Lotus Repotting Yet?

[BenignVanilla]

Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary rectangle
rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

BV,

I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
rectangle
> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Nedra]

BV,

I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
rectangle
> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> BV,
>
> I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
<snip>

Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a friend
and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid and
sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and under
plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of that
big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success last
year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.

I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a 3.5
foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of planting a
tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> BV,
>
> I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
<snip>

Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a friend
and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid and
sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and under
plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of that
big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success last
year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.

I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a 3.5
foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of planting a
tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
them ;-)

Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
beautiful pictures from last year.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > BV,
> >
> > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> <snip>
>
> Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a friend
> and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid and
> sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
under
> plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
that
> big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success last
> year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
>
> I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a
3.5
> foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of planting
a
> tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>
>

[Nedra]

But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
them ;-)

Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
beautiful pictures from last year.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > BV,
> >
> > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> <snip>
>
> Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a friend
> and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid and
> sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
under
> plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
that
> big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success last
> year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
>
> I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a
3.5
> foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of planting
a
> tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>
>

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
link.net...
> But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> them ;-)
<snip>

Really? Just 14 inch? That's awesome. I think I have a few of those.

As for the window box, they work great. Since they are moulded plastic, they
have a huge lip around the edge. When I want to fetch them, I flip a rake
over and hook the tines under the lip, and lift.


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[BenignVanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
link.net...
> But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> them ;-)
<snip>

Really? Just 14 inch? That's awesome. I think I have a few of those.

As for the window box, they work great. Since they are moulded plastic, they
have a huge lip around the edge. When I want to fetch them, I flip a rake
over and hook the tines under the lip, and lift.


--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Peggy]

Hi Nedra ( and everyone) what do you use for planting medium for your lotus
plants?

Peggy


"Nedra" > wrote in message
link.net...
> But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> them ;-)
>
> Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
> beautiful pictures from last year.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > BV,
> > >
> > > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> > <snip>
> >
> > Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a
friend
> > and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid
and
> > sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
> under
> > plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
> that
> > big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success
last
> > year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
> >
> > I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a
> 3.5
> > foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of
planting
> a
> > tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
> >
> > --
> > BV.
> > www.iheartmypond.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Peggy]

Hi Nedra ( and everyone) what do you use for planting medium for your lotus
plants?

Peggy


"Nedra" > wrote in message
link.net...
> But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> them ;-)
>
> Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
> beautiful pictures from last year.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > BV,
> > >
> > > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> > <snip>
> >
> > Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a
friend
> > and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid
and
> > sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
> under
> > plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
> that
> > big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success
last
> > year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
> >
> > I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have a
> 3.5
> > foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of
planting
> a
> > tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
> >
> > --
> > BV.
> > www.iheartmypond.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

Hi Peggy,

I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
to work in unison to remove the containers.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Peggy" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Nedra ( and everyone) what do you use for planting medium for your
lotus
> plants?
>
> Peggy
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> > is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > them ;-)
> >
> > Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
> > beautiful pictures from last year.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > BV,
> > > >
> > > > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > > > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > > > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > > > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a
> friend
> > > and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid
> and
> > > sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
> > under
> > > plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
> > that
> > > big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success
> last
> > > year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
> > >
> > > I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have
a
> > 3.5
> > > foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of
> planting
> > a
> > > tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > BV.
> > > www.iheartmypond.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

Hi Peggy,

I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
to work in unison to remove the containers.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Peggy" > wrote in message
...
> Hi Nedra ( and everyone) what do you use for planting medium for your
lotus
> plants?
>
> Peggy
>
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> > is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > them ;-)
> >
> > Good Luck this year with your lotuses... I remember the
> > beautiful pictures from last year.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > BV,
> > > >
> > > > I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> > > > water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> > > > leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> > > > is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Well that is a relief, although last year, I got the tubors from a
> friend
> > > and was running out of time, so I tossed them in 30 gallon rubbermaid
> and
> > > sank it. The plants grew very nicely, but now they are 4 feet down and
> > under
> > > plenty of muckthat has fallen into the pond. I need to get them out of
> > that
> > > big barrel, replanted and in less water. Although I had great success
> last
> > > year, I think this year, I'll plant them more properly.
> > >
> > > I just need to find some shallow pots that are easier to move. I have
a
> > 3.5
> > > foot long planter box, kinda window sill style. I was thinking of
> planting
> > a
> > > tubor in that and seeing how well it does this year.
> > >
> > > --
> > > BV.
> > > www.iheartmypond.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...

I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> > is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > them ;-)
> <snip>
>
> Really? Just 14 inch? That's awesome. I think I have a few of those.
>
> As for the window box, they work great. Since they are moulded plastic,
they
> have a huge lip around the edge. When I want to fetch them, I flip a rake
> over and hook the tines under the lip, and lift.
>
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Nedra]

ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...

I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> link.net...
> > But how in heck will you move the 3.5 window box when it
> > is full of lotuses?? That will be awfully heavy - for me anyway.
> > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > them ;-)
> <snip>
>
> Really? Just 14 inch? That's awesome. I think I have a few of those.
>
> As for the window box, they work great. Since they are moulded plastic,
they
> have a huge lip around the edge. When I want to fetch them, I flip a rake
> over and hook the tines under the lip, and lift.
>
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[~ Windsong ~]

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
rectangle
> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
========================
I lost all my Lotus this past winter and haven't a clue why. They simply
rotted and turned to mush. Probably some bacterial disease.
--
Carol....
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
rectangle
> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
========================
I lost all my Lotus this past winter and haven't a clue why. They simply
rotted and turned to mush. Probably some bacterial disease.
--
Carol....
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

REALLY!!?????? I thought they had to be completely dormant to work with
them? That's what I've always heard and read. We're talking lotus not
lilies, right?


