Turkey Day

[tdreeves]

May each and everyone have a Blessed Thanksgiving!
From the Reeves Family in Arizona.

[Steve Jackson]

In message <lHpxb.22755$m24.22575@fed1read02>, tdreeves
> writes
>May each and everyone have a Blessed Thanksgiving!
>From the Reeves Family in Arizona.
>
>
Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea what
Thanksgiving Day is all about!

Could someone please enlighten me?

Have a good one anyway:-))
--
Steve

[mad]

thanksgiving day is our national holiday that commemorates the 1st harvest
the pilgrims had in the new world and how thankful they were to still be
alive. the indians are supposed to have brought food to the pilgrims thereby
showing no hostility toward them. it has become a day for us to thank God
(or if one doesn't believe, whoever provides the good life one has) for our
homes, loved ones and way of life. turkey is a native bird here, supposed to
have been one of the foods the pilgrims ate on the first thanksgiving day
and a staple of the early american diet. ben franklin, one of our founding
fathers, wanted the turkey to be our national bird because of its economic
importance and its delicious flavor, but the american bald eagle won the
contest. there are times that i wish the turkey had won because of the
eagles warring qualities. oh well. not my choice.
mad
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> From: Steve Jackson >
> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:06:46 +0000
> Subject: Re: Turkey Day
>
> In message <lHpxb.22755$m24.22575@fed1read02>, tdreeves
> > writes
>> May each and everyone have a Blessed Thanksgiving!
>> From the Reeves Family in Arizona.
>>
>>
> Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea what
> Thanksgiving Day is all about!
>
> Could someone please enlighten me?
>
> Have a good one anyway:-))
> --
> Steve



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[KenCo]

mad wrote:
>
> thanksgiving day is our national holiday that commemorates the 1st harvest
> the pilgrims had in the new world and how thankful they were to still be
> alive. the indians are supposed to have brought food to the pilgrims thereby
> showing no hostility toward them. it has become a day for us to thank God
> (or if one doesn't believe, whoever provides the good life one has) for our
> homes, loved ones and way of life. turkey is a native bird here, supposed to
> have been one of the foods the pilgrims ate on the first thanksgiving day
> and a staple of the early american diet.


FYI
not even close w/ the turkey ;)

Plymouth plantation is on the coast, not inland, so seafood was a staple
food.
they've had many specials on FoodTV channel about the real foods served.

Venison, rabbit, eels, clams, scallops, lobsters, root veggies, corn and
a few
other delights were at the orig. feasts. interesting huh????

"Popcorn" was also introduced to the pilgrams via the Wampanoag Indians,
they put honey on it, so they invented the basics of "caramel corn" lol

The Plantation/Fort is still there and if your ever in Boston or Prov.
area
its a really cool trip along w/ seeing the orig. (replica) Mayflower.


p.s.
I live less than an hr. away from the Plymouth plantation and have been
there
many many times :)



ben franklin, one of our founding
> fathers, wanted the turkey to be our national bird because of its economic
> importance and its delicious flavor, but the american bald eagle won the
> contest. there are times that i wish the turkey had won because of the
> eagles warring qualities. oh well. not my choice.
> mad
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[mad]

i just said what i was told. i do know that the indians are sorry they
helped. :-D
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> From: KenCo >
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> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 15:21:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: Turkey Day
>
> mad wrote:
>>
>> thanksgiving day is our national holiday that commemorates the 1st harvest
>> the pilgrims had in the new world and how thankful they were to still be
>> alive. the indians are supposed to have brought food to the pilgrims thereby
>> showing no hostility toward them. it has become a day for us to thank God
>> (or if one doesn't believe, whoever provides the good life one has) for our
>> homes, loved ones and way of life. turkey is a native bird here, supposed to
>> have been one of the foods the pilgrims ate on the first thanksgiving day
>> and a staple of the early american diet.
>
>
> FYI
> not even close w/ the turkey ;)
>
> Plymouth plantation is on the coast, not inland, so seafood was a staple
> food.
> they've had many specials on FoodTV channel about the real foods served.
>
> Venison, rabbit, eels, clams, scallops, lobsters, root veggies, corn and
> a few
> other delights were at the orig. feasts. interesting huh????
>
> "Popcorn" was also introduced to the pilgrams via the Wampanoag Indians,
> they put honey on it, so they invented the basics of "caramel corn" lol
>
> The Plantation/Fort is still there and if your ever in Boston or Prov.
> area
> its a really cool trip along w/ seeing the orig. (replica) Mayflower.
>
>
> p.s.
> I live less than an hr. away from the Plymouth plantation and have been
> there
> many many times :)
>
>
>
> ben franklin, one of our founding
>> fathers, wanted the turkey to be our national bird because of its economic
>> importance and its delicious flavor, but the american bald eagle won the
>> contest. there are times that i wish the turkey had won because of the
>> eagles warring qualities. oh well. not my choice.
>> mad
>> --
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>
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[Gale Pearce]

