Leave and debris screen for pond

[John Bachman]

Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.

I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.

The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
process the orders for me.

Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.

John

[Anne Lurie]

John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!

I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
> Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>
> I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
> not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
> make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
> along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>
> The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
> me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
> process the orders for me.
>
> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
> and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>
> John

[Anne Lurie]

John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!

I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC



"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
> Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>
> I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
> not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
> make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
> along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>
> The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
> me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
> process the orders for me.
>
> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
> and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>
> John

[John Bachman]

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie" >
wrote:

>John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
>prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!
>
>I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
>assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
>people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
>might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.
>
Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
Is that a good idea?

John


>"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
>> Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>>
>> I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>> not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>> make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>> along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>>
>> The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>> me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>> process the orders for me.
>>
>> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>> and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>>
>> John
>

[John Bachman]

On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie" >
wrote:

>John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think your
>prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond owners!
>
>I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
>assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
>people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very much! --
>might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.
>
Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
Is that a good idea?

John


>"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
>> Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>>
>> I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>> not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>> make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>> along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>>
>> The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>> me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>> process the orders for me.
>>
>> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>> and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>>
>> John
>

[RichToyBox]

Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
chance to get sick is very beneficial.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie" >
> wrote:
>
> >John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think
your
> >prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond
owners!
> >
> >I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
> >assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
> >people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very
uch! --
> >might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.
> >
> Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
> leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
> thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
> Is that a good idea?
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
chance to get sick is very beneficial.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"John Bachman" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 22:14:43 GMT, "Anne Lurie" >
> wrote:
>
> >John, my teeny little preform doesn't really need a screen, but I think
your
> >prices are reasonable, based on the effort that they would save pond
owners!
> >
> >I also like the photo of the woman lifting the thing up for cleaning. I
> >assume that the screen would stay in place during a heavy wind, although
> >people in the snow belt -- where I no longer live, thank you very
uch! --
> >might be concerned about the weight of the snow vs. wind, etc.
> >
> Well, I am one of those snow belt folks myself. I do not intend to
> leave the screen up for the winter - just the fall leaf season. I am
> thinking about a plastic cover for the spring - warm things up early.
> Is that a good idea?
>
>

[John Bachman]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:02:40 GMT, "RichToyBox"
> wrote:

>Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
>use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
>possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
>above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
>as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
>where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
>chance to get sick is very beneficial.

OK. I will work on a "greenhouse" cover for the leaf & debris frame.
Something to do this winter! Cool.

John

[John Bachman]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:02:40 GMT, "RichToyBox"
> wrote:

>Yes. As soon as the pond reaches about 50 degrees, I would encourage the
>use of the plastic to bring the temperature up to over 60 as fast as
>possible. Then keep the cover on until the average temperature day/night is
>above 60 before removing it. This will get you through what is referred to
>as aeromonas alley. The opportunity for the fish to get to a temperature
>where the immune system will start to strengthen before the fish have a
>chance to get sick is very beneficial.

OK. I will work on a "greenhouse" cover for the leaf & debris frame.
Something to do this winter! Cool.

John

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan


>On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:

>Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>
>I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>
>The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>process the orders for me.
>
> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>
>John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
would be easier to see through. ~ jan


>On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:

>Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>
>I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>
>The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>process the orders for me.
>
> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>
>John


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[John Bachman]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
>least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
>would be easier to see through. ~ jan
>
>

I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons are:

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm

[John Bachman]

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
>least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
>would be easier to see through. ~ jan
>
>

I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.

The reasons are:

Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.

Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?

The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.

Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.

John
See the pond leaf & debris screen at
www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

John,

I think that's great! I am saving your website for future reference.
~ jan :o)

>On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:47:53 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:

>I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
>would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
>fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.
>
>The reasons are:
>
>Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
>way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
>no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.
>
>Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
>drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
>that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
>up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
>I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?
>
>The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
>mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
>talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
>distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.
>
>Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
>assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.
>
>John
>See the pond leaf & debris screen at
>www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

John,

I think that's great! I am saving your website for future reference.
~ jan :o)

>On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:47:53 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:

