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aslng
March 8th 04, 01:08 AM
1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer. Now, I
am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year so
far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?

2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read some
previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).

3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with reasonable
quality. Online? Any suggested stores?

I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).

Thanks.

Tom La Bron
March 8th 04, 04:20 AM
Sorry aslng,

Almost ever year I sell hardy lilies for postage costs, but last year I
tried something different and planted mine in pea gravel and they didn't
grow at all, so no extra plants this year from me. I guy that I know is
moving and will be shutting down his pond for the move and he unusually has
lots of lilies. If I get some divisions from him I will let you and others
on the list know of availability.

Some of the home and garden places like LOWES sell them in the Spring, but
last year the prices on LOWES plants really shot up. You used to be able to
get some for about 5 bucks, but they jumped up the 12 dollar range last year
for some reason. You can also get lilies from suppliers on the net, you
just have to look.

Good luck.

Tom L.L.
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"aslng" > wrote in message
m...
> 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer. Now,
I
> am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year so
> far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
>
> 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read some
> previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
>
> 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
reasonable
> quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
>
> I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
>
> Thanks.
>
>

adavisus
March 8th 04, 07:27 AM
> 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer. Now, I
> am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year so
> far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?

Sounds bad, it could be water lily root rot, a terminal fungal disease
specific to waterlilies. It takes a lot to kill a water lily and once
in a pond, it's going to disease water lilies planted therein the
future. Only a few varieties are strong enough to outgrow that
disease, for example the native white alba.

Cure: drain pond. Remove and burn all soil and Lily remnants. Rinse
all surfaces with a strong chlorox bleach solution. Rinse and repeat.
Happy days...

Diseased plants are FREQUENTLY dumped on message boards for 'free' or
trades and sale as 'going cheap' by folk who know something is wrong
and have no scruples as to getting replacement plants. I've even found
infected rhisome sections inserted into potting soil of marginal
plants by unscrupulous traders

> 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read some
> previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).

Feeder roots on water lilies are only about 4" to 6" deep. Any deeper
is absolutely totally pointless...

> 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with reasonable
> quality. Online? Any suggested stores?

There are several dedicated water gardeners on e-bay selling named
varieties, with good photo's and descriptions, these you can research
on the web for their growing habits.

The 'big shed' stores sell imported boxed plants of doubtful identity,
often invasive mislabeled varieties. Lowes has carried a small
selection of fairly good varieties in recent years

Regards, andy
http://www.members.aol.com/abdavisnc/swglist.html

Bryan
March 8th 04, 06:38 PM
Can't help with the old(dead) lillies or potting.

But Last 2 years I've gotten some "hardy" lillies at walmart in early
spring. About $5. They all did really well, bloomed even in the first year.
they came bare root in a soil filled bag. A local nusery sold some for about
the same price. I too noticed lowes price last year. I can a lot of potting
for the $10-$15 dollar higher price of the bare root bargins.

Bryan


"aslng" > wrote in message
m...
> 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer. Now,
I
> am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year so
> far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
>
> 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read some
> previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
>
> 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
reasonable
> quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
>
> I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
>
> Thanks.
>
>

aslng
March 16th 04, 07:09 AM
I cut the Rhizome to 3 sections and re-pot them a week ago. Add some
fertilizer sticks. Now, I saw quite a few leaves coming out. Though, they
are very very tiny. I am not sure if the leaves will be even smaller than
what I had last year. Anyway, the lily hasn't died yet. Any suggestion how
to make the lilies to grow bigger and stronger?

Before I found my old lilies were alive, I bought another one from Yard bird
(for $25). Walmart in our area (Rohnert Park, Northern California) don't
carry water lily. Lowe is too far away from where I live.

Thanks.

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
> Can't help with the old(dead) lillies or potting.
>
> But Last 2 years I've gotten some "hardy" lillies at walmart in early
> spring. About $5. They all did really well, bloomed even in the first
year.
> they came bare root in a soil filled bag. A local nusery sold some for
about
> the same price. I too noticed lowes price last year. I can a lot of
potting
> for the $10-$15 dollar higher price of the bare root bargins.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> "aslng" > wrote in message
> m...
> > 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer.
Now,
> I
> > am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year
so
> > far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
> >
> > 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read
some
> > previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
> >
> > 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
> reasonable
> > quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
> >
> > I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

aslng
March 16th 04, 07:09 AM
I cut the Rhizome to 3 sections and re-pot them a week ago. Add some
fertilizer sticks. Now, I saw quite a few leaves coming out. Though, they
are very very tiny. I am not sure if the leaves will be even smaller than
what I had last year. Anyway, the lily hasn't died yet. Any suggestion how
to make the lilies to grow bigger and stronger?

Before I found my old lilies were alive, I bought another one from Yard bird
(for $25). Walmart in our area (Rohnert Park, Northern California) don't
carry water lily. Lowe is too far away from where I live.

