort of
> thing.I
> > enjoy the imformation and ideas and questions that you good people
> > contribute.I do find that the remarks that were given about me very
> > interesting and it also made me realize how sincere that everyone are
> about
> > the topic.There is alot of interest in the pond topics and that is a
good
> > thing
> > Once again please accept my APOLOGY
> > Sincerly Ghislain
>
>
>

[dkat]

Me too (confused). We have at least 2 people in here that run a business
and even though they do not put up obnoxious adds, they do have a link to
their site where they sell fish and plant related "stuff" and they have had
posts where it is clear that they do trade in the business.

I'm curious what was so out of line that it got someone slapped down for
it....


"Wilson" > wrote in message
...
> I must have missed what this is all about...damn. :)
>
> "Anne Lurie" > wrote in message
> m...
> > I accept your apology, Ghislain.
> >
> > One of the basic concepts of dealing with newsgroups is to read posts on
a
> > particular newsgroup to get an idea of the "flavor" of a newsgroup.
> >
> > Since you are new to newsgroups, you might want to check out this page
on
> > "netiquette" (newsgroup & email etiquette):
> > http://www.imagescape.com/helpweb/news/newsnet.html.
> >
> > Also, many newsgroups have websites for FAQ (Frequently Asked
Questions).
> > Here's the FAQ for rec.ponds:
> > http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
> >
> > Anne Lurie
> > Raleigh, NC
> >
> >
> > "Ghislain" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I'm sorry about this.You are all correct for getting upset with me.You
> are
> > > right Newgroups is not used for advertizing.I am new at this sort of
> > thing.I
> > > enjoy the imformation and ideas and questions that you good people
> > > contribute.I do find that the remarks that were given about me very
> > > interesting and it also made me realize how sincere that everyone are
> > about
> > > the topic.There is alot of interest in the pond topics and that is a
> good
> > > thing
> > > Once again please accept my APOLOGY
> > > Sincerly Ghislain
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[zookeeper]

dkat wrote:
> Me too (confused). We have at least 2 people in here that run a business
> and even though they do not put up obnoxious adds, they do have a link to
> their site where they sell fish and plant related "stuff" and they have had
> posts where it is clear that they do trade in the business.
>
> I'm curious what was so out of line that it got someone slapped down for
> it....
>
>
> "Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>I must have missed what this is all about...damn. :)

The reaction was in proportion to the posts: Ghislain posted that he had
filters for sale in response to several other posts; didn't actually
answer the questions posed but offered opportunity for ponders to spend
money on his filters. He also posted three separate posts that were pure
advertising. It was pointed out that this is usually frowned on in
newsgroups, but that if he wanted to post a link to a web site or
include it in his signature, that would be more appropriate. He
responded by saying that Jan's post about baby fantails and her
signature including a link to her web site was "advertising." If
curious, just Google groups for Ghislain.
--
Zk
3500gal pond, 13 pond piggies
Oregon, USDA Zone 7

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:16:34 -0700, zookeeper > wrote:

>curious, just Google groups for Ghislain.

Good answer! :o) ~ jan

See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[dkat]

> >curious, just Google groups for Ghislain.

Tried that and it was REALLY ugly.... hundreds of items... eventually
tracked original down and I still don't get it. It is fairly easy to post
to the wrong thread and even if it was not an accident I had no problem with
the link. In fact, I liked it.

It just seems that folks are becoming more and more edgy and less and less
tolerant over the past 2.5 years. I'm probably becoming over-sensitized to
that. It seemed like an opportunity to say "cut the guy some slack and just
let it go". I've always had fast internet connections and have no problem
blocking either posters or threads so what people post has never been an
issue with me. Mostly I would just like to see people lighten up a bit. As
I said, I just don't get it. Then again I'm still puzzled about why my
response to a post where I said that "liberal" was not a dirty word raised
such a ruckus.

DK

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 11:16:34 -0700, zookeeper >
wrote:
>
> >curious, just Google groups for Ghislain.
>
> Good answer! :o) ~ jan
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[dkat]

Jeez I spend a lot of time saying oops! (what's that I hear about violins on
TV).... That was Jan's web site that I thought was so nice.... (which I
should have known given that I've been there often enough)... The post I
eventually found in reference to the GOOGLE search I did oddly had her link
in it. After reading further into the posting I now get that the complaint
was that rather THAN give a LINK he posted an advertisement. I use to be
able to do multiple things at the same time.... I guess when the eyesight
started going downhill so did that parallel processing....

