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[KenCo]

located in Warwick R.I.

Divorce sale, I gotta move.
all prices listed are for 1 of each item
cash only, no C.C.'s

this stuff must go, Im still in buss. but cant
take these items w/ me! :(


1/8 HP Dayton (gast?) blower $125.00 good cond.


pickup only on tanks
qty / desc.
25 or so 10 gal tanks, $4 ea
4-5 15 gal $8 ea.
3-4 40 gal breeder $40 ea.
1 30 gal breeder $30 ea.

Rubbermaid stock tanks
1 70 gal $40
2 100 gal $60
1 150 gal $100








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[Nedra]

I feel awfully bad for you Ken.... Terrible injustice if anyone
asks me :(

Nedra
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"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
>
> located in Warwick R.I.
>
> Divorce sale, I gotta move.
> all prices listed are for 1 of each item
> cash only, no C.C.'s
>
> this stuff must go, Im still in buss. but cant
> take these items w/ me! :(
>
>
> 1/8 HP Dayton (gast?) blower $125.00 good cond.
>
>
> pickup only on tanks
> qty / desc.
> 25 or so 10 gal tanks, $4 ea
> 4-5 15 gal $8 ea.
> 3-4 40 gal breeder $40 ea.
> 1 30 gal breeder $30 ea.
>
> Rubbermaid stock tanks
> 1 70 gal $40
> 2 100 gal $60
> 1 150 gal $100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
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[KenCo]

Nedra wrote:

> I feel awfully bad for you Ken.... Terrible injustice if anyone
> asks me :(

thanks! :)

her Moms one of the heads of DCYF, I didnt
stand a chance in crooked RI but I do have
multi. complaints against all of them.




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[Nedra]

Well, we can hope that you will have Your Day!!
You are one of the most Honest business men I have
ever known. This trait doesn't get turned off and on like a
faucet. I've done business with you and I Know! Really
angers me.

What does DCYF represent?

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"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
> Nedra wrote:
>
> > I feel awfully bad for you Ken.... Terrible injustice if anyone
> > asks me :(
>
> thanks! :)
>
> her Moms one of the heads of DCYF, I didnt
> stand a chance in crooked RI but I do have
> multi. complaints against all of them.
>
>
>
>
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[KenCo]

Nedra wrote:

> Well, we can hope that you will have Your Day!!

I am gonna!, but "I cant" talk much about it yet
as its in "out of court litigation" at this time
on the other matters that caused the breakup.

If someone else who knows the story were to post,
then it would be a diff. story.....



> You are one of the most Honest business men I have
> ever known. This trait doesn't get turned off and on like a
> faucet. I've done business with you and I Know! Really
> angers me.

aww, shucks :)


> What does DCYF represent?



"Dept. of Children Youths and Families"
ya know, the semi nazis w/ Family court
to protect mostly rotten kids lol

Im still in buss., I just cant take all this w/ me.



> Nedra
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[Nedra]

I'm super-glad that your day will come!

I was afraid it had something to do with Dept. of Children.
Damned ole fools! I hate most women (feminists)
and this is why.

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"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
> Nedra wrote:
>
> > Well, we can hope that you will have Your Day!!
>
> I am gonna!, but "I cant" talk much about it yet
> as its in "out of court litigation" at this time
> on the other matters that caused the breakup.
>
> If someone else who knows the story were to post,
> then it would be a diff. story.....
>
>
>
> > You are one of the most Honest business men I have
> > ever known. This trait doesn't get turned off and on like a
> > faucet. I've done business with you and I Know! Really
> > angers me.
>
> aww, shucks :)
>
>
> > What does DCYF represent?
>
>
>
> "Dept. of Children Youths and Families"
> ya know, the semi nazis w/ Family court
> to protect mostly rotten kids lol
>
> Im still in buss., I just cant take all this w/ me.
>
>
>
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
>
>
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[Just Me \Koi\]

I absolutely feel for you.

Dude, I live in California and went through Divorce! Every year I file my
tax papers, and have to send copies to my ex-wife's attorney!

All I can tell you is this: No matter how bad it looks now, it will
definitely get a whole lot better later!

Hang in there, and protect your BALLS, stay a MAN!

