weed control

[mjb]

Hi all,
We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a couple
acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem. They
start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet out
from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks down
below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they get
stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked with
fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there, however I
have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond although
I'm not sure that I believe it.
My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the pond
to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?

Mike~

[RichToyBox]

Mike,

Per Aquatic Eco catalog, www.aquaticeco.com Cutrine-Plus liquid can be used
to control weeds without affecting the use of the water for swimming,
livestock, watering, irrigation, or fishing. Cutrine Plus granular is
listed as an algaecide. Because the liquid is a chelated copper that stays
in solution long after initial dose, I do not know what its affect would be
on other areas of the pond. They do have a warning that you should not use
copper based products in waters with koi, carp, goldfish, or trout.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"mjb" > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
> We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a couple
> acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem. They
> start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet out
> from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks
down
> below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they get
> stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked with
> fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there, however
I
> have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond although
> I'm not sure that I believe it.
> My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the pond
> to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?
>
> Mike~
>
>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem. The
next options might be a 15 foot dock? ~ jan


>On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 04:26:15 GMT, "mjb" > wrote:

>Hi all,
>We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a couple
>acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem. They
>start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet out
>from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks down
>below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they get
>stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked with
>fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there, however I
>have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond although
>I'm not sure that I believe it.
>My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the pond
>to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?
>
>Mike~
>

See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[mjb]

I've heard about the sterile grass carp from a co-worker, but he said they
didn't do a thing for his pond. I'd love to put a dock in (this would solve
multiple problems), however the town won't let us. Guess they are afraid
someone will fall off and drown themselves and sue. Thanks for the reply
tho'.

Mike~

~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote in message
...
> Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem.
The
> next options might be a 15 foot dock? ~ jan
>
>
> >On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 04:26:15 GMT, "mjb" > wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a couple
> >acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem.
They
> >start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet out
> >from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks
down
> >below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they get
> >stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked
with
> >fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there, however
I
> >have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond although
> >I'm not sure that I believe it.
> >My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the
pond
> >to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?
> >
> >Mike~
> >
>
> See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
> Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[Phyllis and Jim Hurley]

You might try a professional on the opinion regarding grass carp. They
pretty much clear out all vegetation down here in the South.

Jim

--
__________________________________________
Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per jogger) at:
www.jogathon.net
See our pond at: http://www.home.bellsouth.net/p/pwp-jameshurley
"mjb" > wrote in message
...
> I've heard about the sterile grass carp from a co-worker, but he said they
> didn't do a thing for his pond. I'd love to put a dock in (this would
solve
> multiple problems), however the town won't let us. Guess they are afraid
> someone will fall off and drown themselves and sue. Thanks for the reply
> tho'.
>
> Mike~
>
> ~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote in message
> ...
> > Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem.
> The
> > next options might be a 15 foot dock? ~ jan
> >
> >
> > >On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 04:26:15 GMT, "mjb" > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi all,
> > >We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a
couple
> > >acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem.
> They
> > >start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet
out
> > >from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks
> down
> > >below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they
get
> > >stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked
> with
> > >fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there,
however
> I
> > >have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond
although
> > >I'm not sure that I believe it.
> > >My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the
> pond
> > >to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?
> > >
> > >Mike~
> > >
> >
> > See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
> > http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
> >
> > ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
> > Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
> > To e-mail see website
>
>

[Kathleen]

Phyllis and Jim Hurley wrote:

> You might try a professional on the opinion regarding grass carp. They
> pretty much clear out all vegetation down here in the South.

