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pixi
September 5th 03, 10:30 AM
Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day. Filter,
skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get it
all together and working.

Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.

Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see the
stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing will
start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
enough, out with the lawn mower.

Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.

Pixi

~ jan JJsPond.us
September 5th 03, 07:56 PM
I hope you mow at a higher height starting out. :o) ~ jan

>On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:30:48 -0400, "pixi" > wrote:

>Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day. Filter,
>skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get it
>all together and working.
>
>Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
>haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
>bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
>
>Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see the
>stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing will
>start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
>enough, out with the lawn mower.
>
>Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
>
>Pixi
>


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

~ jan JJsPond.us
September 5th 03, 07:56 PM
I hope you mow at a higher height starting out. :o) ~ jan

>On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:30:48 -0400, "pixi" > wrote:

>Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day. Filter,
>skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get it
>all together and working.
>
>Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
>haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
>bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
>
>Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see the
>stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing will
>start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
>enough, out with the lawn mower.
>
>Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
>
>Pixi
>


See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

RichToyBox
September 7th 03, 01:35 AM
It doesn't take brains, just determination. Just do it. Put everything
where you think you want it, line the pond, look at it, redo it, look at it
again, redo it again. Do not cut the liner for the skimmer until you are
satisfied with the looks of everything. Do not cut the edge of the liner
for a few days, you may need to make adjustments in the elevation of the
edges of the pond to achieve absolute level, and there could be some
settlement of the edges that can be corrected it there is liner available.
Now do it.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"pixi" > wrote in message
...
> Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day. Filter,
> skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get
it
> all together and working.
>
> Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
> haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
> bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
>
> Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see the
> stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing
will
> start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
> enough, out with the lawn mower.
>
> Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
>
> Pixi
>
>

RichToyBox
September 7th 03, 01:35 AM
It doesn't take brains, just determination. Just do it. Put everything
where you think you want it, line the pond, look at it, redo it, look at it
again, redo it again. Do not cut the liner for the skimmer until you are
satisfied with the looks of everything. Do not cut the edge of the liner
for a few days, you may need to make adjustments in the elevation of the
edges of the pond to achieve absolute level, and there could be some
settlement of the edges that can be corrected it there is liner available.
Now do it.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"pixi" > wrote in message
...
> Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day. Filter,
> skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get
it
> all together and working.
>
> Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
> haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
> bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
>
> Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see the
> stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing
will
> start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
> enough, out with the lawn mower.
>
> Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
>
> Pixi
>
>

dkat
September 7th 03, 04:59 PM
May I say "DON'T cut the liner!".... sorry, had to let that out. The extra
liner makes for a wonder bog like area or just a place to put rocks that you
are not going to have to bother with keeping weeds out. Probably the only
thing I can say I regret in what I have done in ponding (other than not
building an acre size pond on my 2/3 acre lot) is having cut the liner on
the first pond I put in. That liner later became my "upper" pond and the
replacing pond that I dug deeper I kept the "corners" on. The next pond I
make I will have a liner that is far larger than needed just so that I can
have the additional edging.

DKat

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
.net...
> It doesn't take brains, just determination. Just do it. Put everything
> where you think you want it, line the pond, look at it, redo it, look at
it
> again, redo it again. Do not cut the liner for the skimmer until you are
> satisfied with the looks of everything. Do not cut the edge of the liner
> for a few days, you may need to make adjustments in the elevation of the
> edges of the pond to achieve absolute level, and there could be some
> settlement of the edges that can be corrected it there is liner available.
> Now do it.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
>
>
> "pixi" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day.
Filter,
> > skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get
> it
> > all together and working.
> >
> > Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
> > haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
> > bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
> >
> > Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see
the
> > stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing
> will
> > start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
> > enough, out with the lawn mower.
> >
> > Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
> >
> > Pixi
> >
> >
>
>

dkat
September 7th 03, 04:59 PM
May I say "DON'T cut the liner!".... sorry, had to let that out. The extra
liner makes for a wonder bog like area or just a place to put rocks that you
are not going to have to bother with keeping weeds out. Probably the only
thing I can say I regret in what I have done in ponding (other than not
building an acre size pond on my 2/3 acre lot) is having cut the liner on
the first pond I put in. That liner later became my "upper" pond and the
replacing pond that I dug deeper I kept the "corners" on. The next pond I
make I will have a liner that is far larger than needed just so that I can
have the additional edging.

