Nymphaea lotus low temperature

[Charles]

I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.

What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
to recover when the water warms again?
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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

[Nedra]

Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
freeze.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> I've done the web search and it looks like everybody read the same
> book regarding this plant, but didn't tell me what I wanted to know.
>
> What is the temperature that the plant will survive in a dormant state
> to recover when the water warms again?
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[Charles]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
>The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
>freeze.
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118


Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
plant as well as a pond plant.
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- Charles
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[Nedra]

Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
but typically I plowed on ;-)

A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
each year here in zone 6.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra" >
> wrote:
>
> >Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
> >The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
> >freeze.
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>
> Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
> name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
> plant as well as a pond plant.
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[Charles]

It is rather confusing.

According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)

The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
temperature, or maybe it is the same?

Thanks



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:59:21 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
>I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
>but typically I plowed on ;-)
>
>A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
>each year here in zone 6.
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>"Charles" > wrote in message
...
>> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra" >
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
>> >The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
>> >freeze.
>> >
>> >Nedra
>> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>>
>>
>> Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
>> name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
>> plant as well as a pond plant.
>> --
>>
>> - Charles
>> -
>> -does not play well with others
>

--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

[Nedra]

56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
and snow have covered my pond. We have more
ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
moderate.
Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.

Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
I don't know for sure.
Are you in Florida?

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> It is rather confusing.
>
> According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
> this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)
>
> The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
> for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
> temperature, or maybe it is the same?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 03:59:21 GMT, "Nedra" >
> wrote:
>
> >Oh Boy .. Is my face ever red. Thanks for the correction.
> >I knew something didn't seem right in the first LATIN word
> >but typically I plowed on ;-)
> >
> >A tropical waterlily does have to be taken inside or replaced
> >each year here in zone 6.
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> >"Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 21:06:56 GMT, "Nedra" >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Is your lotus a hardy one? If so, it should winter over in Zone 4.
> >> >The only thing you have to worry about is Not to let the tuber
> >> >freeze.
> >> >
> >> >Nedra
> >> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually Nymphaea lotus is a waterlily, not a lotus, that's just its
> >> name. It is a tropical night-bloomer. It is used as an aquarium
> >> plant as well as a pond plant.
> >> --
> >>
> >> - Charles
> >> -
> >> -does not play well with others
> >
>
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[Charles]

I'm still looking for info on the plants.

I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
welcome to my share.

<:-)



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
>and snow have covered my pond. We have more
>ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
>moderate.
>Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.
>
>Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
>that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
>I don't know for sure.
>Are you in Florida?
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>

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- Charles
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-does not play well with others

[Nedra]

I adore the cold weather - so, I'll take your share, thanks!
Sorry I can't help you on the plants.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> I'm still looking for info on the plants.
>
> I'm is So. Calif. This is the second year that it hasn't gotten cold
> here, I still have impatiens in the ground that were planted in 2002.
> I don't like cold, ice and snow. I know some people do, and they are
> welcome to my share.
>
> <:-)
>
>
>
> On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 10:50:34 GMT, "Nedra" >
> wrote:
>
> >56 degrees ... I remember those days. Actually the ice storms
> >and snow have covered my pond. We have more
> >ice 'n snow expected this afternoon - but our temps are supposed to
> >moderate.
> >Thank Heavens for the De-Icer.
> >
> >Did you figure out the temps for your tropical lily? It seems
> >that zone 10 should really be fine to keep it alive ... but
> >I don't know for sure.
> >Are you in Florida?
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
>
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

From my experience it depends on the tropical.

I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
fazed.

Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan

See my lily pond:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/

~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website


>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles > wrote:

>It is rather confusing.
>
>According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
>this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)
>
>The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
>for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
>temperature, or maybe it is the same?

[Charles]

One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'

I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
it blooms I can get a better idea.



On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>From my experience it depends on the tropical.
>
>I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
>with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
>62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
>not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
>one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
>and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
>fazed.
>
>Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan
>
>See my lily pond:
>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>
> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
> To e-mail see website
>
>
>>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles > wrote:
>
>>It is rather confusing.
>>
>>According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
>>this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)
>>
>>The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
>>for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
>>temperature, or maybe it is the same?

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- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan

>On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 04:32:22 GMT, Charles > wrote:

>One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
>'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'
>
>I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
>am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
>it blooms I can get a better idea.
>
>
>
>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:47:17 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:
>
>>From my experience it depends on the tropical.
>>
>>I bring my tropical water lilies inside (Zone 7), so far I've had good luck
>>with Albert Greenburg, Evelyn Randig and Red Flare wintering well in
>>62-65F. Last year I tried Dauben, Tina and Wood's White Knight and they did
>>not come back. This year I put a heater in set at 70F, hoping the newest
>>one, Blue Capensis, would suvive. It was looking good till we lost power
>>and my little indoor pond dropped to 55*F. Albert, Evelyn & Red were not
>>fazed.
>>
>>Do you know the common name for your T.lily? ~ jan
>>
>>See my lily pond:
>>http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
>>
>> ~Keep 'em Wet!~
>> Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
>> To e-mail see website
>>
>>
>>>On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 04:42:32 GMT, Charles > wrote:
>>
>>>It is rather confusing.
>>>
>>>According to the web site I am in zone 8-10, a lot of help. Probably
>>>this year it would count as 10, my pond temp is 56 F. (rub it in?)
>>>
>>>The books and web sites I have found discuss temperatures about 70 F
>>>for growing conditions, what I hope to find is the survival
>>>temperature, or maybe it is the same?

[adavisus]

Charles > wrote in message >...
> One book says the N. 'Juno' is considered to be N. lotus, and that N.
> 'Trudy Slocum' is a selection of 'Juno.'
>
> I am getting a bit less sure of the identification as I look more, I
> am sure it is a Nymphaea, but it could be N. maculata. Maybe when/if
> it blooms I can get a better idea.
>

In north carolina, supposedly zone 8 every tropical water lily left
out has been dead and gone when the water temperatures get to lower
than 50°f. Pond water temperatures dont get lower than 40°f but by
then the tropicals have long gone...

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html

[Charles]

On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 14:24:03 -0800, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>Does it still have leaves at the crown? ~ jan
>
Not sure I understand this. I am presently growing the plants in
tropical aquariums, and they are doing well. I am thinking to add
them to the pond and want to know how warm the water must be before I
do that. The pond has been running about 56F lately, but cold could
still come to visit. I don't remember if I mentioned it, these plants
are sold as dry tubers in the Wal-Mark aquarium section, they hang on
pegs with the artificial plants. They are also selling dry aponegeton
tubers.


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- Charles
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