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"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
>
> located in Warwick R.I.
>
> Divorce sale, I gotta move.
> all prices listed are for 1 of each item
> cash only, no C.C.'s
>
> this stuff must go, Im still in buss. but cant
> take these items w/ me! :(
>
>
> 1/8 HP Dayton (gast?) blower $125.00 good cond.
>
>
> pickup only on tanks
> qty / desc.
> 25 or so 10 gal tanks, $4 ea
> 4-5 15 gal $8 ea.
> 3-4 40 gal breeder $40 ea.
> 1 30 gal breeder $30 ea.
>
> Rubbermaid stock tanks
> 1 70 gal $40
> 2 100 gal $60
> 1 150 gal $100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> --
> http://www.kencofish.com Ken Arnold,
> 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556
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> Shipping to legal states/countries only!
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>
>
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[john rutz]

Nedra wrote:
> Well, we can hope that you will have Your Day!!
> You are one of the most Honest business men I have
> ever known. This trait doesn't get turned off and on like a
> faucet. I've done business with you and I Know! Really
> angers me.
>
> What does DCYF represent?
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>
>>Linux (SuSE 8.2) user #329121
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>>sending of this contaminant free message We do concede
>>that a signicant number of electrons may have been
>>inconvenienced ;)
>>
>
>
> I second Nedra Keep us posted on how your doing

John Rutz
PS try SuSE 9.0 youll like it

[J.D. Stone]

Sorry it is happening to you, Ken.
JD

"KenCo" > wrote in message
...
>
> located in Warwick R.I.
>
> Divorce sale, I gotta move.
> all prices listed are for 1 of each item
> cash only, no C.C.'s
>
> this stuff must go, Im still in buss. but cant
> take these items w/ me! :(
>
>
> 1/8 HP Dayton (gast?) blower $125.00 good cond.
>
>
> pickup only on tanks
> qty / desc.
> 25 or so 10 gal tanks, $4 ea
> 4-5 15 gal $8 ea.
> 3-4 40 gal breeder $40 ea.
> 1 30 gal breeder $30 ea.
>
> Rubbermaid stock tanks
> 1 70 gal $40
> 2 100 gal $60
> 1 150 gal $100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> --
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> 401-781-9642 cell 401-225-0556
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> Shipping to legal states/countries only!
> Permalon liners, Oase & Supreme Pondmaster pumps
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[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Sorry to hear of your circumstances, Ken. Wish I lived closer to relieve
you of one of those 40 gallon tanks. Keep us posted, we care. ~ jan

>On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 15:29:40 -0500, KenCo > wrote:

>
>located in Warwick R.I.
>
>Divorce sale, I gotta move.
>all prices listed are for 1 of each item
>cash only, no C.C.'s
>
>this stuff must go, Im still in buss. but cant
>take these items w/ me! :(
>
>
>1/8 HP Dayton (gast?) blower $125.00 good cond.
>
>
>pickup only on tanks
>qty / desc.
>25 or so 10 gal tanks, $4 ea
>4-5 15 gal $8 ea.
>3-4 40 gal breeder $40 ea.
>1 30 gal breeder $30 ea.
>
>Rubbermaid stock tanks
>1 70 gal $40
>2 100 gal $60
>1 150 gal $100
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--

~ jan

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I am lucky that way, neither my mother or her mother bought into the "women are weak,
stupid, etc." mythology perpetrated by the patriarchy. Maybe cause they came from
strong sound peasant stock. So by the time I came along and was part of the 60's
battle to obtain more equality for women my mother and grandmother were right behind
me encouraging me and not jealous of all the opportunities that were open to me and
not them. Altho my mother was able to finish her masters and become a social worker,
a not completely menial career even tho it was one of the few open to women. But I
really think the greatest advantage I had was their tolerance of others not like
them. As a result I didnt grow up hating "groups" of people who looked, thought or
felt differently from me. Rather, those people became a source that saw the world
thru different eyes and I found that when I got to share that vision, my life was
enriched.
I am proud that I am third generation feminist. We are strong, useful human beings
who stand up for ourselves, for all humanity and can now contribute to society in the
fullest measure according to our abilities and unlimited by the bonds of slavery,
religion, or patriarchy that our foremothers suffered under for millennium. I am so
happy I met and married my soul mate, a second generation feminist and similarly
unfettered by the bonds of being the "master" so he too can pursue all the rich
offerings and interests of life without being fettered by "roles". Our choice of
each other was not out of need, neither economic nor a need to complete an
incomplete, rather two mature and complete individuals who relished and rejoiced in
our differences. As my DH says, life is never boring. Needless to say, Yentl is
one of my favorite movies. Ingrid

"Nedra" > wrote:
>I was afraid it had something to do with Dept. of Children.
>Damned ole fools! I hate most women (feminists)
>and this is why.


