Paging Nedra!

[Lee B.]

OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just around the
corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my lotus
because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it started
growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE Spring gets
sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a 15-20
gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand the dirt
and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I try
to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the tubers,
and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???

Thanks!
Lee

[GrannyGrump]

I'm not Nedra, but thought you might like to see this page on
repotting water lilies.

>and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I try
>to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the tubers,
>and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???

http://loricase.com/ponds/repot.html

Lori

[Nedra]

Hi Lee!

I missed last year in dividing my lotus too. Here is what I do:

Pull the pot out of the pond or wherever it is.
Turn the pot upside down and Thump on the bottom. Pot will
empty and put the growing part of the lotus on the top.
This will put the growing part on the top. You'll see lots of old
tubers/roots growing around
the inside of the pot.
Just get ahold of the tuber and cut it down to size. You may
end up with three or four new tubers to plant. Take care not to disturb the
growing points. Then carefully place the tuber in the pot
which you have filled with new garden soil. I have put two new
tubers in a single pot. Fertilize with four or so tabs ... take care
to keep them away from the new tubers.
Don't plant the tubers too deep. An inch or so of soil over the
top is plenty! I have placed a flat rock on top of the tuber ... when
it has refused to be buried.

Slide the newly planted pot into the 50 gal container. That's all
there is to it.

Let me know how it goes....

Nedra - - iced and snowed in - in Missouri
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just around the
> corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my lotus
> because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it started
> growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE Spring gets
> sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a 15-20
> gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand the dirt
> and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I
try
> to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
tubers,
> and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
>
> Thanks!
> Lee
>
>

[Lee B.]

That sounds easy enough! What I was planning on doing is using the 50
gallon pondlet as a pot: I will have an earth berm alongside the semi-buried
tank in the back yard, and will counter-sink the pot in the berm, next to
the pond. I don't want plants in with the fish, but I want the plants close
by. I'm going to countersink my "original" pond (a pre-form) on the other
side and fill it with lilies. In other words, I will have a water garden on
either side of my koi pond. I figured I'd just separate the tubers and plant
them all in that 50 gallon pot. Is that "do-able"?

Sorry 'bout your snow and ice. Two days ago we had a high of 78; tomorrow
morning may have frost. Our weather is weird, too.
Lee


"Nedra" > wrote in message
link.net...
> Hi Lee!
>
> I missed last year in dividing my lotus too. Here is what I do:
>
> Pull the pot out of the pond or wherever it is.
> Turn the pot upside down and Thump on the bottom. Pot will
> empty and put the growing part of the lotus on the top.
> This will put the growing part on the top. You'll see lots of old
> tubers/roots growing around
> the inside of the pot.
> Just get ahold of the tuber and cut it down to size. You may
> end up with three or four new tubers to plant. Take care not to disturb
the
> growing points. Then carefully place the tuber in the pot
> which you have filled with new garden soil. I have put two new
> tubers in a single pot. Fertilize with four or so tabs ... take care
> to keep them away from the new tubers.
> Don't plant the tubers too deep. An inch or so of soil over the
> top is plenty! I have placed a flat rock on top of the tuber ... when
> it has refused to be buried.
>
> Slide the newly planted pot into the 50 gal container. That's all
> there is to it.
>
> Let me know how it goes....
>
> Nedra - - iced and snowed in - in Missouri
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just around the
> > corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my lotus
> > because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it started
> > growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE Spring
gets
> > sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a 15-20
> > gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand the
dirt
> > and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I
> try
> > to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
> tubers,
> > and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Lee
> >
> >
>
>

[Lee B.]

Thanks! I don't have any lilies at the moment - gave them all away last
year, but I miss them and will get some more for this year. Very useful
link: I do better with pictures than words . . .

Lee

"GrannyGrump" > wrote in message
...
>
> I'm not Nedra, but thought you might like to see this page on
> repotting water lilies.
>
> >and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I
try
> >to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
tubers,
> >and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
>
> http://loricase.com/ponds/repot.html
>
> Lori

[Nedra]

It sounds do-able...and very pretty. Am wondering if you'll have water over
the tops of the tubers? And you say you do better with
pictures - LOL so do I, obviously.