Now we know where your "Turkey recipe for the Chef challenged " cooks came
from in the other thread :~>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends
Gale :~)

"Popcorn" was also introduced to the pilgrams via the Wampanoag Indians,

[KenCo]

Gale Pearce wrote:
>
> Now we know where your "Turkey recipe for the Chef challenged " cooks came
> from in the other thread :~>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> Happy Thanksgiving to all my American friends
> Gale :~)
>
> "Popcorn" was also introduced to the pilgrams via the Wampanoag Indians,

LOL, its not my recipe, saw it on another group.



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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea what
>Thanksgiving Day is all about!
>
>Could someone please enlighten me?

http://view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?AVNEYGJ6AZ834
Note no women cartoon characters located at the above website. ;o)

Check that out, only the traditional dish is turkey, mash potatoes w/gravy,
sweet potatoes/yams, other veggies or fruit dishes, pumpkin pie.

From this woman's point of view it's a day I work for 6 hrs. in the kitchen
and end up cheated, as by the time I get to sit down, my guests all have to
"hit the road". <s> ~ jan
See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[Nedra]

Only 6 hours?? That is All the time you spend in the kitchen on
Thanksgiving Day?? How lucky you are (or Unlucky). I make
a motion you hang out with R. Rhudy - lol two of a kind ..

Btw, I learned the Thanksgiving story same as 'mad' did ....

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> >Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea what
> >Thanksgiving Day is all about!
> >
> >Could someone please enlighten me?
>
> http://view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?AVNEYGJ6AZ834
> Note no women cartoon characters located at the above website. ;o)
>
> Check that out, only the traditional dish is turkey, mash potatoes
w/gravy,
> sweet potatoes/yams, other veggies or fruit dishes, pumpkin pie.
>
> From this woman's point of view it's a day I work for 6 hrs. in the
kitchen
> and end up cheated, as by the time I get to sit down, my guests all have
to
> "hit the road". <s> ~ jan
> See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
> Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website

[KenCo]

The full history of the Mayflower and Thanksgiving,
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosmd/
its a big page!

part 5 has the actual feast documented.

quite a feat for only 4 women and 5 teens ;)

.............
For three days the Pilgrims and their Indian guests
gorged themselves on venison, roast duck, goose and
turkey, clams and other shell-fish, succulent eels,
corn bread, hasty pudding, leeks and water-cress and
other "sallet herbes," with wild plums and dried
berries as dessert, all washed down with wine made
of the wild grape. The affair was more like an out-door
barbeque for the entire population, than a family
reunion dinner.
............





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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

You still have that chip on your shoulder? I thought you'd gotten over it,
my mistake. Course I never have figured out what it was.

You missed my point, (but snipers usually do when they're just waiting to
shoot you down) that being, my complaint wasn't about my time in the
kitchen, but I got cheated of the time with my relatives.

Take your BTUs off Nedra, and give me a break, if not, let's take it to
e-mail. ~ jan

>Only 6 hours?? That is All the time you spend in the kitchen on
>Thanksgiving Day?? How lucky you are (or Unlucky). I make
>a motion you hang out with R. Rhudy - lol two of a kind ..
>
>Btw, I learned the Thanksgiving story same as 'mad' did ....
>
>Nedra

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[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:57:23 -0600
Bob Adkins > wrote:

>
> >Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea
> >what Thanksgiving Day is all about!
> >
> >Could someone please enlighten me?
> >
> >Have a good one anyway:-))
>
> It's a drunken, uproarious celebration commemorating our freedom from
> England.
>
> No, just kidding! :)
>
> To most Americans, Thanksgiving is a chance to offer thanks for the
> bounty of our land, and for our family, friends, and health. It's our
> second most important holiday, after Christmas.
>
> Bob

Bite your tongue! The most important is July 4.
More important that all the rest together.

Cybe R. Wizard
--
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Original PORG "Water Wizard," R.P.
"Wize(ned) Wizard," A.P.F-P-Y.
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[Ka30P]

Thanksgiving can sometimes
be mistaken for *Christmas Part One*
at least by retail establishments.

