How late is too late?

[FBCS]

I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond to
process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann

[Nedra]

Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
spring to do that.

Good Luck!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond to
> process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
>
>

[FBCS]

What will I do with my fish? I am enlarging the area where my fish are now
in preforms.
"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
> is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
> spring to do that.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "FBCS" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond
to
> > process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
> >
> >
>
>

[jammer]

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:53:41 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
>is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
>spring to do that.
>
>Good Luck!
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
>> I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond to
>> process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann

And then it may depend on the kind of fish you want, too. Mine was dug
and water and fish put in the same day. GF. They are fine and a year
old.
Zone 7 something...north Texas

[FBCS]

I have GF and Koi
"jammer" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 14:53:41 GMT, "Nedra" >
> wrote:
>
> >Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
> >is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
> >spring to do that.
> >
> >Good Luck!
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> >"FBCS" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond
to
> >> process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
>
> And then it may depend on the kind of fish you want, too. Mine was dug
> and water and fish put in the same day. GF. They are fine and a year
> old.
> Zone 7 something...north Texas

[Nedra]

Opps .. didn't know you had fish! Let the new pond
sit for a week to cure. You know to add the Dechlor,
etc. Same would apply to both goldfish and koi...
just make sure the temp of the water is within 10
degrees of the first pond.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> What will I do with my fish? I am enlarging the area where my fish are now
> in preforms.
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
> > is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
> > spring to do that.
> >
> > Good Luck!
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "FBCS" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the
pond
> to
> > > process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Joann,

It is never TOO late. If your current filters and filter material is being
used for the fish, and if you can move those filters with the fish, then the
pond should have good filtration to take care of the fish waste. If not,
then refrain from feeding, at least very much, until the filter has a chance
of building up to handle the waste. Monitor the ammonia and nitrites
closely during startup.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond to
> process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
>
>

[FBCS]

Hey Rich,
I have a 2000 bio-force functioning right now that I plan to keep in the
line of filtering. To the new pond (5000gal) I will be adding a Pro Pond
Skimmer to the settling tank, a Retro drain to the settling tank to a
pre-filter to the pump 5800 Sequence to 2000 Bio-Force to Skippy falls. All
are new except the 2000 Bioforce that I now use on 500 gals and it's
overworked. I have to get it in before long so my fish survive the winter.
I have thought of giving away all GF and just keeping my Koi, but I would
still be overloaded with just the Koi. Do you think I will be okay? Joann


"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
news:0cc3b.213548$cF.68608@rwcrnsc53...
> Joann,
>
> It is never TOO late. If your current filters and filter material is
being
> used for the fish, and if you can move those filters with the fish, then
the
> pond should have good filtration to take care of the fish waste. If not,
> then refrain from feeding, at least very much, until the filter has a
chance
> of building up to handle the waste. Monitor the ammonia and nitrites
> closely during startup.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
>
>
> "FBCS" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the pond
to
> > process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter? Joann
> >
> >
>
>

[FBCS]

Yes, I have all functioning (not that great) it looks like the Potomac
River, I have to enlarge (too many fish). Plants are just short of being
demolished by the fish, most are floating now. My GF are just as aggressive
as my Koi. I am on well water but I still use pond care stress coat because
I was still concerned with what would be in the water. Fish look better
since using it. Joann

"dkat" > wrote in message
t...
> If you already have the fish, I can see nothing wrong with transporting
them
> from one "pool" to the other at almost any time. I think a concern would
be
> that your biological filter would not be functioning to break down the
> ammonia and you would have not plants to take it in either. But if you
> already have established pools then you have what you need for the fish.
I
> am assuming you know either let the water in the new pond set long enough
> for the chemicals that come in your tap water to evaporate or to use
> something such as pond care stress coat to remove them... I would use that
> in any case since the fish will be stressed when you move them.
>
> DKat
>
> "FBCS" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What will I do with my fish? I am enlarging the area where my fish are
now
> > in preforms.
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
> > > is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
> > > spring to do that.
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > >
> > > "FBCS" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the
> pond
> > to
> > > > process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter?
Joann
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[FBCS]

Sorry Nedra, I should have said I have too many fish. I just don't want to
chance them not making it through the winter. Joann
"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Opps .. didn't know you had fish! Let the new pond
> sit for a week to cure. You know to add the Dechlor,
> etc. Same would apply to both goldfish and koi...
> just make sure the temp of the water is within 10
> degrees of the first pond.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "FBCS" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What will I do with my fish? I am enlarging the area where my fish are
now
> > in preforms.
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > Autumn is the ideal time to put in a new pond. Only thing
> > > is do Not introduce fish - I waited until the following
> > > spring to do that.
> > >
> > > Good Luck!
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > >
> > > "FBCS" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > I am digging ... it is going slowly.... how long do I have for the
> pond
> > to
> > > > process before going into winter. I'm zone 7a. Does irt matter?
Joann
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Joann,

If the current filter is keeping the ammonia and nitrites at or near 0, then
it will still keep them close to zero, even with a bigger pond, because the
source of the pollution is still the same size. The Skippy will come along
after it starts seeing some food source in the water. The only part of the
system that is currently working for you that will be lost is the growth on
the current liner, which could be substantial, so just take it easy on the
food, and monitor the water quality during start up.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"FBCS" > wrote in message
...
> Hey Rich,
> I have a 2000 bio-force functioning right now that I plan to keep in the
> line of filtering. To the new pond (5000gal) I will be adding a Pro Pond
> Skimmer to the settling tank, a Retro drain to the settling tank to a
> pre-filter to the pump 5800 Sequence to 2000 Bio-Force to Skippy falls.
All
> are new except the 2000 Bioforce that I now use on 500 gals and it's
> overworked. I have to get it in before long so my fish survive the
winter.
> I have thought of giving away all GF and just keeping my Koi, but I would
> still be overloaded with just the Koi. Do you think I will be okay? Joann
>
>