I still stand by my "lighten up" request though. It is healthier for us
all. DK


"dkat" > wrote in message
.net...
> Me too (confused). We have at least 2 people in here that run a business
> and even though they do not put up obnoxious adds, they do have a link to
> their site where they sell fish and plant related "stuff" and they have
had
> posts where it is clear that they do trade in the business.
>
> I'm curious what was so out of line that it got someone slapped down for
> it....
>
>
> "Wilson" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I must have missed what this is all about...damn. :)
> >
> > "Anne Lurie" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > I accept your apology, Ghislain.
> > >
> > > One of the basic concepts of dealing with newsgroups is to read posts
on
> a
> > > particular newsgroup to get an idea of the "flavor" of a newsgroup.
> > >
> > > Since you are new to newsgroups, you might want to check out this page
> on
> > > "netiquette" (newsgroup & email etiquette):
> > > http://www.imagescape.com/helpweb/news/newsnet.html.
> > >
> > > Also, many newsgroups have websites for FAQ (Frequently Asked
> Questions).
> > > Here's the FAQ for rec.ponds:
> > > http://www.geocities.com/justinm090/faq.html
> > >
> > > Anne Lurie
> > > Raleigh, NC
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ghislain" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I'm sorry about this.You are all correct for getting upset with
me.You
> > are
> > > > right Newgroups is not used for advertizing.I am new at this sort of
> > > thing.I
> > > > enjoy the imformation and ideas and questions that you good people
> > > > contribute.I do find that the remarks that were given about me very
> > > > interesting and it also made me realize how sincere that everyone
are
> > > about
> > > > the topic.There is alot of interest in the pond topics and that is a
> > good
> > > > thing
> > > > Once again please accept my APOLOGY
> > > > Sincerly Ghislain
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Yes, in your "hey, it's not my fault, it's the internet's" you said you
screwed up, you should have stopped there, but you ended with the parting
shot of telling others to lighten up. When I suggested you consider taking
your own advice, you continued on with the long tirade below? And I've got
a wild hair?

Let's see; gey gezunterhait = good-bye in yiddish, wonder if it also means
I've been killfiled? I hope so. Sheesh. ~ jan

>On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:54:56 GMT, "dkat" > wrote:

>I'm getting just the days postings from my server - if I'm lucky I get
>yesterdays. Given I can only read the group when I have a slow period at
>work I miss a lot of what has been said. After I following zookeepers
>instructions and trying google I still didn't get it. I cannot read the
>threads in the in google and make sense of them (as became clear when I
>thought your link was from the original poster). I have always thought of
>this newsroom as a very pleasant place to be and was surprised by what I
>read and wanted to know what it was about.
>
>I'm not sure what lecturing you are referring to given that the post you are
>responding to actually states that I had screwed up. I guess it is all a
>matter of how you read things... to me you sound like you have a hair up
>your back end for no apparent reason... to you I sound like I'm lecturing...
>Whatever.... gey gezunterhait
>DK
>
>> >I still stand by my "lighten up" request though. It is healthier for us
>> >all. DK
>>
>> No one likes a lecture, unless they've paid to attend. ;o) We'd all
>> lightened up on Ghislain prior to, so perhaps now you need to take your own
>> advice? :o) ~ jan


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[D Kat]

I really, really don't get what you are talking about. You did not explain
how it was that I was giving a lecture. When it felt like I was getting
irritated response I tried to explain my confusion and my reaction.

I have said repeatedly that I have a problem (I refer to it as the Violins
on TV - I am of course assuming you are old enough to get that reference) of
getting things wrong. Basically I have said that I'm confused on this issue
please help. I did say clearly that it was probably the case that I am
the one that is over-sensitive on the issue of people seeming mean these
days.

I thought I made it clear that I was unable to follow what was going on
either locally or through google (it seemed at the time slightly intolerant
to tell me that if I wanted information on this to go to google and then
have you chime in with an unnecessary cheer). Apparently I'm not
sufficiently articulate if you continue to think I'm trying to pick a fight
and it sure seems that this is what you are doing. I don't know why you
would think that I would want to kill file you. I do kill file people who
are offensive beyond tolerance. So far you have only seemed aggressive.