Just came inside from brrrr cold ice bound pond.... Had to cut away the
net. A mourning dove was captured underneath the net.
It flew soon as it was free to do so.
Such a pretty bird.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> That sounds easy enough! What I was planning on doing is using the 50
> gallon pondlet as a pot: I will have an earth berm alongside the
semi-buried
> tank in the back yard, and will counter-sink the pot in the berm, next to
> the pond. I don't want plants in with the fish, but I want the plants
close
> by. I'm going to countersink my "original" pond (a pre-form) on the other
> side and fill it with lilies. In other words, I will have a water garden
on
> either side of my koi pond. I figured I'd just separate the tubers and
plant
> them all in that 50 gallon pot. Is that "do-able"?
>
> Sorry 'bout your snow and ice. Two days ago we had a high of 78; tomorrow
> morning may have frost. Our weather is weird, too.
> Lee
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > Hi Lee!
> >
> > I missed last year in dividing my lotus too. Here is what I do:
> >
> > Pull the pot out of the pond or wherever it is.
> > Turn the pot upside down and Thump on the bottom. Pot will
> > empty and put the growing part of the lotus on the top.
> > This will put the growing part on the top. You'll see lots of old
> > tubers/roots growing around
> > the inside of the pot.
> > Just get ahold of the tuber and cut it down to size. You may
> > end up with three or four new tubers to plant. Take care not to disturb
> the
> > growing points. Then carefully place the tuber in the pot
> > which you have filled with new garden soil. I have put two new
> > tubers in a single pot. Fertilize with four or so tabs ... take care
> > to keep them away from the new tubers.
> > Don't plant the tubers too deep. An inch or so of soil over the
> > top is plenty! I have placed a flat rock on top of the tuber ... when
> > it has refused to be buried.
> >
> > Slide the newly planted pot into the 50 gal container. That's all
> > there is to it.
> >
> > Let me know how it goes....
> >
> > Nedra - - iced and snowed in - in Missouri
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Lee B." > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just around
the
> > > corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my
lotus
> > > because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it started
> > > growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE Spring
> gets
> > > sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a
15-20
> > > gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand the
> dirt
> > > and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should
I
> > try
> > > to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
> > tubers,
> > > and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

As with Lee, so it is with me, Lori.
Wish I had some pics of the dividing
process for lotus. Does anyone have the instructions from
The Plant Place? Roxanne's pictures are so easy to follow.
I have them printed out somewhere .......

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> Thanks! I don't have any lilies at the moment - gave them all away last
> year, but I miss them and will get some more for this year. Very useful
> link: I do better with pictures than words . . .
>
> Lee
>
> "GrannyGrump" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > I'm not Nedra, but thought you might like to see this page on
> > repotting water lilies.
> >
> > >and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot? Should I
> try
> > >to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
> tubers,
> > >and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
> >
> > http://loricase.com/ponds/repot.html
> >
> > Lori
>
>

[Lee B.]

I plan on 8-10 inches of water on top of the dirt. Is that enough or should
I plan on more?

I used to have a "pet" mourning dove where we used to have the office. I put
up a bird feeder in one of the trees and would refill it every day, throwing
some on the ground for the doves. The squirrels got to the point that they
knew my car (REALLY!), so that even if I showed up on the weekends, they
would come bounding across the street to see me. They'd take peanuts from my
hand . . . at any rate, this one little dove was so friendly she'd land on
my head. Gave me quite a start the first time. I began to feel like that
garden statue of St. Francis of Assisi . . .Then one day she didn't show up
.. . . I know she was wild, but it hurt all the same.

Lee

"Nedra" > wrote in message
.net...
> It sounds do-able...and very pretty. Am wondering if you'll have water
over
> the tops of the tubers? And you say you do better with
> pictures - LOL so do I, obviously.
>
> Just came inside from brrrr cold ice bound pond.... Had to cut away the
> net. A mourning dove was captured underneath the net.
> It flew soon as it was free to do so.
> Such a pretty bird.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > That sounds easy enough! What I was planning on doing is using the 50
> > gallon pondlet as a pot: I will have an earth berm alongside the
> semi-buried
> > tank in the back yard, and will counter-sink the pot in the berm, next
to
> > the pond. I don't want plants in with the fish, but I want the plants
> close
> > by. I'm going to countersink my "original" pond (a pre-form) on the
other
> > side and fill it with lilies. In other words, I will have a water
garden
> on
> > either side of my koi pond. I figured I'd just separate the tubers and
> plant
> > them all in that 50 gallon pot. Is that "do-able"?
> >
> > Sorry 'bout your snow and ice. Two days ago we had a high of 78;
tomorrow
> > morning may have frost. Our weather is weird, too.
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > link.net...
> > > Hi Lee!
> > >
> > > I missed last year in dividing my lotus too. Here is what I do:
> > >
> > > Pull the pot out of the pond or wherever it is.
> > > Turn the pot upside down and Thump on the bottom. Pot will
> > > empty and put the growing part of the lotus on the top.
> > > This will put the growing part on the top. You'll see lots of old
> > > tubers/roots growing around
> > > the inside of the pot.
> > > Just get ahold of the tuber and cut it down to size. You may
> > > end up with three or four new tubers to plant. Take care not to
disturb
> > the
> > > growing points. Then carefully place the tuber in the pot
> > > which you have filled with new garden soil. I have put two new
> > > tubers in a single pot. Fertilize with four or so tabs ... take care
> > > to keep them away from the new tubers.
> > > Don't plant the tubers too deep. An inch or so of soil over the
> > > top is plenty! I have placed a flat rock on top of the tuber ... when
> > > it has refused to be buried.
> > >
> > > Slide the newly planted pot into the 50 gal container. That's all
> > > there is to it.
> > >
> > > Let me know how it goes....
> > >
> > > Nedra - - iced and snowed in - in Missouri
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > >
> > > "Lee B." > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just around
> the
> > > > corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my
> lotus
> > > > because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it
started
> > > > growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE
Spring
> > gets
> > > > sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a
> 15-20
> > > > gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand
the
> > dirt
> > > > and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot?
Should
> I
> > > try
> > > > to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing the
> > > tubers,
> > > > and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Lee
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