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I'm third generation, too, and I also loved that movie.

wrote:

> I am lucky that way, neither my mother or her mother bought into the "women are weak,
> stupid, etc." mythology perpetrated by the patriarchy. Maybe cause they came from
> strong sound peasant stock. So by the time I came along and was part of the 60's
> battle to obtain more equality for women my mother and grandmother were right behind
> me encouraging me and not jealous of all the opportunities that were open to me and
> not them. Altho my mother was able to finish her masters and become a social worker,
> a not completely menial career even tho it was one of the few open to women. But I
> really think the greatest advantage I had was their tolerance of others not like
> them. As a result I didnt grow up hating "groups" of people who looked, thought or
> felt differently from me. Rather, those people became a source that saw the world
> thru different eyes and I found that when I got to share that vision, my life was
> enriched.
> I am proud that I am third generation feminist. We are strong, useful human beings
> who stand up for ourselves, for all humanity and can now contribute to society in the
> fullest measure according to our abilities and unlimited by the bonds of slavery,
> religion, or patriarchy that our foremothers suffered under for millennium. I am so
> happy I met and married my soul mate, a second generation feminist and similarly
> unfettered by the bonds of being the "master" so he too can pursue all the rich
> offerings and interests of life without being fettered by "roles". Our choice of
> each other was not out of need, neither economic nor a need to complete an
> incomplete, rather two mature and complete individuals who relished and rejoiced in
> our differences. As my DH says, life is never boring. Needless to say, Yentl is
> one of my favorite movies. Ingrid
>
> "Nedra" > wrote:
>
>>I was afraid it had something to do with Dept. of Children.
>>Damned ole fools! I hate most women (feminists)
>>and this is why.
>
>
>
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> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Nedra]

Oh Good Grief, Ingrid!! I don't "hate" in the way you mean
"hate".... let's just say that I dislike the feminist movement.

Nedra
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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

> wrote in message
...
> I am lucky that way, neither my mother or her mother bought into the
"women are weak,
> stupid, etc." mythology perpetrated by the patriarchy. Maybe cause they
came from
> strong sound peasant stock. So by the time I came along and was part of
the 60's
> battle to obtain more equality for women my mother and grandmother were
right behind
> me encouraging me and not jealous of all the opportunities that were open
to me and
> not them. Altho my mother was able to finish her masters and become a
social worker,
> a not completely menial career even tho it was one of the few open to
women. But I
> really think the greatest advantage I had was their tolerance of others
not like
> them. As a result I didnt grow up hating "groups" of people who looked,
thought or
> felt differently from me. Rather, those people became a source that saw
the world
> thru different eyes and I found that when I got to share that vision, my
life was
> enriched.
> I am proud that I am third generation feminist. We are strong, useful
human beings
> who stand up for ourselves, for all humanity and can now contribute to
society in the
> fullest measure according to our abilities and unlimited by the bonds of
slavery,
> religion, or patriarchy that our foremothers suffered under for
millennium. I am so
> happy I met and married my soul mate, a second generation feminist and
similarly
> unfettered by the bonds of being the "master" so he too can pursue all the
rich
> offerings and interests of life without being fettered by "roles". Our
choice of
> each other was not out of need, neither economic nor a need to complete an
> incomplete, rather two mature and complete individuals who relished and
rejoiced in
> our differences. As my DH says, life is never boring. Needless to say,
Yentl is
> one of my favorite movies. Ingrid
>
> "Nedra" > wrote:
> >I was afraid it had something to do with Dept. of Children.
> >Damned ole fools! I hate most women (feminists)
> >and this is why.
>
>
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> endorsements or recommendations I make.

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what in the world is there to dislike about an advocate of the women's rights
movement who's whole purpose is to ensure equal rights for women?
That is like saying you "hate" civil rights cause there are a few whackos out there.
You hate civil rights movement too?
Ingrid

"Nedra" > wrote:

>Oh Good Grief, Ingrid!! I don't "hate" in the way you mean
>"hate".... let's just say that I dislike the feminist movement.



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[BenignVanilla]

> wrote in message
...
> what in the world is there to dislike about an advocate of the women's
rights
> movement who's whole purpose is to ensure equal rights for women?
> That is like saying you "hate" civil rights cause there are a few whackos
out there.
> You hate civil rights movement too?
<snip>

How funny...or irionic I guess. We were just discussing equal rights for
women at lunch. An associate and I were argueing that if women are allowed
to play on the Men's PGA tour, that men should be allowed on the LPGA. You
can imagine the discussion that ensued. And just to be clear, we were
argueing FOR women's rights, and equality, not against.

BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[joe]

Oh, oh. Here we go!


On 2/10/04 8:48 AM, " > wrote:

> what in the world is there to dislike about an advocate of the women's rights
> movement who's whole purpose is to ensure equal rights for women?
> That is like saying you "hate" civil rights cause there are a few whackos out
> there.
> You hate civil rights movement too?
> Ingrid
>
> "Nedra" > wrote:
>
>> Oh Good Grief, Ingrid!! I don't "hate" in the way you mean
>> "hate".... let's just say that I dislike the feminist movement.
>



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[Nedra]

Ingrid knows Exactly where I stand on this issue. We agreed
to disagree years ago... on this very newsgroup. I'm in
the male's corner!
I'm also a Conservative and she is a Liberal
and never the twain shall meet. :)

Nedra
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"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Oh, oh. Here we go!
>
>
> On 2/10/04 8:48 AM, " > wrote:
>
> > what in the world is there to dislike about an advocate of the women's
rights
> > movement who's whole purpose is to ensure equal rights for women?
> > That is like saying you "hate" civil rights cause there are a few
whackos out
> > there.
> > You hate civil rights movement too?
> > Ingrid
> >
> > "Nedra" > wrote:
> >
> >> Oh Good Grief, Ingrid!! I don't "hate" in the way you mean
> >> "hate".... let's just say that I dislike the feminist movement.
> >
>
>
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[Just Me \Koi\]

You whimp! You quickly took the easy way out!
Afraid of the women hey?

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"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message <snip>. And just
to be clear, we were
> argueing FOR women's rights, and equality, not against.
>
> BV.

[BenignVanilla]

"Just Me "Koi"" > wrote in message
...
> You whimp! You quickly took the easy way out!
> Afraid of the women hey?
<snip>

Yes. I am married, so women scare me. I know when I am beat. LOL.

Seriously, in reality we (Another guy and me) argueing the side of equality
with no preference to race, sex, color, religion, hair style, etc. It became
feminist topic because we were discussing the 14 year old girl playing on
the PGA. We simply stated that if the women can play on the "Men's" tour
then the men should be able to play on the "Women's" tour.

I personally do not care what anyone does as long as it does not hurt other
people. Be gay. Be Hetero. Smoke crack. I don't care.

BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Offbreed]

BenignVanilla wrote:

> the PGA. We simply stated that if the women can play on the "Men's" tour
> then the men should be able to play on the "Women's" tour.

LOL. I just *bet* you caught hell for that one <G>.

If a woman cannot handle what a bunch of men are doing in a
traditionally all male setting, the men are supposed to change.

Try saying the above with male/female reversed, and get tarred and
feathered.

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I certainly thought that is what marriage was considering it isnt legal unless you
get the paperwork at city hall, you have people who witness it, there is no
requirement for any kind of religious input and the papers gotta be filed at city
hall. when this legal arrangement is broken one goes to court, not your local
religious institution and in fact, your rabbi or priest can deny the divorce but the
individuals can legally get divorced and when remarried are not committing bigamy in
the eyes of the law.

I think the easiest thing to do is establish a partnership agreement, give it the
identical rights and responsibilities of "marriage" but make the tax bite the same as
two single people see how fast everyone goes for this rather than "marriage".
Ingrid

"BTC/TAK on ACK" > wrote:
Personally I think "a
>legal union with the same rights and responsibilities as marriage" when I
>hear it discussed, and use that terminology when I discuss it... it seems to
>"push peoples' buttons" less, and people seem more open to level-headed
>discussions.
>Mila



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????? you wanna carry babies to term?

Offbreed > wrote:
>Try saying the above with male/female reversed, and get tarred and
>feathered.



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Offbreed > wrote:
>It isn't everywhere. It's a lesbian superiority or female superiority
>movement in some places, especially colleges.

...... so you going to hate all feminists and/or the women's movement cause a few men
or women got weird notions? excuse me, but there are hoards of people belonging to
various religious groups I think got REALLY REALLY weird notions but it isnt like I
am anti-christian. how in the world can what perfect strangers ( a few women at some
college) think about anything twist your shorts? I mean (no disrespect intended)...
if you got time to worry about what some dip****s are thinking about 1000 miles away
I need a new pond dug. I mean are these real people you know think these strange
thoughts or somebody yanking your chain or is this what somebody is telling you to
get em to vote for you or maybe give em some money to fight this kinda thought?

