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Chagoi
November 19th 03, 05:13 PM
Hi
I seem to have a small problem, in that my pond kids only want to eat peas.
It has gone from a treat to a requirement for them.
I feed them their normal koi food (Sho Koi) and it will float on the
water for 2,3,4 days before they eat it.
Even if I skip a day or two of peas.

I brought them inside for the winter, 4 weeks ago, they are in "The
TOMB" in my basement.
(http://www.ourkoipond.com/The_Tomb3.htm)
They seem perfectly happy, their appitite (For peas only) is great, the
water quality is 99.9% perfect.
Water temp. steady 66 degs.
They even started to meet me at the entrance of the tomb.
I'm just a little concerned that they may not be getting all the
necessary nutriments they need.
They also seem to be getting a rather good supply of Caddis flys which
came in with the pump and vortex setup.

Any thoughts/comments

Chagoi

OT ... Anne Laurie did you get Mailwasher up and running?

jammer
November 19th 03, 09:31 PM
How long have you had them?

I am not an expert, but if we only ate peas, our diet would be
deficient of nutrients. In a pond, there is algae and bugs for them to
eat. All peas should be ok if that is all they'll eat. But maybe they
are eating food off of the bottom later. Inside where they are no
bugs, i would think they need a more balanced diet.

Now, you experts tell me how i did.
:)


On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:13:33 -0500, Chagoi >
wrote:

>Hi
>I seem to have a small problem, in that my pond kids only want to eat peas.
>It has gone from a treat to a requirement for them.
>I feed them their normal koi food (Sho Koi) and it will float on the
>water for 2,3,4 days before they eat it.
>Even if I skip a day or two of peas.
>
>I brought them inside for the winter, 4 weeks ago, they are in "The
>TOMB" in my basement.
>(http://www.ourkoipond.com/The_Tomb3.htm)
>They seem perfectly happy, their appitite (For peas only) is great, the
>water quality is 99.9% perfect.
>Water temp. steady 66 degs.
>They even started to meet me at the entrance of the tomb.
>I'm just a little concerned that they may not be getting all the
>necessary nutriments they need.
>They also seem to be getting a rather good supply of Caddis flys which
>came in with the pump and vortex setup.
>
>Any thoughts/comments
>
>Chagoi
>
>OT ... Anne Laurie did you get Mailwasher up and running?

Chagoi
November 19th 03, 11:25 PM
jammer wrote:
> How long have you had them?

Since the end of May

> I am not an expert, but if we only ate peas, our diet would be
> deficient of nutrients. In a pond, there is algae and bugs for them to
> eat. All peas should be ok if that is all they'll eat. But maybe they
> are eating food off of the bottom later.

There is nothing on the bottom as this is a new setup,
all i used out of the outside pond was the old water and the filter
setup.
After 4 weeks the bottom has only the start of any algae growth.
Inside where they are no bugs,

They do have some Caddis flies buzzing around the water, but they are
far from a meal
for 90 inches of Koi
(2-20", 1-12", 3-10", 1-8" = 90") on 11/15/2003 up from
(2-14" , 5- 4" = 48") on 5/30/2003

Chagoi


i would think they need a more balanced diet.
>
> Now, you experts tell me how i did.
> :)
>
>
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:13:33 -0500, Chagoi >
> wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>I seem to have a small problem, in that my pond kids only want to eat peas.
>>It has gone from a treat to a requirement for them.
>>I feed them their normal koi food (Sho Koi) and it will float on the
>>water for 2,3,4 days before they eat it.
>>Even if I skip a day or two of peas.
>>
>>I brought them inside for the winter, 4 weeks ago, they are in "The
>>TOMB" in my basement.
>>(http://www.ourkoipond.com/The_Tomb3.htm)
>>They seem perfectly happy, their appitite (For peas only) is great, the
>>water quality is 99.9% perfect.
>>Water temp. steady 66 degs.
>>They even started to meet me at the entrance of the tomb.
>>I'm just a little concerned that they may not be getting all the
>>necessary nutriments they need.
>>They also seem to be getting a rather good supply of Caddis flys which
>>came in with the pump and vortex setup.
>>
>>Any thoughts/comments
>>
>>Chagoi
>>
>>OT ... Anne Laurie did you get Mailwasher up and running?
>
>

Phyllis and Jim Hurley
November 20th 03, 12:08 PM
Our neighbor got his cat onto a 'wet food' diet of expensive cat food. It
turned up its nose at all else. It waited him out on when he moved back to
dry cat food. That process, repeated, is how kids get taught to tantrum!
Longer and longer waits until the parents give in.

To get them to eat other stuff, stop peas. Inconsistent stopping will teach
them to wait another day in hopes that the peas will come. Given a choice
of no food or regular food, they will choose regular before death!

Try peas again once they have been on regular for a month or two. If they
do the nose-up routine again, you get to wait them out again.

Good luck.

Jim
"Chagoi" > wrote in message
...
> Hi
> I seem to have a small problem, in that my pond kids only want to eat
peas.
> It has gone from a treat to a requirement for them.
> I feed them their normal koi food (Sho Koi) and it will float on the
> water for 2,3,4 days before they eat it.
> Even if I skip a day or two of peas.
>
> I brought them inside for the winter, 4 weeks ago, they are in "The
> TOMB" in my basement.
> (http://www.ourkoipond.com/The_Tomb3.htm)
> They seem perfectly happy, their appitite (For peas only) is great, the
> water quality is 99.9% perfect.
> Water temp. steady 66 degs.
> They even started to meet me at the entrance of the tomb.
> I'm just a little concerned that they may not be getting all the
> necessary nutriments they need.
> They also seem to be getting a rather good supply of Caddis flys which
> came in with the pump and vortex setup.
>
> Any thoughts/comments
>
> Chagoi
>
> OT ... Anne Laurie did you get Mailwasher up and running?
>

November 20th 03, 06:52 PM
dont feed them for 3-5 days. put in 2 pellets per fish, no more. walk away and see
if it is gone in an hour or so.
if this doesnt work, switch food. I have never had fussy GF or koi, but peas have
almost NO nutrition that can be used by koi. it is a laxative. Ingrid

Chagoi > wrote:
>I seem to have a small problem, in that my pond kids only want to eat peas.
>It has gone from a treat to a requirement for them.
>I feed them their normal koi food (Sho Koi) and it will float on the
>water for 2,3,4 days before they eat it.



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