And Halloween is *Pre~Christmas*.

;-)





ka30p
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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Does that make New's Years *Post-Christmas* or is that the whole week after
Christmas, sell before inventory? ~ jan

>
>Thanksgiving can sometimes
>be mistaken for *Christmas Part One*
>at least by retail establishments.
>
>And Halloween is *Pre~Christmas*.
>
>;-)
>
>
>
>
>
>ka30p
>http://www.geocities.com/watergardeninglabradors/home.html

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~Keep 'em Defrosted~
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[Cybe R. Wizard]

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:50:31 -0600
Bob Adkins > wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:59:19 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
> <Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower> wrote:
>
>
> >Bite your tongue! The most important is July 4.
> >More important that all the rest together.
>
> Hey, I agree! I was just stating the amount of preparation and
> celebrating that goes into each by the average American.
>
> Bob

Too right. Before long the Fourth will only be known as the time
Christmas stuff comes out in the stores. ;-}

Cybe R. Wizard
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[Ka30P]

As a person who has her favorite
catalogs through out the year the 4th of
July means the catalogs with Halloween
stuff will be coming soon. Halloween means
the Christmas catalogs are due.
New Years means garden catalogs!


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[THE Old Man]

I do the cooking at Thanksgiving and Christmas at our home. I spend
about 8 hours ... 4 hours the evening before and another 4
Thanksgiving morning. I enlist (read that FORCE) the kids to help out
so Thanksgiving meal is not spent in the kitchen and the cleanup is
shared so I don't miss out on much.

[B U R P]


On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:04 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>Only 6 hours?? That is All the time you spend in the kitchen on
>Thanksgiving Day?? How lucky you are (or Unlucky). I make
>a motion you hang out with R. Rhudy - lol two of a kind ..
>
>Btw, I learned the Thanksgiving story same as 'mad' did ....
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
>> >Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea what
>> >Thanksgiving Day is all about!
>> >
>> >Could someone please enlighten me?
>>
>> http://view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?AVNEYGJ6AZ834
>> Note no women cartoon characters located at the above website. ;o)
>>
>> Check that out, only the traditional dish is turkey, mash potatoes
>w/gravy,
>> sweet potatoes/yams, other veggies or fruit dishes, pumpkin pie.
>>
>> From this woman's point of view it's a day I work for 6 hrs. in the
>kitchen
>> and end up cheated, as by the time I get to sit down, my guests all have
>to
>> "hit the road". <s> ~ jan
>> See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
>> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
>> Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website
>

[Nedra]

Now that's the way it's done, Old Man! I used to devote hours and
hours to doing just the garnishes for the food to say nothing of
the time involved in cooking the goodies.. 'course I had planned
a Thanksgiving baby and (3 years later) a Christmas baby and
was pleasantly surprised at how close I got to those dates. (Dave
arrived at 5:25 pm on 26th of November - Wednesday before Thanksgiving - Den
at 11:00 am on the 21st of December which turned
out to be the last day of school ;) )

So that the boys wouldn't feel cheated, I had extra Kids
birthday parties. The house was already decorated and it did
seem odd not taking advantage of it. I still make a fuss over their
birthdays and the Holidays. :)

Such wonderful glorious fun!!

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"THE Old Man" > wrote in message
...
> I do the cooking at Thanksgiving and Christmas at our home. I spend
> about 8 hours ... 4 hours the evening before and another 4
> Thanksgiving morning. I enlist (read that FORCE) the kids to help out
> so Thanksgiving meal is not spent in the kitchen and the cleanup is
> shared so I don't miss out on much.
>
> [B U R P]
>
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 03:50:04 GMT, "Nedra" >
> wrote:
>
> >Only 6 hours?? That is All the time you spend in the kitchen on
> >Thanksgiving Day?? How lucky you are (or Unlucky). I make
> >a motion you hang out with R. Rhudy - lol two of a kind ..
> >
> >Btw, I learned the Thanksgiving story same as 'mad' did ....
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> >"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> >Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea
what
> >> >Thanksgiving Day is all about!
> >> >
> >> >Could someone please enlighten me?
> >>
> >> http://view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?AVNEYGJ6AZ834
> >> Note no women cartoon characters located at the above website. ;o)
> >>
> >> Check that out, only the traditional dish is turkey, mash potatoes
> >w/gravy,
> >> sweet potatoes/yams, other veggies or fruit dishes, pumpkin pie.
> >>
> >> From this woman's point of view it's a day I work for 6 hrs. in the
> >kitchen
> >> and end up cheated, as by the time I get to sit down, my guests all
have
> >to
> >> "hit the road". <s> ~ jan
> >> See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
> >> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
> >>
> >> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
> >> Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
> >> To e-mail see website
> >
>

[mad]

but according to this they DID have turkey...
mad
--
A waist is a terrible thing to mind.

