help with anemone

[Rory Breaker]

hi

i need some help with setting up for an anemone.

i have an well established marine tank, set up for approx 18mths
as follows
trigon 750 corner tank
90 gals capacity
fluval 403
fluval 404
eiheim pro external filter
uv ster
redsea skimmer
powerheads
80-100 kg of live rock
live coral sand
6 damsels {various}
2 common clowns
1 yellow tank
2 cleaner shrimp
12+ turbo snails
hermit crabs

tests
amonia : little or none on test
nitrate : fine
niterite: fine
PH : 8.4

anything i need to test for {other than above} or add to the tank?

anyone



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[Adira]

Rory Breaker wrote:

>
> hi
>
> i need some help with setting up for an anemone.
>
> i have an well established marine tank, set up for approx 18mths
> as follows
> trigon 750 corner tank
> 90 gals capacity
> fluval 403
> fluval 404
> eiheim pro external filter
> uv ster
> redsea skimmer
> powerheads
> 80-100 kg of live rock
> live coral sand
> 6 damsels {various}
> 2 common clowns
> 1 yellow tank
> 2 cleaner shrimp
> 12+ turbo snails
> hermit crabs
>
> tests
> amonia : little or none on test
> nitrate : fine
> niterite: fine
> PH : 8.4
>
> anything i need to test for {other than above} or add to the tank?
>
> anyone
>
>
>

You left out the most important detail..........what kind of lighting do
you have?

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[Don Geddis]

"Rory Breaker" > writes:
> i need some help with setting up for an anemone.

OK...

> i have an well established marine tank, set up for approx 18mths
> as follows
> trigon 750 corner tank
> 90 gals capacity
> fluval 403
> fluval 404
> eiheim pro external filter
> uv ster
> redsea skimmer
> powerheads

Is one of those things a light? You didn't mention the kind of anemone you
wanted, but most of the interesting ones in the aquarium hobby are highly
photosynthetic. So the amount of light they get is a big part of whether
they're healthy. Although it's a poor measure, a lot of people talk about
"watts per gallon". You've got 90 gallons of water. How many watts of light
are you pouring into the tank?

A fish-only tank might have 1-2 watts, easy coral reef tank might have
3-5, high-light coral/anemone tank is often 6-8 watts/gallon, which can be
hard to achieve without metal halides.

> 80-100 kg of live rock
> live coral sand

All good stuff.

> 6 damsels {various}
> 2 common clowns

What's a "common" clown? Do you mean false percula/ocellaris?

> 1 yellow tank

"Tang"?

> 2 cleaner shrimp
> 12+ turbo snails
> hermit crabs

Good.

> tests
> amonia : little or none on test
> nitrate : fine
> niterite: fine

"nitrite".

In any case, "fine" isn't a measurement. Neither is "little or none".
Every test has a minimum threshold. You should report this as "less than X",
where "X" is the smallest measurable amount on your testing equipment.

> PH : 8.4
> anything i need to test for {other than above} or add to the tank?

Lighting is the biggest issue. The rest of the tank seems fine.

You should think careful about the species of anemone you're trying to get.
Is your intention to have your clown fish play in the tentacles? If so, you
may need to be sure you get the right anemone species for whatever species of
clowns you have. Anemones & clowns are _not_ arbitrary mix & match.

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
When I was a child, there were times when we had to entertain ourselves. And
usually the best way to do that was to turn on the TV.
-- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey

[Rory Breaker]

hi all

thanks for the reply

i have 4 standard lights that came with the tank.

not sure of the output.

what type of lighting do i need

power / time on / etc


thanks

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"Don Geddis" > wrote in message
...
> "Rory Breaker" > writes:
> > i need some help with setting up for an anemone.
>
> OK...
>
> > i have an well established marine tank, set up for approx 18mths
> > as follows
> > trigon 750 corner tank
> > 90 gals capacity
> > fluval 403
> > fluval 404
> > eiheim pro external filter
> > uv ster
> > redsea skimmer
> > powerheads
>
> Is one of those things a light? You didn't mention the kind of anemone
you
> wanted, but most of the interesting ones in the aquarium hobby are highly
> photosynthetic. So the amount of light they get is a big part of whether
> they're healthy. Although it's a poor measure, a lot of people talk about
> "watts per gallon". You've got 90 gallons of water. How many watts of
light
> are you pouring into the tank?
>
> A fish-only tank might have 1-2 watts, easy coral reef tank might have
> 3-5, high-light coral/anemone tank is often 6-8 watts/gallon, which can be
> hard to achieve without metal halides.
>
> > 80-100 kg of live rock
> > live coral sand
>
> All good stuff.
>
> > 6 damsels {various}
> > 2 common clowns
>
> What's a "common" clown? Do you mean false percula/ocellaris?
>
> > 1 yellow tank
>
> "Tang"?
>
> > 2 cleaner shrimp
> > 12+ turbo snails
> > hermit crabs
>
> Good.
>
> > tests
> > amonia : little or none on test
> > nitrate : fine
> > niterite: fine
>
> "nitrite".
>
> In any case, "fine" isn't a measurement. Neither is "little or none".
> Every test has a minimum threshold. You should report this as "less than
X",
> where "X" is the smallest measurable amount on your testing equipment.
>
> > PH : 8.4
> > anything i need to test for {other than above} or add to the tank?
>
> Lighting is the biggest issue. The rest of the tank seems fine.
>
> You should think careful about the species of anemone you're trying to
get.
> Is your intention to have your clown fish play in the tentacles? If so,
you
> may need to be sure you get the right anemone species for whatever species
of
> clowns you have. Anemones & clowns are _not_ arbitrary mix & match.
>
> -- Don
>
__________________________________________________ __________________________
___
> Don Geddis
http://reef.geddis.org/
> When I was a child, there were times when we had to entertain ourselves.
And
> usually the best way to do that was to turn on the TV.
> -- Deep Thoughts, by Jack Handey

[Paul Murray]

In article >, Rory Breaker wrote:
> i have 4 standard lights that came with the tank.

How often have you been changing the bulbs?
If these are the original bulbs that came with the tank 18months ago then
they will definately have degraded in output.

-Paul

[Don Geddis]

"Rory Breaker" > writes:
> i have 4 standard lights that came with the tank.
> not sure of the output.
> what type of lighting do i need
> power / time on / etc

You've got to get used to being more precise if you want help. "Standard
lights" doesn't mean anything. Also, the watt rating is critical.

If you don't know, you probably have "NO" (normal output) fluorescents.
Harder to guess on the watts, but maybe 25x4 = 100 watts total?

As I said in my last post (that you didn't answer), many anemones are going
to want 6-8 watts/gallon, for around 8 hours/day. You're probably way
underpowered, but since you have no idea what you have, none of us will be
able to tell you for sure.

To get enough watts, you almost certainly need PC (power compact) fluorescent
technology, and probably all the way to metal halides (most expensive, and
hot).

Again, a lot depends on the species of anemone, which you also haven't been
precise about. Some can do just fine with less lighting. But you'll want to
be sure to hand-feed it often (at least once a week, meaty foods -- perhaps
more often).

-- Don
__________________________________________________ _____________________________
Don Geddis http://reef.geddis.org/
If you ever get shot in the back with an arrow, don't come up yelling, "I just
got shot in the back with an arrow!" Just calm down; you're upsetting the
other guests.
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