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> Yes, in your "hey, it's not my fault, it's the internet's" you said you
> screwed up, you should have stopped there, but you ended with the parting
> shot of telling others to lighten up. When I suggested you consider taking
> your own advice, you continued on with the long tirade below? And I've got
> a wild hair?
>
> Let's see; gey gezunterhait = good-bye in yiddish, wonder if it also means
> I've been killfiled? I hope so. Sheesh. ~ jan
>
> >On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:54:56 GMT, "dkat" > wrote:
>
> >I'm getting just the days postings from my server - if I'm lucky I get
> >yesterdays. Given I can only read the group when I have a slow period at
> >work I miss a lot of what has been said. After I following zookeepers
> >instructions and trying google I still didn't get it. I cannot read the
> >threads in the in google and make sense of them (as became clear when I
> >thought your link was from the original poster). I have always thought
of
> >this newsroom as a very pleasant place to be and was surprised by what I
> >read and wanted to know what it was about.
> >
> >I'm not sure what lecturing you are referring to given that the post you
are
> >responding to actually states that I had screwed up. I guess it is all
a
> >matter of how you read things... to me you sound like you have a hair up
> >your back end for no apparent reason... to you I sound like I'm
lecturing...
> >Whatever.... gey gezunterhait
> >DK
> >
> >> >I still stand by my "lighten up" request though. It is healthier for
us
> >> >all. DK
> >>
> >> No one likes a lecture, unless they've paid to attend. ;o) We'd all
> >> lightened up on Ghislain prior to, so perhaps now you need to take your
own
> >> advice? :o) ~ jan
>
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[D Kat]

I meant to thank you for the response and somehow neglected to.... I am so
getting senile (not legitimately able to make that claim for another 5
years). DK

"zookeeper" > wrote in message
...
> dkat wrote:
> > Me too (confused). We have at least 2 people in here that run a
business
> > and even though they do not put up obnoxious adds, they do have a link
to
> > their site where they sell fish and plant related "stuff" and they have
had
> > posts where it is clear that they do trade in the business.
> >
> > I'm curious what was so out of line that it got someone slapped down for
> > it....
> >
> >
> > "Wilson" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>I must have missed what this is all about...damn. :)
>
> The reaction was in proportion to the posts: Ghislain posted that he had
> filters for sale in response to several other posts; didn't actually
> answer the questions posed but offered opportunity for ponders to spend
> money on his filters. He also posted three separate posts that were pure
> advertising. It was pointed out that this is usually frowned on in
> newsgroups, but that if he wanted to post a link to a web site or
> include it in his signature, that would be more appropriate. He
> responded by saying that Jan's post about baby fantails and her
> signature including a link to her web site was "advertising." If
> curious, just Google groups for Ghislain.
> --
> Zk
> 3500gal pond, 13 pond piggies
> Oregon, USDA Zone 7
>

[dkat]

What in the world is derogatory about the term "lighten up"? It certainly
wasn't meant to be, which is why I added all of the extra to try to explain
what it was part of. I really, really dislike language. You need dozens of
emos to get the right meaning.

And yes I did misinterpret your Cheers. The way it was cut and pasted it
felt like a blowoff.... note felt... subjective not objective which is what
I was trying to get across earlier when I said the way we were interpreting
what was being said was a problem.

Gey gezuntgeheit is Yiddish (also German)- meaning go in good health but
that isn't enough... it is hard to translate.... kinda means we have done
enough of this (which we apparently hadn't if we were both still
misinterpreting each other). DK


"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> > "D Kat" continues:
> >(it seemed at the time slightly intolerant
> >to tell me that if I wanted information on this to go to google and then
> >have you chime in with an unnecessary cheer).
>
> It wasn't a cheer directed at you. It was a good answer, imo, for anyone
> who might be wondering what is going on without it being all dredged up
> again and explained. Especially for an OT thread.
>
> >Apparently I'm not sufficiently articulate if you continue to think I'm
trying to pick a fight
> >and it sure seems that this is what you are doing.
>
> I never would have gotten into this if the degatory comment "to lighten
up"
> hadn't been said.
>
> I wouldn't have continued the next time, if there hadn't been a personal
> attack saying, *I must have a wild hair.... *
>
> So who wanted to start a fight? Not me. I just don't like to be told what
> to do, by someone who has no power over me, nor will I tolerate an attack
> on my person. Note, I only asked you to take your own advice, and wondered
> if what you thought was my problem was really yours. Don't sling mud and
> expect not to get it back at ya. ~ jan
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[Sully]

