Where to locate new pond in spring

[Steve and Lisa]

Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
trees including one very large Pine.

Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
be getting rid of.

http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg


Lisa

[Chad]

What a question... I would pick Santa Barbara :)

Ok, Actually there can be many right places... my personal choice
favorite would be a location where you could enjoy the view from both
the indside and outside. This currently doesn't exist for my house, so
I am adding an addition in the spring that will have a great view of the
pond. :) Actually, I need the space... but I did design the new addition
around the pond. Now, if you don't have a good view from anywhere
inside the house then I would pick a spot near your favorite
location/sitting/relaxing spot outside. This way you enjoy your pond
and fish friends all the more. Coffee/Pop by the pond is extremely
relaxing.

Of course, there are some other things to take into consideration while
planning... location of trees(fall foliage in the bottom of a cold
pond)... underground wires/pipes(ones you don't want to hit)... location
of electrical outlet(ones to run the pump/filtration)... how easy is the
location to prep for winter... I am sure others wil add more...

[Bob H]

Yeah, I would agree with Chad, looking at the photo alone I would have to
say one place is as good as another, the question is how does it relate to
your house for view, access and the big one GFI protected power.

"Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> be getting rid of.
>
> http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
> Lisa
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> be getting rid of.

Ahh, placement. The precursor to how big? how deep? what kind of filter? The
journey has begun...My thoughts, choose a spot:

1. That is currently pleasant to sit in. If you don't want to hang out there
now, you won't hang out near the pond when it's there.
2. Can you get water to it easily? electricity?
3. Are there buried cables/pipes/roots in the area that may cause problems?
4. How level is the ground? Will it be a beyotch to dig a nice level hole
there? If it's on a hill, how will you deal with run off?
5. Gently place a mirror on the ground, and sit near it. Does the "water"
provide nice reflections?
6. Fall out. If you are near trees (not neccessiraly bad) you will be doing
cleanup from the fallout. I chose a location under a line of pine trees on
one side, and an oak on the other. It is a very natural, "nesteled" setting.
The look is nice, but I am paying for that in cleanup work.
7. Borders. Pay attention to your borders. My pond (see #6) is nestled into
some trees. I now have very little access to the rear side of my pond, or at
least very little dry access.

Oh, and it's off topic, but give yourself some shelves. I didn't. I build
slopers...They suck.

BV.

[MattR]

You want it viewable from in the house or at least the back patio. You
want the pond itself off center (see Japanese garden design). You want
it to take up the whole back yard (so you don't need to mess with the
lawn, sprinklers, etc). Put in a walk way with lots of mystery. It's a
50x70 foot canvas.

Your son is old enough that he doesn't care if there's no lawn in the
back. Not sure where you live but if you do it right, put in a lot of
xeriscape, then you won't have to mess with most of it unless you want to.

Go for it.


Steve and Lisa wrote:
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
> be getting rid of.
>
> http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
> Lisa
>
>

[[-M_a_t_r_i_x-]]

I have mine in the front yard as the sea breeze is much better there
than in the back.
I also fully decorate my pond and front yard every Christmas! Local
media always shows up along with lines of cars trying to catch a glimpse
of the fish along with the Christmas lights. jmo

[RichToyBox]

If I am looking at the picture correctly, the sloped section appears to be
fairly well sloped over a very narrow area. This would lend itself to the
veggie filter flowing into a short stream into the pond with the veggie
filter at the top of the slope and the pond at the bottom of the slope.
Both areas, top and bottom appear to be reasonably level, so the edge of the
pond would be nearly even around the perimeter. I would locate it as far
away from the pine as possible. The leaves can be caught by netting, but
needles just seem to orient themselves to go right through.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> be getting rid of.
>
> http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
> Lisa
>
>

[Mike Davis]

Actually, since their son is old enough to push a lawn mower, he might be
very happy that there's no mowable grass in the back... ;-)

Mike D.