>Double standards are common, and easier to see if you were male.
.... again, are you talking personal experience or quoting what somebody told you? and
do you really know for a fact that any of this is true? the reason I ask this is
there are a lot of people "know" what really happened when that elderly woman sued
McDonalds over spilled hot coffee, but in reality a great urban myth has been
constructed and THE BIG LIE sold to the american public to get em really ****ed off
at personal injury lawyers so it is easier to yank voters chains.
....look, there is my mothers generation that were sold the myth of "get married, have
kids and some man will take care of you", they were kicked outta their jobs after the
war and told to go home and take care of kids, house, husband... they were prevented
from getting any kind of education, dissuaded from thinking about their lives and
careers. So what you wanna do... dump em all on the street and yell "gotcha"?
.... my generation was in transition. some dreamed and worked towards their careers
and others were still being sold the "get married, have kids yadda yadda"
... younger generations (baby boomers kids) the girls gotta know they are going to
work for the rest of their life, no Donna Reed crapola.

... if there is one unequal area it is the draft. Altho we dont have a draft now so
it is a moot point.

> The word of a woman is accepted over a man's (domestic abuse cases, especially).
..... you are expecting justice. That is another myth you have swallowed, the only
justice is what you can pay for and for most of history women and children werent
even "people" so they had no access to justice at all. For how many thousands of
years has it been the RIGHT of men to beat and killed their wives and children?
excuse me.. reality check here. OJ beat and murdered his wife and walked. Most
women arent talking about the beatings they take. It is a horribly under reported
crime just like child beating and abuse.
.... let one man get the shaft and right away it is the case and not the exception.
too bad. Now that we have DNA testing we are finding how many PEOPLE are in jail or
on death row that are INNOCENT. I would say that is a whole lot bigger injustice
than some man paying to take care of some kid. Consider that 75% of men NEVER pay
support for their children after a divorce and THE REST OF THE CITIZENS, men and
women are paying to take care of their kids.

> The average man is a social retard and the average woman
>can fool him most of the time, long enough to get married, anyhow.)
.... uhhhh... now who is making vast generalizations?

>It's no wonder men in California are marriage shy. They are afraid
>they will end up impoverished the rest of their lives.
... there is no reason at all that men cant 1. keep it zipped and/or 2. draw up a
pre-nup before they end up in the sack. Men have this funny idea that they can screw
anything that holds still and there are no consequences cause they been doing it for
thousands of years and never had to pay the consequences. Women, of course, had to
pay all the consequences when they screwed around and got pregnant.

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Offbreed > wrote:
>It isn't everywhere. It's a lesbian superiority or female superiority
>movement in some places, especially colleges.

...... so you going to hate all feminists and/or the women's movement cause a few men
or women got weird notions? excuse me, but there are hoards of people belonging to
various religious groups I think got REALLY REALLY weird notions but it isnt like I
am anti-christian. how in the world can what perfect strangers ( a few women at some
college) think about anything twist your shorts? I mean (no disrespect intended)...
if you got time to worry about what some dip****s are thinking about 1000 miles away
I need a new pond dug. I mean are these real people you know think these strange
thoughts or somebody yanking your chain or is this what somebody is telling you to
get em to vote for you or maybe give em some money to fight this kinda thought?

>Double standards are common, and easier to see if you were male.
.... again, are you talking personal experience or quoting what somebody told you? and
do you really know for a fact that any of this is true? the reason I ask this is
there are a lot of people "know" what really happened when that elderly woman sued
McDonalds over spilled hot coffee, but in reality a great urban myth has been
constructed and THE BIG LIE sold to the american public to get em really ****ed off
at personal injury lawyers so it is easier to yank voters chains.
....look, there is my mothers generation that were sold the myth of "get married, have
kids and some man will take care of you", they were kicked outta their jobs after the
war and told to go home and take care of kids, house, husband... they were prevented
from getting any kind of education, dissuaded from thinking about their lives and
careers. So what you wanna do... dump em all on the street and yell "gotcha"?
.... my generation was in transition. some dreamed and worked towards their careers
and others were still being sold the "get married, have kids yadda yadda"
... younger generations (baby boomers kids) the girls gotta know they are going to
work for the rest of their life, no Donna Reed crapola.

... if there is one unequal area it is the draft. Altho we dont have a draft now so
it is a moot point.