For crying out loud you two, now a lot of people are "getting a hair
up" over your off topic duel. So "lighten up" or take it off line
please. That's why they made email, so two people can **** on each
other's feet and not get everyone else wet.
Sully

dkat wrote:
> What in the world is derogatory about the term "lighten up"? It certainly
> wasn't meant to be, which is why I added all of the extra to try to explain
> what it was part of. I really, really dislike language. You need dozens of
> emos to get the right meaning.
>
> And yes I did misinterpret your Cheers. The way it was cut and pasted it
> felt like a blowoff.... note felt... subjective not objective which is what
> I was trying to get across earlier when I said the way we were interpreting
> what was being said was a problem.
>
> Gey gezuntgeheit is Yiddish (also German)- meaning go in good health but
> that isn't enough... it is hard to translate.... kinda means we have done
> enough of this (which we apparently hadn't if we were both still
> misinterpreting each other). DK
>
>
> "~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> s.com...
>
>>>"D Kat" continues:
>>>(it seemed at the time slightly intolerant
>>>to tell me that if I wanted information on this to go to google and then
>>>have you chime in with an unnecessary cheer).
>>
>>It wasn't a cheer directed at you. It was a good answer, imo, for anyone
>>who might be wondering what is going on without it being all dredged up
>>again and explained. Especially for an OT thread.
>>
>>
>>>Apparently I'm not sufficiently articulate if you continue to think I'm
>
> trying to pick a fight
>
>>>and it sure seems that this is what you are doing.
>>
>>I never would have gotten into this if the degatory comment "to lighten
>
> up"
>
>>hadn't been said.
>>
>>I wouldn't have continued the next time, if there hadn't been a personal
>>attack saying, *I must have a wild hair.... *
>>
>>So who wanted to start a fight? Not me. I just don't like to be told what
>>to do, by someone who has no power over me, nor will I tolerate an attack
>>on my person. Note, I only asked you to take your own advice, and wondered
>>if what you thought was my problem was really yours. Don't sling mud and
>>expect not to get it back at ya. ~ jan
>>
>>See my ponds and filter design:
>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website
>
>
>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Poor Sully, feeling left out? You should have left it alone too, rather
than being a self-appointed spokesperson for "a lot of people".

My apologies to the group, and a thank you for letting Dkat & I carry on
without taking sides. ~ jan

>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:46:30 -0500, Sully > wrote:

>For crying out loud you two, now a lot of people are "getting a hair
>up" over your off topic duel. So "lighten up" or take it off line
>please. That's why they made email, so two people can **** on each
>other's feet and not get everyone else wet.
>Sully
>
>dkat wrote:
>> What in the world is derogatory about the term "lighten up"? It certainly
>> wasn't meant to be, which is why I added all of the extra to try to explain
>> what it was part of. I really, really dislike language. You need dozens of
>> emos to get the right meaning.
>>
>> And yes I did misinterpret your Cheers. The way it was cut and pasted it
>> felt like a blowoff.... note felt... subjective not objective which is what
>> I was trying to get across earlier when I said the way we were interpreting
>> what was being said was a problem.
>>
>> Gey gezuntgeheit is Yiddish (also German)- meaning go in good health but
>> that isn't enough... it is hard to translate.... kinda means we have done
>> enough of this (which we apparently hadn't if we were both still
>> misinterpreting each other). DK
>>
>>
>> "~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
>> s.com...
>>
>>>>"D Kat" continues:
>>>>(it seemed at the time slightly intolerant
>>>>to tell me that if I wanted information on this to go to google and then
>>>>have you chime in with an unnecessary cheer).
>>>
>>>It wasn't a cheer directed at you. It was a good answer, imo, for anyone
>>>who might be wondering what is going on without it being all dredged up
>>>again and explained. Especially for an OT thread.
>>>
>>>
>>>>Apparently I'm not sufficiently articulate if you continue to think I'm
>>
>> trying to pick a fight
>>
>>>>and it sure seems that this is what you are doing.
>>>
>>>I never would have gotten into this if the degatory comment "to lighten
>>
>> up"
>>
>>>hadn't been said.
>>>
>>>I wouldn't have continued the next time, if there hadn't been a personal
>>>attack saying, *I must have a wild hair.... *
>>>
>>>So who wanted to start a fight? Not me. I just don't like to be told what
>>>to do, by someone who has no power over me, nor will I tolerate an attack
>>>on my person. Note, I only asked you to take your own advice, and wondered
>>>if what you thought was my problem was really yours. Don't sling mud and
>>>expect not to get it back at ya. ~ jan
>>>
>>>See my ponds and filter design:
>>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>>
>>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>>> To e-mail see website
>>
>>
>>


