OT kindof ~ gators in the mail

[K30a]

I thought everybody knew that you can
only ship 19 inch alligators!!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Milwaukee Postal Workers Find Live Gator

November 15, 2003, 7:35 PM EST

MILWAUKEE -- A four-foot alligator chewed its way out of a shipping carton
before a postal worker tossed it into a hamper and called animal control
officers.

Employees were sorting mail Friday when they noticed the alligator chewing its
way out of an Express Mail box, said JoAnne Blackburn, a Postal Service
spokeswoman.

Workers tried to tape the box closed, but the alligator bit it open.

"The nose ... was sticking out with its teeth hanging out," said postal
employee Jennifer Hejdak. She said a co-worker picked it up by its tail and
threw it in a hamper.

The alligator remain at a shelter for a week before being shipped to a northern
Illinois sanctuary, said Len Selkurt, executive director of the Milwaukee Area
Domestic Animal Control. The sanctuary owner will then take it to Florida, he
said.

Alligators longer than 20 inches are not allowed to be sent through the mail,
and officials said the shipment from Milwaukee to Colorado was under review
k30a
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[John Hines]

(K30a) wrote:

>I thought everybody knew that you can
>only ship 19 inch alligators!!!

Wow. I can get an 18 inch gator via the mail? Sounds like just what I
need for the pond.

Or would a croc, or caimian do better? Gonna really get those coons
next spring. <G>

[KenCo]

K30a wrote:
>
> I thought everybody knew that you can
> only ship 19 inch alligators!!!

actually its covered in section 31 of the USPS code :)

any non venomous/non dangerous fish,reptile or cold
blooded animal can be sent by mail. priority or
overnight only unless its fertile eggs.



> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Milwaukee Postal Workers Find Live Gator
>
> November 15, 2003, 7:35 PM EST
>
> MILWAUKEE -- A four-foot alligator chewed its way out of a shipping carton
> before a postal worker tossed it into a hamper and called animal control
> officers.
>
> Employees were sorting mail Friday when they noticed the alligator chewing its
> way out of an Express Mail box, said JoAnne Blackburn, a Postal Service
> spokeswoman.
>
> Workers tried to tape the box closed, but the alligator bit it open.
>
> "The nose ... was sticking out with its teeth hanging out," said postal
> employee Jennifer Hejdak. She said a co-worker picked it up by its tail and
> threw it in a hamper.
>
> The alligator remain at a shelter for a week before being shipped to a northern
> Illinois sanctuary, said Len Selkurt, executive director of the Milwaukee Area
> Domestic Animal Control. The sanctuary owner will then take it to Florida, he
> said.
>
> Alligators longer than 20 inches are not allowed to be sent through the mail,
> and officials said the shipment from Milwaukee to Colorado was under review
> k30a
> http://www.geocities.com/watergardeninglabradors/home.html


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[Carl Beyer]

>
> Wow. I can get an 18 inch gator via the mail? Sounds like just what I
> need for the pond.


One requirement... You must live in an apartment in harlem to get it
delivered...

Carl

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[Nedra]

Non-venomous/Non-dangerous, yeah.
Look out for the teeth though ;-)

Nedra

"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
> K30a wrote:
> >
> > I thought everybody knew that you can
> > only ship 19 inch alligators!!!
>
> actually its covered in section 31 of the USPS code :)
>
> any non venomous/non dangerous fish,reptile or cold
> blooded animal can be sent by mail. priority or
> overnight only unless its fertile eggs.
>
>
>
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Milwaukee Postal Workers Find Live Gator
> >
> > November 15, 2003, 7:35 PM EST
> >
> > MILWAUKEE -- A four-foot alligator chewed its way out of a shipping
carton
> > before a postal worker tossed it into a hamper and called animal control
> > officers.
> >
> > Employees were sorting mail Friday when they noticed the alligator
chewing its
> > way out of an Express Mail box, said JoAnne Blackburn, a Postal Service
> > spokeswoman.
> >
> > Workers tried to tape the box closed, but the alligator bit it open.
> >
> > "The nose ... was sticking out with its teeth hanging out," said postal
> > employee Jennifer Hejdak. She said a co-worker picked it up by its tail
and
> > threw it in a hamper.
> >
> > The alligator remain at a shelter for a week before being shipped to a
northern
> > Illinois sanctuary, said Len Selkurt, executive director of the
Milwaukee Area
> > Domestic Animal Control. The sanctuary owner will then take it to
Florida, he
> > said.
> >
> > Alligators longer than 20 inches are not allowed to be sent through the
mail,
> > and officials said the shipment from Milwaukee to Colorado was under
review
> > k30a
> > http://www.geocities.com/watergardeninglabradors/home.html
>
>
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[K30a]