> From: KenCo >
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> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:04:42 -0500
> Subject: Re: real story of Turkey Day
>
>
>
> The full history of the Mayflower and Thanksgiving,
> http://www.rootsweb.com/~mosmd/
> its a big page!
>
> part 5 has the actual feast documented.
>
> quite a feat for only 4 women and 5 teens ;)
>
> ............
> For three days the Pilgrims and their Indian guests
> gorged themselves on venison, roast duck, goose and
> turkey, clams and other shell-fish, succulent eels,
> corn bread, hasty pudding, leeks and water-cress and
> other "sallet herbes," with wild plums and dried
> berries as dessert, all washed down with wine made
> of the wild grape. The affair was more like an out-door
> barbeque for the entire population, than a family
> reunion dinner.
> ...........
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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[mad]

i might go along with that with some qualifiers: july 4th allows us to
celebrate all the other holidays in the manner that we deem best for us. but
for me, religiously, easter is the most important. christmas is the most
important national holiday ECONOMICALLY and for me, 2nd most important
religiously. but, it is the most fun as i love giving gifts to my loved
ones.
goes back to the 4th of july. most important so that i can celebrate all the
religious holidays.
mad
--
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> From: "Cybe R. Wizard" <Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower>
> Organization: Interdementia-nal Consortium of Wizardly Dudes
> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:59:19 GMT
> Subject: Re: Turkey Day
>
> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 08:57:23 -0600
> Bob Adkins > wrote:
>
>>
>>> Sorry to ask a daft question, but living in the UK, I have no idea
>>> what Thanksgiving Day is all about!
>>>
>>> Could someone please enlighten me?
>>>
>>> Have a good one anyway:-))
>>
>> It's a drunken, uproarious celebration commemorating our freedom from
>> England.
>>
>> No, just kidding! :)
>>
>> To most Americans, Thanksgiving is a chance to offer thanks for the
>> bounty of our land, and for our family, friends, and health. It's our
>> second most important holiday, after Christmas.
>>
>> Bob
>
> Bite your tongue! The most important is July 4.
> More important that all the rest together.
>
> Cybe R. Wizard
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all this stuff out in the stores just puts me right off shopping (not that I need
much of a push as I hate shopping). every year they hype how wonderful sales are
doing then after they say what a disaster. on the news they say people spend average
of 1800 per person to make everyone feel cheap? but I dont spend more than $300 on
gifts for friends and family. this year they qualify that with people buying things
for the house, etc. so I guess any money spent between halloween and Xmas counts?
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Before Thanksgiving!!! We were seeing it before Halloween!!!!

PlainBill

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:49:10 -0600, Bob Adkins >
wrote:

>On 28 Nov 2003 18:01:45 GMT, (Ka30P) wrote:
>
>>
>>Thanksgiving can sometimes
>>be mistaken for *Christmas Part One*
>>at least by retail establishments.
>
>Oh man, there was really a massive push to kick off Christmas early this
>year. It really annoys me to see Christmas stuff in the stores before
>Thanksgiving.
>
>Bob

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>Before Thanksgiving!!! We were seeing it before Halloween!!!!
>PlainBill

What amazes me is how unCapitalized Thanksgiving is. Aisles are given to
Halloween, decor, costumes and candy, no sooner is it over than Xmas moves
in and one has to really hunt to find something turkeyish. I've yet to find
a safe yet decorative candle holder for Thanksgiving that I like.... course
I shop the cheaper shops.... oh wait, I hardly shop anymore except for
essentials. ;o)

Looking forward to Xmas anyway. Even have the guys putting the lights up on
the outside today (so they've promised) I shouldn't say anything till it
happens. ~ jan
See my ponds thru the seasons and/or my filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Defrosted~
Tri-Cities, WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website

[tdreeves]