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[Axolotl]

I agree with Sully, the NG is not the place to carry on a personal war.
plese take it somewhere else.
AXO

[Sully]

No, not left out, just tired of your nonsense and inflated self
importance, so PLONK you.
Sully

~ jan JJsPond.us wrote:

> Poor Sully, feeling left out? You should have left it alone too, rather
> than being a self-appointed spokesperson for "a lot of people".
>
> My apologies to the group, and a thank you for letting Dkat & I carry on
> without taking sides. ~ jan
>
>
>>On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:46:30 -0500, Sully > wrote:
>
>
>>For crying out loud you two, now a lot of people are "getting a hair
>>up" over your off topic duel. So "lighten up" or take it off line
>>please. That's why they made email, so two people can **** on each
>>other's feet and not get everyone else wet.
>>Sully
>>
>>dkat wrote:
>>
>>>What in the world is derogatory about the term "lighten up"? It certainly
>>>wasn't meant to be, which is why I added all of the extra to try to explain
>>>what it was part of. I really, really dislike language. You need dozens of
>>>emos to get the right meaning.
>>>
>>>And yes I did misinterpret your Cheers. The way it was cut and pasted it
>>>felt like a blowoff.... note felt... subjective not objective which is what
>>>I was trying to get across earlier when I said the way we were interpreting
>>>what was being said was a problem.
>>>
>>>Gey gezuntgeheit is Yiddish (also German)- meaning go in good health but
>>>that isn't enough... it is hard to translate.... kinda means we have done
>>>enough of this (which we apparently hadn't if we were both still
>>>misinterpreting each other). DK
>>>
>>>
>>>"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>>"D Kat" continues:
>>>>>(it seemed at the time slightly intolerant
>>>>>to tell me that if I wanted information on this to go to google and then
>>>>>have you chime in with an unnecessary cheer).
>>>>
>>>>It wasn't a cheer directed at you. It was a good answer, imo, for anyone
>>>>who might be wondering what is going on without it being all dredged up
>>>>again and explained. Especially for an OT thread.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Apparently I'm not sufficiently articulate if you continue to think I'm
>>>
>>>trying to pick a fight
>>>
>>>
>>>>>and it sure seems that this is what you are doing.
>>>>
>>>>I never would have gotten into this if the degatory comment "to lighten
>>>
>>>up"
>>>
>>>
>>>>hadn't been said.
>>>>
>>>>I wouldn't have continued the next time, if there hadn't been a personal
>>>>attack saying, *I must have a wild hair.... *
>>>>
>>>>So who wanted to start a fight? Not me. I just don't like to be told what
>>>>to do, by someone who has no power over me, nor will I tolerate an attack
>>>>on my person. Note, I only asked you to take your own advice, and wondered
>>>>if what you thought was my problem was really yours. Don't sling mud and
>>>>expect not to get it back at ya. ~ jan
>>>>
>>>>See my ponds and filter design:
>>>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>>>
>>>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>>>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>>>> To e-mail see website
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> See my ponds and filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[Theo van Daele]

Guys guys (I call girls guys OK ?) ...

There was an online misunderstanding, probably already settled. No use in
us all chiming in and having our say ("so Theo, WTH are you doing then here
;-) )

Let's not take this too far, we should PORG not PLONK.

Theo

"Sully" > schreef in bericht
...
> No, not left out, just tired of your nonsense and inflated self
> importance, so PLONK you.
> Sully