Carl wrote >>One requirement... You must live in an apartment in harlem to get
it
delivered...<<

chortle! And you have to have a tiger
to keep it company!


k30a
http://www.geocities.com/watergardeninglabradors/home.html

[Hank]

(K30a) wrote in message >...
> I thought everybody knew that you can
> only ship 19 inch alligators!!!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Milwaukee Postal Workers Find Live Gator
>
> November 15, 2003, 7:35 PM EST
>
> MILWAUKEE -- A four-foot alligator chewed its way out of a shipping carton
> before a postal worker tossed it into a hamper and called animal control
> officers.
>
> Employees were sorting mail Friday when they noticed the alligator chewing its
> way out of an Express Mail box, said JoAnne Blackburn, a Postal Service
> spokeswoman.
>
> Workers tried to tape the box closed, but the alligator bit it open.
>
> "The nose ... was sticking out with its teeth hanging out," said postal
> employee Jennifer Hejdak. She said a co-worker picked it up by its tail and
> threw it in a hamper.
>
> The alligator remain at a shelter for a week before being shipped to a northern
> Illinois sanctuary, said Len Selkurt, executive director of the Milwaukee Area
> Domestic Animal Control. The sanctuary owner will then take it to Florida, he
> said.
>
> Alligators longer than 20 inches are not allowed to be sent through the mail,
> and officials said the shipment from Milwaukee to Colorado was under review
> k30a
> http://www.geocities.com/watergardeninglabradors/home.html

The way mail service has been lately ...... it probably was only 18in.
when it was sent.

http://www.geocities.com/hankpagel/hankspond1.html

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Well now we know how he originally got the tiger and the gator in the apt
in first place.

What amazes me is/was one could get a tiger cub for the price of most
register dogs!!! Yet people can't breed Sugar Gliders (a tropical critter
that looks like and is smaller than a chipmunk) without a home inspection
and license thru Fish & Wildlife. California doesn't allow them in the
state at all, but look at all the wild critters the Hollywood stars have!
Why? Because S.Gliders might get loose and eat some of the fruit crop. I
guess people eaters are okay. ~ jan

>Carl wrote >>One requirement... You must live in an apartment in harlem to get
>it >delivered...<<
>
>chortle! And you have to have a tiger
>to keep it company! k30a
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[Offbreed]

~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote in message >...


> Why? Because S.Gliders might get loose and eat some of the fruit crop. I
> guess people eaters are okay. ~ jan

They really should be careful of that. What if one of those things got
loose and ate some actors/actresses?

Poor critter would be in seriously bad shape, eating all that plastic
and silicon.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>The way mail service has been lately ...... it probably was only 18in.
>when it was sent. Hank

LOL!

>> Why? Because S.Gliders might get loose and eat some of the fruit crop. I
>> guess people eaters are okay. ~ jan
>
Offbreed's legitimate concerns, PETA are you paying attention?:
>They really should be careful of that. What if one of those things got
>loose and ate some actors/actresses?
>
>Poor critter would be in seriously bad shape, eating all that plastic
>and silicon. Offbreed

Not too mention frames like hollow chicken bones. ;o) ~ jan
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this is blatantly racist. the reality is all the people I have seen on TV trying to
explain how and why their hand raised and tame tigers/pit bulls/rottweilers attacked
and killed their own or the neighbor kids were white people. And I might add, from
the way they brutalized english were stupid white people. Ingrid

> .. You must live in an apartment in harlem to get

>chortle! And you have to have a tiger
>to keep it company!


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[K30a]

Ingrid wrote << this is blatantly racist >>

Oh, for heaven's sake!
It is not.
And I'm not.








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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:58:19 GMT, wrote:

>this is blatantly racist. the reality is all the people I have seen on TV trying to
>explain how and why their hand raised and tame tigers/pit bulls/rottweilers attacked
>and killed their own or the neighbor kids were white people. And I might add, from
>the way they brutalized english were stupid white people. Ingrid
>
Hmmmm, not that I want to start a dog fight, but.... watch AP Animal
Precinct or Animal Cops sometime, and you'll see multicolors of stupid
people. Thus said, don't you think your above statements could also be
considered racist, or is it PC to dump on white people, as long as they're
stupid and can't speak english well? ;o) ~ jan
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[THE Old Man]

On 16 Nov 2003 23:56:27 -0800, (Offbreed)
wrote:

>~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote in message >...
>
>
>> Why? Because S.Gliders might get loose and eat some of the fruit crop. I
>> guess people eaters are okay. ~ jan
>
>They really should be careful of that. What if one of those things got
>loose and ate some actors/actresses?
>
>Poor critter would be in seriously bad shape, eating all that plastic
>and silicon.
SPLURT!!! HA! You caught me with a mouth full of coca cola and I had
to change keyboards. That is a good one.