"MattR" > wrote in message
...
> You want it viewable from in the house or at least the back patio. You
> want the pond itself off center (see Japanese garden design). You want
> it to take up the whole back yard (so you don't need to mess with the
> lawn, sprinklers, etc). Put in a walk way with lots of mystery. It's a
> 50x70 foot canvas.
>
> Your son is old enough that he doesn't care if there's no lawn in the
> back. Not sure where you live but if you do it right, put in a lot of
> xeriscape, then you won't have to mess with most of it unless you want to.
>
> Go for it.
>
>
> Steve and Lisa wrote:
> > Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to
dig
> > our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring.
The
> > back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and
several
> > trees including one very large Pine.
> >
> > Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The
kiddy
> > stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left
of
> > the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> > be getting rid of.
> >
> > http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
> >
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> >
>

[Sam Hopkins]

One thing that I see a lot of people mess up on with placement is that they
place it in some back corner somewhere. You should place it where you can
see it all the time and from sitting on your porch. If you have one of those
houses where you can see the back yard from the front door put it so you can
see it (ie your outside, you open the front door and look in, and see
through the house into the back yard) When you go to sell your house nothing
will take the breath away from potential buyers than the front door view
looking into a beautiful pond.

"Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> be getting rid of.
>
> http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
> Lisa
>
>

[[email protected]]

now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely PERFECT. I
got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year in zone 5
right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason is, the
ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water like in
spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after you are done
putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major landscaping like
dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc. furthermore,
plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be properly
aged!!!!
It looks like you have a longer than wider lot. Break that up into "rooms" with the
first room your pond. If you do 2 things, take more pictures including a shot of the
back of the house and draw a sorta plot of where your house is, where your windows
are and the plot of land all to scale, post that and people will help you design it.
Oh what fun.
Ingrid


"Steve and Lisa" > wrote:
>Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
>our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
>back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
>trees including one very large Pine.
>
>Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
>stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
>the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which we'll
>be getting rid of.
>
>http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
>Lisa
>



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[Gareee©]

> wrote in message
...
> now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely
PERFECT. I
> got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year
in zone 5
> right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything. Reason
is, the
> ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water
like in
> spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after
you are done
> putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major
landscaping like
> dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.
furthermore,
> plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be
properly
> aged!!!!

Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to plant
after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)

Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
chop firewood instead! LOL!!


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Homepage:
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Custom Figures, Wallpapers and more!

[Nedra]

Ingrid is absolutely correct in saying that Fall is the best time to
put in a pond... Both my ponds were dug in October and November.
In the Spring the water was cured and all was ready for the transfer of
fish. As for the landscaping... YES! Fall is the best time for doing
this. I moved all the lotuses from their cramped quarters in November
and had a lovely burst of blooms the following June.
Also, the weather is more conducive to digging and dragging
stones, etc. that will be needed to finish off the pond.
Ingrid seems to have ya' covered in all aspects ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Gareee©" > wrote in message
...
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > now is the PERFECT time to dig, line and landscape the pond, absolutely
> PERFECT. I
> > got friends put in ponds and they are busy, busy, busy this time of year
> in zone 5
> > right up until there is a couple feet of snow covering everything.
Reason
> is, the
> > ground is firm and dry. They are not sliding around in a lot of water
> like in
> > spring. Transplanting is superb in fall, GRASS GROWS IN FALL, so after
> you are done
> > putting in the pond and got it filled, you can do all your major
> landscaping like
> > dragging in stones, putting in bulbs and big bushes or trees, etc.
> furthermore,
> > plants are cheaper now than in spring. AND, by spring your pond will be
> properly
> > aged!!!!
>
> Interesting.. we just moved this last summer, and we were told not to
plant
> after Oct. 1 for both grass and clover (there will be LOTS of clover here)
>
> Course it IS cooler, and I DO have to dig out a new pond.... Nah... I'll
> chop firewood instead! LOL!!
>
>
> --
> Gareee©
> Homepage:
> http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/ellison/86/mainframe.htm
> Custom Figures, Wallpapers and more!
>
>

[Anne Lurie]

I realize this has already been addressed by a subsequent poster, but it was
my *first* question -- why is it too late to dig the pond this year? I
couldn't tell where you live, but I'd think that unless the ground is going
to freeze solid soon, this would be a great time to work in the dirt, as you
stand a better chance of not working in soggy clay or some such. (I do,
however, appreciate that you might have higher priorities with your new
house, though!)