>I took your advice and am now offering lower priced kits. The buyers
>would get some of their own PVC materials. I supply the mesh net,
>fittings and fasteners plus a build plan, of course.
>
>The reasons are:
>
>Mesh net - I am buying rolls of 150 yards long by 12 feet wide. That
>way, up to 10' wide frames have a single, solid piece - no joints and
>no gaps. The only way to get this is direct from the factory.
>
>Fittings (PVC angles, tees, etc) - some of these must be bored out and
>drilled for easy disassembly and subsequent reassembly. I presume
>that folks want to store it away when not in use, not just leave it
>up. If you use PVC adhesive you are stuck with a bulky frame. Since
>I am set up to do the boring and drilling, why not do that?
>
>The fasteners are a special Velcro product that mounts nicely to the
>mesh and then straps around the frame. This product (MVA #8 in Velcro
>talk) is not available retail. So, I am buying from a Velcro
>distributor. This is a real nice, clean fastening system.
>
>Thanks for your input. Folks can buy the full system partially
>assembled or a kit as described above. Cool.
>
>John
>See the pond leaf & debris screen at
>www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[[email protected]]

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid

John Bachman > wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:
>
>>I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
>>least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
>>would be easier to see through. ~ jan
>
>Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
>easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
>crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
>pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
>the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.
>
>I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
>boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
>offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
>the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
>to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.
>
>If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
>Right now I have a big roll of white.
>
>Thanks for your feedback.
>
>John
>See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
>talking about.
>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:
>>
>>>Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>>>
>>>I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>>>not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>>>make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>>>along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>>>
>>>The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>>>me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>>>process the orders for me.
>>>
>>> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>>>and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>
>>See my ponds and filter design:
>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid

John Bachman > wrote:

>On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 00:48:51 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:
>
>>I think you could drop the price by having folks go buy their own PVC or at
>>least give the option of buying the screening only? Btw, a black screen
>>would be easier to see through. ~ jan
>
>Interesting points. I have implemented several features that make it
>easy to install and disassemble. For instance, most of the tees and
>crosses are bored out in one direction so that they slide on the PVC
>pipe, no hardware or cement required. Also, the mesh is attached to
>the frame using some special Velcro devices that work very well.
>
>I thought that most pond owners would not want to get into cutting and
>boring PVC but I suppose there are some who would. I will think about
>offering a do-it-yourself plan. I could supply the design details and
>the mesh with the Velcro attached. Then the user can decide whether
>to bore out the fittings or cut and screw/cement.
>
>If there is enough volume I could offer white or black mesh choice.
>Right now I have a big roll of white.
>
>Thanks for your feedback.
>
>John
>See www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
>talking about.
>
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 10:41:04 -0400, John Bachman > wrote:
>>
>>>Yikes! I seem to be in the pond screen business.
>>>
>>>I searched around for a screen to put on my pond this fall but could
>>>not find a suitable one. So I built one. Other people asked me to
>>>make one for them so I did. I made design improvements as I went
>>>along, making it easy to disassemble for storage, easy to clean, etc.
>>>
>>>The next thing you know I am in business. The company I work for gave
>>>me a corner of their www site to display the screen and even will
>>>process the orders for me.
>>>
>>> Take a look at my design at www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm
>>>and see what you think. I would be interested in your comments.
>>>
>>>John
>>
>>
>>See my ponds and filter design:
>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[John Bachman]

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:32 GMT, wrote:

>use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
>folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid
>

That may be a good idea for larger units. The design I have works
well up to 10 feet wide and is easily disassembled for storage (takes
about 5 minutes to do).

However, I am getting requests for larger units and am concerned that
the design will not hold together good enough for them. The shock
cording idea may be suitable for that - it will put the cross elements
into more compression thereby gaining strength.

I will investigate further.

Sheesh, I just wanted a screen for my pond and now I am engineering
like crazy. Oh well, there are worse things to be doing. For
instance, today I must go cut brush at my mother-in-law's house.

John

Go to www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about. I clever leaf and debris screen for ponds.

<snipped all the older stuff>

[John Bachman]

On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 00:21:32 GMT, wrote:

>use shock cording on the PVC, the way they do with tent frames so it can be easily
>folded up and put away in winter. Ingrid
>

That may be a good idea for larger units. The design I have works
well up to 10 feet wide and is easily disassembled for storage (takes
about 5 minutes to do).

However, I am getting requests for larger units and am concerned that
the design will not hold together good enough for them. The shock
cording idea may be suitable for that - it will put the cross elements
into more compression thereby gaining strength.

I will investigate further.

Sheesh, I just wanted a screen for my pond and now I am engineering
like crazy. Oh well, there are worse things to be doing. For
instance, today I must go cut brush at my mother-in-law's house.

John

Go to www.anatekcorp.com/garden/pondscreen.htm to see what we are
talking about. I clever leaf and debris screen for ponds.

<snipped all the older stuff>