> The word of a woman is accepted over a man's (domestic abuse cases, especially).
..... you are expecting justice. That is another myth you have swallowed, the only
justice is what you can pay for and for most of history women and children werent
even "people" so they had no access to justice at all. For how many thousands of
years has it been the RIGHT of men to beat and killed their wives and children?
excuse me.. reality check here. OJ beat and murdered his wife and walked. Most
women arent talking about the beatings they take. It is a horribly under reported
crime just like child beating and abuse.
.... let one man get the shaft and right away it is the case and not the exception.
too bad. Now that we have DNA testing we are finding how many PEOPLE are in jail or
on death row that are INNOCENT. I would say that is a whole lot bigger injustice
than some man paying to take care of some kid. Consider that 75% of men NEVER pay
support for their children after a divorce and THE REST OF THE CITIZENS, men and
women are paying to take care of their kids.

> The average man is a social retard and the average woman
>can fool him most of the time, long enough to get married, anyhow.)
.... uhhhh... now who is making vast generalizations?

>It's no wonder men in California are marriage shy. They are afraid
>they will end up impoverished the rest of their lives.
... there is no reason at all that men cant 1. keep it zipped and/or 2. draw up a
pre-nup before they end up in the sack. Men have this funny idea that they can screw
anything that holds still and there are no consequences cause they been doing it for
thousands of years and never had to pay the consequences. Women, of course, had to
pay all the consequences when they screwed around and got pregnant.

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[Offbreed]

wrote:

> Offbreed > wrote:
>
>>It isn't everywhere. It's a lesbian superiority or female superiority
>>movement in some places, especially colleges.
>
> so you going to hate all feminists and/or the women's movement cause a few men

What's with the "hate" accusation? I am in favor of *equality*.

And the "strange notions of people 1,000 miles away" are a big pain in
the ass to people living in Alaska, where we have so much federal
land. Bad example on your part. (Idiot "condo conservationists".
Tortoise in California endangered? Add a wildlife refuge, in Alaska.
Swamp mouse endangered in Florida? Add a wildlife refuge, in Alaska.
Elephants endangered in Africa? Add a wildlife refuge, in Alaska.)

Who teaches the children? Teachers.

Where do teachers learn what to teach? College.

So, what's wrong with what they are learning in College?
For starters:
http://studentsforacademicfreedom.org/

You want also cites for teachers dumping on male students, every bit
as bad and unjust as the way male teachers dumped on female students?

Does the latter justify the former? Equality or retribution?

>>Double standards are common, and easier to see if you were male.
>
> again, are you talking personal experience or quoting what somebody told you?

Oh, yes, personal experience. Especially when I lived in Juneau,
Alaska and attended college there. As I said "easier to see if you
were male".

>>The word of a woman is accepted over a man's (domestic abuse cases, especially).
>
> .... you are expecting justice. That is another myth you have swallowed, the only
> justice is what you can pay for and for most of history women and children werent

So, do you want equal treatment, justice, or a chance at retribution
against an entire (uhm?) ethnic group?

>>The average man is a social retard and the average woman
>>can fool him most of the time, long enough to get married, anyhow.)
>
> ... uhhhh... now who is making vast generalizations?

Have you been keeping up with recent research on the subject of
differences in male/female brains and minds? Generally, women and
homosexual men have superior social skills.

>>It's no wonder men in California are marriage shy. They are afraid
>>they will end up impoverished the rest of their lives.
>
> .. there is no reason at all that men cant 1. keep it zipped

<G> They are, or else playing the "sexual liberation" game so they can
get laid without getting married. And this means there is an excess of
single women over 30 who want to settle down, and cannot find anyone
to marry.

> and/or 2. draw up a pre-nup before they end up in the sack.

Smartest move, I expect to see a good deal more of this.

> Men have this funny idea that they can screw
> anything that holds still and there are no consequences cause they been doing it for
> thousands of years and never had to pay the consequences.

"now who is making vast generalizations?"

But:
<http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2003-10/uom-dac102203.php>


> Women, of course, had to
> pay all the consequences when they screwed around and got pregnant.

You left out rape and prostitution due to economic factors, but
....Equal treatment, justice, or a chance at retribution?

Note also the eureka link, re "cads and dads".

[KenCo]

wrote:
> ????? you wanna carry babies to term?
>


well, most men have "pot bellies" now so
it probably wouldn't even show lol


BUT, I wont even get into where it will/could
be delivered from .....




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[Offbreed]

wrote:

> ????? you wanna carry babies to term?

You left out part.