I rather like the idea of incorporating the "arbor to nowhere" (think secret
garden) in the grand scheme of things. I definitely second the notion that
you put the pond where you can see it from inside. However, if that is not
feasible, I can envision the appeal of a pond that has its own "space"
(that's where the arbor comes in).

As for the soon-to-be-ex veggie garden, you might give some thought to using
that space as an adjunct to the pond, as I imagine that certain plants might
do much better in an area that was previously garden rather than lawn, which
can be very compacted. (Sorry, I admit to being biased, as I've always had
veggie gardens, even if to grow nothing other than tomatoes & salad greens.)

BTW, I bookmarked your website, as I think the links to the sources for
"things British" as I often see questions for sources in other newsgroups.

Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC


"Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
. ..
> Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to dig
> our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring. The
> back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and several
> trees including one very large Pine.
>
> Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The kiddy
> stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left of
> the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
we'll
> be getting rid of.
>
> http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
>
>
> Lisa
>
>

[Steve and Lisa]

We're in Northeastern Ohio, I think Zone 5ish (cannot really tell on the map
as it looks like we may border two zones......we are an hour south of
Cleveland). Unfortunately here in Ohio people can take 30 days to give over
possession....when we originally signed to purchase the house we thought
sure 30 days ok....whatever.....well big mistake as we signed on October
28th, the sellers had already moved out 2 weeks prior, but won't give us
possession as they are storing a truck load of JUNK in the house. (Hand on
heart, never seen so much junk in basement and garage in my
lifetime......the inspector even wrote in inspection that too much stuff
around to properly inspect walls and floor) The 30 days will be up on
Thanksgiving.......which will more than likely be too late to dig. We asked
could we at least rake leaves, dig pond and remove pink kitty cat wallpaper
from future room of 13 year old, but they refused us access. :o(

Thanks for keeping the links to our Brits in the US site. I hope it helps
out some of your friends......I know it's helped Steve with things he missed
from home. ;o)


Lisa
"Anne Lurie" > wrote in message
. com...
> I realize this has already been addressed by a subsequent poster, but it
was
> my *first* question -- why is it too late to dig the pond this year? I
> couldn't tell where you live, but I'd think that unless the ground is
going
> to freeze solid soon, this would be a great time to work in the dirt, as
you
> stand a better chance of not working in soggy clay or some such. (I do,
> however, appreciate that you might have higher priorities with your new
> house, though!)
>
> I rather like the idea of incorporating the "arbor to nowhere" (think
secret
> garden) in the grand scheme of things. I definitely second the notion that
> you put the pond where you can see it from inside. However, if that is
not
> feasible, I can envision the appeal of a pond that has its own "space"
> (that's where the arbor comes in).
>
> As for the soon-to-be-ex veggie garden, you might give some thought to
using
> that space as an adjunct to the pond, as I imagine that certain plants
might
> do much better in an area that was previously garden rather than lawn,
which
> can be very compacted. (Sorry, I admit to being biased, as I've always
had
> veggie gardens, even if to grow nothing other than tomatoes & salad
greens.)
>
> BTW, I bookmarked your website, as I think the links to the sources for
> "things British" as I often see questions for sources in other newsgroups.
>
> Anne Lurie
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> "Steve and Lisa" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Hi everyone. We just purchased a new home and I know it's too late to
dig
> > our pond this year, but we're not sure where to put it in the spring.
The
> > back is southern exposure, with a small slope 1/4 way into it and
several
> > trees including one very large Pine.
> >
> > Here is a pic of the back garden, any ideas on where is best? (The
kiddy
> > stuff is going as our son is 13.) Oh and the big vegetation to the left
of
> > the arbor that goes nowhere is the previous owners veggie garden which
> we'll
> > be getting rid of.
> >
> > http://www.britsintheus.com/backgarden.jpg
> >
> >
> > Lisa
> >
> >
>
>

[Steve and Lisa]

I want to thank you all for your great ideas. I guess one top priority will
be getting an electrician out to run an electrical line to the pond with GFI
outlets.


Lisa