DKat

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
.net...
> It doesn't take brains, just determination. Just do it. Put everything
> where you think you want it, line the pond, look at it, redo it, look at
it
> again, redo it again. Do not cut the liner for the skimmer until you are
> satisfied with the looks of everything. Do not cut the edge of the liner
> for a few days, you may need to make adjustments in the elevation of the
> edges of the pond to achieve absolute level, and there could be some
> settlement of the edges that can be corrected it there is liner available.
> Now do it.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
>
>
> "pixi" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Got all the stuff for my new pond (water garden?) the other day.
Filter,
> > skimmer, liner, pump. Trouble is I don't think I have the brains to get
> it
> > all together and working.
> >
> > Although the pond was dug a year ago it has been raining so much that I
> > haven't been able to get much done. And the filter turns out to be much
> > bigger than I thought it would be so I have to dig a bigger hole.
> >
> > Our grass is over a foot high and this morning (4:00 a.m.) I could see
the
> > stars. Saw Orion for the first time this summer. Anyway, first thing
> will
> > start digging as soon as it's light enough. Then when the grass is dry
> > enough, out with the lawn mower.
> >
> > Hope you folks with brace yourselves for a myriad of questions.
> >
> > Pixi
> >
> >
>
>

pixi
September 8th 03, 12:35 PM
Thanks a bunch! I really do appreciate your help. Got the hole for the
filter much enlarged. Hope to finish forming the waterfall path today.
Figure if I get the waterfall done first, I won't have to climb back into
the hole to get fallen shale and dirt out of it.

You should see me dig. I dig about two minutes and then sit for ten because
I have run out of energy. It really gets me that I can't just work until a
job is done. I just hope I can get the pond finshed this fall. Next fall I
am going to throw a birthday party for that pond. And I hope I NEVER get
another bright idea like this one.

I have to call about that SP 100S. It seems to almost identical to the
Pondmaster pump. If so, I might j ust keep it. Joe, you should be a
detective. Your online sleuthing isn't bad at all.

When it comes time to hook up the pump with the filter I'll need some more
advice. I think I need a couple of PVC elbows to connect the 2" pipe to
both pump and filter. There is a pump discharge that hooks to the pump that
I believe will need an elbow. Then I think I need another for the rear of
the filter itself to aim the hose in the right direction since it would not
be smart to bend it at 90degrees.

The problem here is, is the PVC glue enough to make a tight seal when
attaching the elbows or is more needed?

Enough said. Maybe too much.

pixi
September 8th 03, 12:35 PM
Thanks a bunch! I really do appreciate your help. Got the hole for the
filter much enlarged. Hope to finish forming the waterfall path today.
Figure if I get the waterfall done first, I won't have to climb back into
the hole to get fallen shale and dirt out of it.

You should see me dig. I dig about two minutes and then sit for ten because
I have run out of energy. It really gets me that I can't just work until a
job is done. I just hope I can get the pond finshed this fall. Next fall I
am going to throw a birthday party for that pond. And I hope I NEVER get
another bright idea like this one.

I have to call about that SP 100S. It seems to almost identical to the
Pondmaster pump. If so, I might j ust keep it. Joe, you should be a
detective. Your online sleuthing isn't bad at all.

When it comes time to hook up the pump with the filter I'll need some more
advice. I think I need a couple of PVC elbows to connect the 2" pipe to
both pump and filter. There is a pump discharge that hooks to the pump that
I believe will need an elbow. Then I think I need another for the rear of
the filter itself to aim the hose in the right direction since it would not
be smart to bend it at 90degrees.

The problem here is, is the PVC glue enough to make a tight seal when
attaching the elbows or is more needed?

Enough said. Maybe too much.

RichToyBox
September 9th 03, 02:14 AM
Yes, the pvc glue will hold the joint and make it waterproof.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"pixi" > wrote in message
...
> The problem here is, is the PVC glue enough to make a tight seal when
> attaching the elbows or is more needed?
>
> Enough said. Maybe too much.
>
>
>
>
>
>

RichToyBox
September 9th 03, 02:14 AM
Yes, the pvc glue will hold the joint and make it waterproof.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"pixi" > wrote in message
...
> The problem here is, is the PVC glue enough to make a tight seal when
> attaching the elbows or is more needed?
>
> Enough said. Maybe too much.
>
>
>
>
>
>