That will be plenty of water, Lee. Mine only have about 5 or 6
inches water over the dirt. Depends alot on how hot it gets. Just
so they aren't too deep.

Your pet mourning dove sounds soooo lovely. I know it did
hurt when she failed to show up :(
I've been wondering how I could tame one... it would have to
do the selecting. I have a huge flock that stays by the lotus
pond all year long.
The squirrels are such a hoot - they know as soon as I open
the door to skoot away from the bird feeders.
I have squirrel feeders all
over but they would rather have bird seed.. lol

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> I plan on 8-10 inches of water on top of the dirt. Is that enough or
should
> I plan on more?
>
> I used to have a "pet" mourning dove where we used to have the office. I
put
> up a bird feeder in one of the trees and would refill it every day,
throwing
> some on the ground for the doves. The squirrels got to the point that they
> knew my car (REALLY!), so that even if I showed up on the weekends, they
> would come bounding across the street to see me. They'd take peanuts from
my
> hand . . . at any rate, this one little dove was so friendly she'd land on
> my head. Gave me quite a start the first time. I began to feel like that
> garden statue of St. Francis of Assisi . . .Then one day she didn't show
up
> . . . I know she was wild, but it hurt all the same.
>
> Lee
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> .net...
> > It sounds do-able...and very pretty. Am wondering if you'll have water
> over
> > the tops of the tubers? And you say you do better with
> > pictures - LOL so do I, obviously.
> >
> > Just came inside from brrrr cold ice bound pond.... Had to cut away the
> > net. A mourning dove was captured underneath the net.
> > It flew soon as it was free to do so.
> > Such a pretty bird.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Lee B." > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > That sounds easy enough! What I was planning on doing is using the 50
> > > gallon pondlet as a pot: I will have an earth berm alongside the
> > semi-buried
> > > tank in the back yard, and will counter-sink the pot in the berm, next
> to
> > > the pond. I don't want plants in with the fish, but I want the plants
> > close
> > > by. I'm going to countersink my "original" pond (a pre-form) on the
> other
> > > side and fill it with lilies. In other words, I will have a water
> garden
> > on
> > > either side of my koi pond. I figured I'd just separate the tubers and
> > plant
> > > them all in that 50 gallon pot. Is that "do-able"?
> > >
> > > Sorry 'bout your snow and ice. Two days ago we had a high of 78;
> tomorrow
> > > morning may have frost. Our weather is weird, too.
> > > Lee
> > >
> > >
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > link.net...
> > > > Hi Lee!
> > > >
> > > > I missed last year in dividing my lotus too. Here is what I do:
> > > >
> > > > Pull the pot out of the pond or wherever it is.
> > > > Turn the pot upside down and Thump on the bottom. Pot will
> > > > empty and put the growing part of the lotus on the top.
> > > > This will put the growing part on the top. You'll see lots of old
> > > > tubers/roots growing around
> > > > the inside of the pot.
> > > > Just get ahold of the tuber and cut it down to size. You may
> > > > end up with three or four new tubers to plant. Take care not to
> disturb
> > > the
> > > > growing points. Then carefully place the tuber in the pot
> > > > which you have filled with new garden soil. I have put two new
> > > > tubers in a single pot. Fertilize with four or so tabs ... take
care
> > > > to keep them away from the new tubers.
> > > > Don't plant the tubers too deep. An inch or so of soil over the
> > > > top is plenty! I have placed a flat rock on top of the tuber ...
when
> > > > it has refused to be buried.
> > > >
> > > > Slide the newly planted pot into the 50 gal container. That's all
> > > > there is to it.
> > > >
> > > > Let me know how it goes....
> > > >
> > > > Nedra - - iced and snowed in - in Missouri
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > >
> > > > "Lee B." > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > OK, while most of you are still dreaming of Spring, it's just
around
> > the
> > > > > corner for me. Last year I missed the opportunity to transplant my
> > lotus
> > > > > because I went from Winter to Spring in about 3 weeks, and it
> started
> > > > > growing again before I could transplant it. This year - BEFORE
> Spring
> > > gets
> > > > > sprung, I want to accomplish that chore. It currently resides in a
> > 15-20
> > > > > gal. pot; I have a 50 gal. pot in which to place it. I understand
> the
> > > dirt
> > > > > and fertilizer part (I think <G>), but what about the old pot?
> Should
> > I
> > > > try
> > > > > to move it in one piece, or should I wash the dirt out, exposing
the
> > > > tubers,
> > > > > and then transplant those to the larger pot? What's the process???
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Lee
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> That will be plenty of water, Lee. Mine only have about 5 or 6
> inches water over the dirt. Depends alot on how hot it gets. Just
> so they aren't too deep.
<snip>