BV:
>>> the PGA. We simply stated that if the women can play on the "Men's" tour
>>> then the men should be able to play on the "Women's" tour.
Me:
>> LOL. I just *bet* you caught hell for that one <G>.
>
>> If a woman cannot handle what a bunch of men are doing in a traditionally
>> all male setting, the men are supposed to change.
>> Try saying the above with male/female reversed, and get tarred and feathered.

Let's see:
"If a man cannot handle what a bunch of women are doing in a
traditionally all female setting, the women are supposed to change."

Pregnancy has nothing to do with the discussion.

However, if pregnancy is the only difference between men and women,
would that justify unequal treatment in areas not related to child
bearing?

[Just Me \Koi\]

Ingrid,

I am in no way an expert, except for one thing, when you get screwed by the
legal system as I was, just because I am the man and my ex was the woman, it
becomes very difficult to think in terms of equality. Not because I think
women are inferior, but because I know that the system pre-judges men as
being evil and guilty.

I am not in any way then justifying female bashing ( I have a mother, 2
sisters, a wife that I love dearly, and 3 daughters). I am just suggesting
to you that maybe those of us that have been in the receiving end may not be
as logical as you are expecting us to be.

I even twitch anytime I hear women's right, feminist, and other similar
words. Heck I can barely contain myself when I hear those words, if not for
the consequence of permanent incarceration in an asylum, I will give in to
the temptation to rip off all my clothes and run down the middle of the
highway screaming! (Ugly picture if I may say)

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EXACTLY. Who has the better lawyer and did more of their homework before they even
filed. Like men hide assets, women may have a PI following errant husbands with a
camera.
In any case, 5 years after a divorce 75% of men are paying no support, not even child
support. And women are consistently much worse off as a "whole" after divorce. If
there are children women usually take time off and they were in a worse financial
situation anyway. Women still arent equal in earning ability, not by a long shot. I
have a friend who married a guy, got his house out of bankruptcy, fixed it up, moved
her furniture in and rented her own place. well he went back to drugs, she got a
divorce, he got the house she fixed up for him, all the furniture and she had to pay
him support for a year. he never did work while they were married (OK, it was a very
short marriage) and she was the one bringing in the money. So how fair is that. so
when a woman makes more than a man, she will get the short end of the stick too.
So why did she marry him, well she is religious and loved him and thought he needed a
second chance.
I think most women are more capable of raising small children. not all, most. and I
dont see that changing much. so women are going to get the house, they are going to
get child support.
Feminists, OTOH, like my cousin, has one ex and another who is the father of her
second child and she has made sure both fathers are totally involved with the kids,
even to her financial detriment (she is a PhD physiologist) by remaining where both
girls spend a great deal of time with their fathers. Feminists dont need men for
financial support. Women who talk equality and run from it the minute life gets
tough are not feminists. Ingrid

BTC/TAK on ACK" > wrote:
>You know, I hope, that usually boils down to who has the "better" lawyer far
>more than male/female issues. Many women have legal horror stories too.

"Just Me \"Koi\"" > wrote:
>I am in no way an expert, except for one thing, when you get screwed by the
>legal system as I was, just because I am the man and my ex was the woman, it
>becomes very difficult to think in terms of equality. Not because I think
>women are inferior, but because I know that the system pre-judges men as
>being evil and guilty.
>I even twitch anytime I hear women's right, feminist, and other similar
>words. Heck I can barely contain myself when I hear those words, if not for
>the consequence of permanent incarceration in an asylum, I will give in to
>the temptation to rip off all my clothes and run down the middle of the
>highway screaming! (Ugly picture if I may say)



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traditionally women have had legal horrors. used to be only nuns with stab wounds
could win in rape trials. Ingrid

"BTC/TAK on ACK" > wrote:
>You know, I hope, that usually boils down to who has the "better" lawyer far
>more than male/female issues. Many women have legal horror stories too.


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Wow, now there's the oldest cliché in print.

Joe

On 2/12/04 2:29 PM, " > wrote:

> Men have this funny idea that they can screw anything that holds still and
> there are no consequences cause they been doing it for thousands of years and
> never had to pay the consequences. Women, of course, had to pay all the
> consequences when they screwed around and got pregnant.



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[Just Me \Koi\]

You are putting up the same prejudicial argument my ex'a attorney put up!

So what's going on with our ponds?