My folks put four of the sterile grass carp into their 30' by 75' pond
last year to try to deal with the excess vegetation. They think one of
them might have died because they'd never seen more than three of them
at any given time, but it was hard to tell because they were very shy
and had no distinguishing marks. They took care of the extra vegetation
all right, then turned their attention to my mother's beloved water lilies.
My parents gave some thought to adding some sort of prolific plant
(water hyacinth maybe) to keep them fed, but were afraid that the carp
might continue to eat the lilies by preference, and then they'd have a
fish problem AND a plant problem.
The conservation agent told them to cull one or two of the carp, and
that since they won't bite on a hook, it would have to be with a bow and
arrow, a gig, or a gun.
So my dad went out there one day and sat on the bank of the pond until
he saw one of them grazing along the dam on the opposite side. He
nailed it with his .22. We all felt kind of bad about it, but there was
really no other way to remove the fish. It was huge, too. Well over
two feet long, and fat from a diet of exotic lilies.
I think the other carp got word that there was a contract out on them.
They went into hiding and weren't seen for a full week.

Kathleen

[Phyllis and Jim Hurley]

It is indeed the case that they are non-discriminatory in their eating. If
it is green, they try it. Check how many your pond needs before putting any
in!

Jim

--
__________________________________________
Check out Jog-A-Thon fundraiser (clears $140+ per jogger) at:
www.jogathon.net
See our pond at: http://www.home.bellsouth.net/p/pwp-jameshurley
"Kathleen" > wrote in message
...
> Phyllis and Jim Hurley wrote:
>
> > You might try a professional on the opinion regarding grass carp. They
> > pretty much clear out all vegetation down here in the South.
>
> My folks put four of the sterile grass carp into their 30' by 75' pond
> last year to try to deal with the excess vegetation. They think one of
> them might have died because they'd never seen more than three of them
> at any given time, but it was hard to tell because they were very shy
> and had no distinguishing marks. They took care of the extra vegetation
> all right, then turned their attention to my mother's beloved water
lilies.
> My parents gave some thought to adding some sort of prolific plant
> (water hyacinth maybe) to keep them fed, but were afraid that the carp
> might continue to eat the lilies by preference, and then they'd have a
> fish problem AND a plant problem.
> The conservation agent told them to cull one or two of the carp, and
> that since they won't bite on a hook, it would have to be with a bow and
> arrow, a gig, or a gun.
> So my dad went out there one day and sat on the bank of the pond until
> he saw one of them grazing along the dam on the opposite side. He
> nailed it with his .22. We all felt kind of bad about it, but there was
> really no other way to remove the fish. It was huge, too. Well over
> two feet long, and fat from a diet of exotic lilies.
> I think the other carp got word that there was a contract out on them.
> They went into hiding and weren't seen for a full week.
>
> Kathleen
>

[BenignVanilla]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem.
The
> next options might be a 15 foot dock? ~ jan
<snip>

16 may be better. :)

BV.

[Theo van Daele]

> > Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem.

Aren't Dutch carp even better at weed control ? ;-)

<sorry, rough evening>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2003 02:06:10 GMT, "Theo van Daele" >
wrote:

>> > Look into sterile grass carp, they will take care of your weed problem.
>
>Aren't Dutch carp even better at weed control ? ;-)
>
><sorry, rough evening>
>
Mine must be rougher, I don't get it. ???? Or will it loose something in
the explanation? ;o) ~ jan
See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[ponder]

It is all part of mother nature and really you should live with it. Have you
ever been to a lake? Same stuff grows , same spots, can't think of the name
of it:)


mjb > wrote in message
...
> Hi all,
> We run Radio Control Sailboats on a pond that is probably about a couple
> acres in size here in NY. This year we had a very bad weed problem. They
> start about 5 feet out from shore and don't stop until about 15 feet out
> from shore. The problem is that sailboats have a lead keel that sticks
down
> below the boat for about 6-11 inches (depending on the boat) and they get
> stuck in these very thick weeds. The pond is also supposedly stocked with
> fish. I have personally only seen very small bluegills in there, however
I
> have been told that someone caught a 2 foot bass out of the pond although
> I'm not sure that I believe it.
> My question is, can I use granular Cutrine in just our section of the pond
> to kill off the weeds in just our area without harming the fish?
>
> Mike~
>
>