Of course I must chime in and post the anomoly that is my lotus. It was
quite healthy this year despite my dog-in-law jumping in and crushing the
aerials. This plant was planted in about 4-6 inches of mud from the yard,
and sunk close to 4 feet down.

http://tinyurl.com/2t4dk

BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

LOL!
BK your post proves the exception.
Your lotus is gorgeous!!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > That will be plenty of water, Lee. Mine only have about 5 or 6
> > inches water over the dirt. Depends alot on how hot it gets. Just
> > so they aren't too deep.
> <snip>
>
> Of course I must chime in and post the anomoly that is my lotus. It was
> quite healthy this year despite my dog-in-law jumping in and crushing the
> aerials. This plant was planted in about 4-6 inches of mud from the yard,
> and sunk close to 4 feet down.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2t4dk
>
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>

[john rutz]

Nedra wrote:
> That will be plenty of water, Lee. Mine only have about 5 or 6
> inches water over the dirt. Depends alot on how hot it gets. Just
> so they aren't too deep.
>
> Your pet mourning dove sounds soooo lovely. I know it did
> hurt when she failed to show up :(
> I've been wondering how I could tame one... it would have to
> do the selecting. I have a huge flock that stays by the lotus
> pond all year long.
> The squirrels are such a hoot - they know as soon as I open
> the door to skoot away from the bird feeders.
> I have squirrel feeders all
> over but they would rather have bird seed.. lol
>
> Nedra
> .
ahhhh this brings back memories,,, waaaaay back when I was about 9 or
10 A wild burrowing owl used to hang around the house, after a while I
had it comming to me for bits of meat this lasted all summer, it never
came back the next spring

John Rutz

[Ka30P]

Nedra wrote >>> The squirrels are such a hoot<<

Our squirrel is now so bold that he sits in
the bird feeder chowing down on sun flower
seeds while the labrador girls fling themselves
at the sliding glass door barking and hollering
at him and he doesn't turn a hair as he knows
they can't get at him and I won't let them out
until he's back in the fir tree.


kathy 30acre :-)
<A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>

[Nedra]

LOLOLOL!!! Kathy you do have a wonderfully funny
way with words. I can just see the scene at your house :O)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Ka30P" > wrote in message
...
>
> Nedra wrote >>> The squirrels are such a hoot<<
>
> Our squirrel is now so bold that he sits in
> the bird feeder chowing down on sun flower
> seeds while the labrador girls fling themselves
> at the sliding glass door barking and hollering
> at him and he doesn't turn a hair as he knows
> they can't get at him and I won't let them out
> until he's back in the fir tree.
>
>
> kathy 30acre :-)
> <A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

I have a squirrel feeder that the squirrels are suppose to open from the
top and reach in to take the food out. It has a plexiglass front so I can
see the food level. One windy day one of the littler squirrels figured out
he could just jump in and close the door, yet watch for anything suspicious
thru the glass. Pretty amusing. ~ jan

>
>Nedra wrote >>> The squirrels are such a hoot<<
>
>Our squirrel is now so bold that he sits in
>the bird feeder chowing down on sun flower
>seeds while the labrador girls fling themselves
>at the sliding glass door barking and hollering
>at him and he doesn't turn a hair as he knows
>they can't get at him and I won't let them out
>until he's back in the fir tree.
>
>
>kathy 30acre :-)
><A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>