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> wrote in message
...
> EXACTLY. Who has the better lawyer and did more of their homework before
they even
> filed. Like men hide assets, women may have a PI following errant
husbands with a
> camera.
> In any case, 5 years after a divorce 75% of men are paying no support, not
even child
> support. And women are consistently much worse off as a "whole" after
divorce. If
> there are children women usually take time off and they were in a worse
financial
> situation anyway. Women still arent equal in earning ability, not by a
long shot. I
> have a friend who married a guy, got his house out of bankruptcy, fixed it
up, moved
> her furniture in and rented her own place. well he went back to drugs,
she got a
> divorce, he got the house she fixed up for him, all the furniture and she
had to pay
> him support for a year. he never did work while they were married (OK, it
was a very
> short marriage) and she was the one bringing in the money. So how fair is
that. so
> when a woman makes more than a man, she will get the short end of the
stick too.
> So why did she marry him, well she is religious and loved him and thought
he needed a
> second chance.
> I think most women are more capable of raising small children. not all,
most. and I
> dont see that changing much. so women are going to get the house, they
are going to
> get child support.
> Feminists, OTOH, like my cousin, has one ex and another who is the father
of her
> second child and she has made sure both fathers are totally involved with
the kids,
> even to her financial detriment (she is a PhD physiologist) by remaining
where both
> girls spend a great deal of time with their fathers. Feminists dont need
men for
> financial support. Women who talk equality and run from it the minute
life gets
> tough are not feminists. Ingrid
>
> BTC/TAK on ACK" > wrote:
> >You know, I hope, that usually boils down to who has the "better" lawyer
far
> >more than male/female issues. Many women have legal horror stories too.
>
> "Just Me \"Koi\"" > wrote:
> >I am in no way an expert, except for one thing, when you get screwed by
the
> >legal system as I was, just because I am the man and my ex was the woman,
it
> >becomes very difficult to think in terms of equality. Not because I
think
> >women are inferior, but because I know that the system pre-judges men as
> >being evil and guilty.
> >I even twitch anytime I hear women's right, feminist, and other similar
> >words. Heck I can barely contain myself when I hear those words, if not
for
> >the consequence of permanent incarceration in an asylum, I will give in
to
> >the temptation to rip off all my clothes and run down the middle of the
> >highway screaming! (Ugly picture if I may say)
>
>
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[fuerjefe]

joe wrote:
> Oh, oh. Here we go!
> .
>>You hate civil rights movement too?
>>Ingrid
>>
>>"Nedra" > wrote:
>>
..
me i dislike all of the movements, not the movers, look at the ten
commandments thing they took it out becouse it pomoted christianity,,
now its back cause it doent promote christianity. according to the group
who sued over it tell me how they did that will ya

John Rutz
who believes every one should be treated the same till they mess up

[fuerjefe]

BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
>> ...every one should be treated the same till they mess up
>
>
> It's finding a universally accepted interpretation of those last 4
> words, John, that's stymied a lot cleverer folk than we two!
>
> My
>
> "fuerjefe" > wrote in message
> ....
>
> naa I got it simple if some one is left hurt/ then the other party
> messed up
>

[fuerjefe]

BTC/TAK on ACK wrote:
>>if some one is left hurt/ then the other party messed up
>
>
> "They" say that sometimes the truth hurts. And, it seems to me, you're an
> unusually astute guy if you've never had a significant part in your own
> "hurts'.
>
>
>.yuea but its easier to deal with when my actions hurt me
its realy hard when i acidently hurt someone else

John

[Offbreed]

fuerjefe wrote:

> me i dislike all of the movements, not the movers, look at the ten
> commandments thing they took it out becouse it pomoted christianity,,

Nah, they took it out because putting "Thou shalt not steal" on the
wall created a hostile work environment for the politicians in the
building.

[REBEL JOE]

oh brother here we go with the baby thing. should be called the womens
men hateing club. lol bet I.m in trouble now



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[John Hines]

Offbreed > wrote:

>BenignVanilla wrote:
>
>> the PGA. We simply stated that if the women can play on the "Men's" tour
>> then the men should be able to play on the "Women's" tour.
>
>LOL. I just *bet* you caught hell for that one <G>.

There is no "men's tour", there is "the professional golfers tour". The
best golfers should be the ones on the tour, regardless of age, sex,
race, country etc.

There are lots of "tours" with qualifiers (ladies, seniors, etc) that
take a restricted set of players, but IMHO, the pro tour should be open
to anyone that plays well enough to qualify.

Thinking of golf, anyone know how they (golf courses) do their water
hazard (their term for pond) edge treatments? They seem to get a nice
clean edge, with out any wall or the like.