Boy I'm really cheap, all our friends and family draw names at Thanksgiving
and we set a $10 to $15 dollar limit for Christmas gifts. It's more just a
fun thing rather than who can out spend the other. Of course Santa comes to
the little ones. Kc
> wrote in message
...
> all this stuff out in the stores just puts me right off shopping (not that
I need
> much of a push as I hate shopping). every year they hype how wonderful
sales are
> doing then after they say what a disaster. on the news they say people
spend average
> of 1800 per person to make everyone feel cheap? but I dont spend more
than $300 on
> gifts for friends and family. this year they qualify that with people
buying things
> for the house, etc. so I guess any money spent between halloween and Xmas
counts?
> Ingrid
>
>
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[mad]

i glad 'they' keep thanksgiving down to a dull roar, so to speak. but. a
friend of mine has a gift shop and she sells rhinestone costume jewelry
pins. i have bought most of the angels, christmas trees, a santa and a star.
this year she had a witch and a ghost, which i also got. i wanted a turkey
pin and the supplier didn't have one. i have a plastic hallmark turkey pin
that i've had for years and its the only decent thanksgiving pin i have
found.
then, there are the beanie baby turkeys--5 of them so far and nary a pilgrim
in sight!
mad
--
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themselves."
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> From: ~ jan JJsPond.us >
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> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 11:50:57 -0800
> Subject: Re: Turkey Day
>
>> Before Thanksgiving!!! We were seeing it before Halloween!!!!
>> PlainBill
>
> What amazes me is how unCapitalized Thanksgiving is. Aisles are given to
> Halloween, decor, costumes and candy, no sooner is it over than Xmas moves
> in and one has to really hunt to find something turkeyish. I've yet to find
> a safe yet decorative candle holder for Thanksgiving that I like.... course
> I shop the cheaper shops.... oh wait, I hardly shop anymore except for
> essentials. ;o)
>
> Looking forward to Xmas anyway. Even have the guys putting the lights up on
> the outside today (so they've promised) I shouldn't say anything till it
> happens. ~ jan
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> http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Defrosted~
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[mad]

my family decided to do this just this year, AFTER i have spent all year
gathering up presents for everyone. i'm going to give everyone their gifts
anyway. they can all go jump in the spiral honey-glazed christmas ham if
they don't like it. :-D i like doing it.
mad
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original shape.
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> From: "tdreeves" >
> Organization: Cox Communications
> Newsgroups: rec.ponds
> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2003 13:11:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: Turkey Day
>
> Boy I'm really cheap, all our friends and family draw names at Thanksgiving
> and we set a $10 to $15 dollar limit for Christmas gifts. It's more just a
> fun thing rather than who can out spend the other. Of course Santa comes to
> the little ones. Kc
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> all this stuff out in the stores just puts me right off shopping (not that
> I need
>> much of a push as I hate shopping). every year they hype how wonderful
> sales are
>> doing then after they say what a disaster. on the news they say people
> spend average
>> of 1800 per person to make everyone feel cheap? but I dont spend more
> than $300 on
>> gifts for friends and family. this year they qualify that with people
> buying things
>> for the house, etc. so I guess any money spent between halloween and Xmas
> counts?
>> Ingrid
>>
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[Ka30P]

Dear daughter and I just did the lights.
Hard to tell how we did until it gets dark
out and we can see our artistic effort!
But who can turn down the opportunity
of 50 degree weather!


ka30p
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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 14:54:16 -0600, mad > wrote:

>i glad 'they' keep thanksgiving down to a dull roar, so to speak.

I definitely am shopping the wrong stores, Thanksgiving is more a peep, not
even a gobble, nothing even close to a dull roar. ;o)

I'm about ready to faint, my guys are actually DOING the lights. My hubby
has rarely helped, and my son has even begged off the last couple of years.
I getting good bang for the omelettes I cooked them this morning. ;o) ~ jan



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[THE Old Man]

On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 03:45:40 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
<Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 19:50:31 -0600
>Bob Adkins > wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 14:59:19 GMT, "Cybe R. Wizard"
>> <Cybe_R_Wizard@WizardsTower> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >Bite your tongue! The most important is July 4.
>> >More important that all the rest together.
>>
>> Hey, I agree! I was just stating the amount of preparation and
>> celebrating that goes into each by the average American.
>>
>> Bob
>
>Too right. Before long the Fourth will only be known as the time
>Christmas stuff comes out in the stores. ;-}
>
>Cybe R. Wizard

I worked for a finance company in Dallas back in the mid 60s and we
had a GREAT BIG AD CAMPAIGN = CHRISTMAS IN JULY. This was to lend
money to people to pay for last Christmas or to shop ahead for next
Christmas. Sometimes you still see some ads from various stores about
Christmas in July. BAH HUMBUG!!!

:)