Thanks.

"Bryan" > wrote in message
...
> Can't help with the old(dead) lillies or potting.
>
> But Last 2 years I've gotten some "hardy" lillies at walmart in early
> spring. About $5. They all did really well, bloomed even in the first
year.
> they came bare root in a soil filled bag. A local nusery sold some for
about
> the same price. I too noticed lowes price last year. I can a lot of
potting
> for the $10-$15 dollar higher price of the bare root bargins.
>
> Bryan
>
>
> "aslng" > wrote in message
> m...
> > 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer.
Now,
> I
> > am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year
so
> > far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
> >
> > 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read
some
> > previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
> >
> > 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
> reasonable
> > quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
> >
> > I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

RichToyBox
March 17th 04, 02:36 AM
Just keep them fertilized. I fertilize mine at least once a month during
the growing season, and while they are in bloom, every two weeks. They love
fertilizer. I don't know if you can put in too much.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"aslng" > wrote in message
. com...
> I cut the Rhizome to 3 sections and re-pot them a week ago. Add some
> fertilizer sticks. Now, I saw quite a few leaves coming out. Though, they
> are very very tiny. I am not sure if the leaves will be even smaller than
> what I had last year. Anyway, the lily hasn't died yet. Any suggestion how
> to make the lilies to grow bigger and stronger?
>
> Before I found my old lilies were alive, I bought another one from Yard
bird
> (for $25). Walmart in our area (Rohnert Park, Northern California) don't
> carry water lily. Lowe is too far away from where I live.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can't help with the old(dead) lillies or potting.
> >
> > But Last 2 years I've gotten some "hardy" lillies at walmart in early
> > spring. About $5. They all did really well, bloomed even in the first
> year.
> > they came bare root in a soil filled bag. A local nusery sold some for
> about
> > the same price. I too noticed lowes price last year. I can a lot of
> potting
> > for the $10-$15 dollar higher price of the bare root bargins.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > "aslng" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer.
> Now,
> > I
> > > am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year
> so
> > > far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
> > >
> > > 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read
> some
> > > previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
> > >
> > > 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
> > reasonable
> > > quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
> > >
> > > I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

RichToyBox
March 17th 04, 02:36 AM
Just keep them fertilized. I fertilize mine at least once a month during
the growing season, and while they are in bloom, every two weeks. They love
fertilizer. I don't know if you can put in too much.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html


"aslng" > wrote in message
. com...
> I cut the Rhizome to 3 sections and re-pot them a week ago. Add some
> fertilizer sticks. Now, I saw quite a few leaves coming out. Though, they
> are very very tiny. I am not sure if the leaves will be even smaller than
> what I had last year. Anyway, the lily hasn't died yet. Any suggestion how
> to make the lilies to grow bigger and stronger?
>
> Before I found my old lilies were alive, I bought another one from Yard
bird
> (for $25). Walmart in our area (Rohnert Park, Northern California) don't
> carry water lily. Lowe is too far away from where I live.
>
> Thanks.
>
> "Bryan" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can't help with the old(dead) lillies or potting.
> >
> > But Last 2 years I've gotten some "hardy" lillies at walmart in early
> > spring. About $5. They all did really well, bloomed even in the first
> year.
> > they came bare root in a soil filled bag. A local nusery sold some for
> about
> > the same price. I too noticed lowes price last year. I can a lot of
> potting
> > for the $10-$15 dollar higher price of the bare root bargins.
> >
> > Bryan
> >
> >
> > "aslng" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > 1) My lily leaves became smaller and smaller during the last summer.
> Now,
> > I
> > > am not sure if it's dead. Rhizome has many roots but no leaf this year
> so
> > > far. The Rhizome is dark brown color. How could I tell if it's dead?
> > >
> > > 2) What's the ideal pot size for hardy lily? Is 12 inches ok? I read
> some
> > > previous posting mentioned about 18 inches pot (7 inches deep).
> > >
> > > 3) Any suggestion where to buy hardy water lily? Good price with
> > reasonable
> > > quality. Online? Any suggested stores?
> > >
> > > I live in Santa Rose (Northern California).
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Happy'Cam'per
March 17th 04, 07:14 AM
They love
> fertilizer. I don't know if you can put in too much.
> --

Like LSD, less, is more :)
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

Happy'Cam'per
March 17th 04, 07:14 AM
They love
> fertilizer. I don't know if you can put in too much.
> --

Like LSD, less, is more :)
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**

joe
March 17th 04, 04:40 PM
Hmmm, never heard that.

Joe


On 3/16/04 11:14 PM, "Happy'Cam'per" > wrote:

> Like LSD, less, is more :)



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joe
March 17th 04, 04:40 PM
Hmmm, never heard that.

Joe


On 3/16/04 11:14 PM, "Happy'Cam'per" > wrote:

> Like LSD, less, is more :)



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