dd

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no, stupid white people is descriptive, calling them stupid white trash is
pejorative. Ingrid

~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote:
Thus said, don't you think your above statements could also be
>considered racist, or is it PC to dump on white people, as long as they're
>stupid and can't speak english well? ;o) ~ jan


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I use ignorant and stupid in different contexts completely. People are ignorant
because nobody took the time to teach them and they can learn.
Stupid people have all the facts at/in hand and chose to ignore the facts so they can
just do what they want. Now I dont care if they Darwin themselves out of existence,
but I get very nasty when their own or neighborhood children have to pay the ultimate
price for some adult's stupidity. Ingrid

~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote:
>Hmmmm, not that I want to start a dog fight, but.... watch AP Animal
>Precinct or Animal Cops sometime, and you'll see multicolors of stupid
>people. Thus said, don't you think your above statements could also be
>considered racist, or is it PC to dump on white people, as long as they're
>stupid and can't speak english well? ;o) ~ jan


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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Okay, I'm totally lost and confused how a little joking around regarding a
minor news event got ya so steamed Ingrid. Is it finals week and you're
grading way too many papers of stupid students? ;o) ~ jan

>On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:13:41 GMT, wrote:

>I use ignorant and stupid in different contexts completely. People are ignorant
>because nobody took the time to teach them and they can learn.
>Stupid people have all the facts at/in hand and chose to ignore the facts so they can
>just do what they want. Now I dont care if they Darwin themselves out of existence,
>but I get very nasty when their own or neighborhood children have to pay the ultimate
>price for some adult's stupidity. Ingrid
>
>~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote:
>>Hmmmm, not that I want to start a dog fight, but.... watch AP Animal
>>Precinct or Animal Cops sometime, and you'll see multicolors of stupid
>>people. Thus said, don't you think your above statements could also be
>>considered racist, or is it PC to dump on white people, as long as they're
>>stupid and can't speak english well? ;o) ~ jan
>
>
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[KenCo]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote:
>
> Okay, I'm totally lost and confused how a little joking around regarding a
> minor news event got ya so steamed Ingrid. Is it finals week and you're
> grading way too many papers of stupid students? ;o) ~ jan


racists?, theres an old saying "the people who yell the loudest........"

next!

IMO
stupid students are usually the direct result of incompetent teachers.


i.e.
give a young cashier all bills then find the exact change
and try to give it to them after they punch the keys so you
can get all bills back, they're usually completely bewildered
as to what to give you for change! ;)




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[KenCo]

wrote:
>
> no, stupid white people is descriptive, calling them stupid white trash is
> pejorative. Ingrid



both can be considered racist in your context,
BUT, as it was written like a joke/or jokingly
the original intent was then IMO not racist.

INTENT is the difference between joking vs racism!

ever hang out w/ a bunch of black folk and hear
how many times they will use the Ni... word?
again, its in the INTENT!



my .02 :)



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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>ever hang out w/ a bunch of black folk and hear
>how many times they will use the Ni... word?
>again, its in the INTENT!

Don't have to hang out, just listen to a black rapper's CD. Whoa! ~ jan
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doesnt matter who's mouth it comes outta, it is racist and black people have
"bought" the stereotype, it is every bit as pejorative. you dont find many well
educated black people using language like that. Ingrid

~ jan JJsPond.us > wrote:

>>ever hang out w/ a bunch of black folk and hear
>>how many times they will use the Ni... word?
>>again, its in the INTENT!
>
>Don't have to hang out, just listen to a black rapper's CD. Whoa! ~ jan
>See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
> Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website



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[john rutz]

KenCo wrote:
> "~ jan JJsPond.us" wrote:
>
>>Okay, I'm totally lost and confused how a little joking around regarding a
>>minor news event got ya so steamed Ingrid. Is it finals week and you're
>>grading way too many papers of stupid students? ;o) ~ jan
>
>
>
> racists?, theres an old saying "the people who yell the loudest........"
>
> next!
>
> IMO
> stupid students are usually the direct result of incompetent teachers.
>
>
> i.e.
> give a young cashier all bills then find the exact change
> and try to give it to them after they punch the keys so you
> can get all bills back, they're usually completely bewildered
> as to what to give you for change! ;).

so true sko used to the cash register doing all the math they cant
think,,,,, even more fun if the total is x$ and change give em a
check for the dollar amount and coins for the change,,,, bet two of
three will call for a manager to help figure out what to do

John Rutz