>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:19:00 GMT, "Nedra" > wrote:

>BV,
>
>I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
>water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
>leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
>is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
>rectangle
>> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
>> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
>>
>> --
>> BV.
>> www.iheartmypond.com
>>
>>
>>
>

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

REALLY!!?????? I thought they had to be completely dormant to work with
them? That's what I've always heard and read. We're talking lotus not
lilies, right?


>On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:19:00 GMT, "Nedra" > wrote:

>BV,
>
>I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
>water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
>leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
>is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
>
>Nedra
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
>"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
...
>> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
>rectangle
>> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out without
>> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
>>
>> --
>> BV.
>> www.iheartmypond.com
>>
>>
>>
>

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
and who better to believe? James said that the Water Garden Journal
will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> REALLY!!?????? I thought they had to be completely dormant to work with
> them? That's what I've always heard and read. We're talking lotus not
> lilies, right?
>
>
> >On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:19:00 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:
>
> >BV,
> >
> >I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> >water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> >leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> >is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> >"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
> >rectangle
> >> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out
without
> >> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
> >>
> >> --
> >> BV.
> >> www.iheartmypond.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
and who better to believe? James said that the Water Garden Journal
will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> REALLY!!?????? I thought they had to be completely dormant to work with
> them? That's what I've always heard and read. We're talking lotus not
> lilies, right?
>
>
> >On Fri, 02 Apr 2004 18:19:00 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:
>
> >BV,
> >
> >I'm delighted to report that we don't have to get in ice cold
> >water - not yet! You can wait until there are two, maybe 3
> >leaves floating on the surface before Repotting. This info
> >is per James Allison of the International Water Lilies group.
> >
> >Nedra
> >http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> >http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> >"BenignVanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Anyone in Zone 6ish repoting Lotus yet? Mine is in it's temporary
> >rectangle
> >> rubbermaid at the bottom of 3.5 feet of water. I can't get it out
without
> >> getting in, and that just ain't happening for another month or so.
> >>
> >> --
> >> BV.
> >> www.iheartmypond.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Sue Walsh]

"Nedra" > wrote in message et>...

> I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
> no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
> to work in unison to remove the containers.

> > > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > > them ;-)

Nedra,
This may help you save your back and knees. While I don't grow Lotus,
yet, I also use dishpans, rectangle ones to pot my water lilies. My
daughter Laura told me to put handles on everything I planted in so I
could remove it easier from the pond. With a sissor point or a
screwdriver, I punch a hole in the middle of each of the 4 sides of
the dishpan just under the lip. Then I use heavy gauge(I think #14 or
#16)plastic coated copper wire(no problem with the fish from the
copper that I can see after a year)purchased from Home Depot, and go
from side to side to form one handle leaving it long enough to form a
loop about 3" above the container. Twist the ends back on themselves
a few times so they don't slip out under weight. Form another handle
across the top of the first going from front to back. These two cross
in the center of the container about 3" above the top. The plant will
grow around it. You now have a balanced continer when you try to lift
it. I can't get down on my knees, so my husband made me a lifter
pole. It's a broom handle that he screwed a bicycle hook into the
flat end. To make sure it did not split the pole he put 2 metal claps
around the pole at the end before he screwed the hook into. I can
lift the weight of these pots full of lilies and wet soil, which is
quite heavy with the pole. I can also use it to move pots around in
the pond. And I use the pole to lower the pots into the pond after
repotting. All this is done while 'standing' on dry land. I do the
same thing with all my pots, even round ones, what every type they
are. Works great. On round ones just space the 4 holes evenly apart.
You do need to do 2 handles crossed in the center other wise it
doesn't balance and pots can tip over when being lifted dumping
everything out (been there, done that), not worth the mess to save a
little wire. This old body can't bend too well any more and I could
never climb out of the pond with my knees so I don't get in at all.
Handles work great for me.

Sue W

[Sue Walsh]

"Nedra" > wrote in message et>...

> I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
> no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
> to work in unison to remove the containers.

> > > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > > them ;-)

Nedra,
This may help you save your back and knees. While I don't grow Lotus,
yet, I also use dishpans, rectangle ones to pot my water lilies. My
daughter Laura told me to put handles on everything I planted in so I
could remove it easier from the pond. With a sissor point or a
screwdriver, I punch a hole in the middle of each of the 4 sides of
the dishpan just under the lip. Then I use heavy gauge(I think #14 or
#16)plastic coated copper wire(no problem with the fish from the
copper that I can see after a year)purchased from Home Depot, and go
from side to side to form one handle leaving it long enough to form a
loop about 3" above the container. Twist the ends back on themselves
a few times so they don't slip out under weight. Form another handle
across the top of the first going from front to back. These two cross
in the center of the container about 3" above the top. The plant will
grow around it. You now have a balanced continer when you try to lift
it. I can't get down on my knees, so my husband made me a lifter
pole. It's a broom handle that he screwed a bicycle hook into the
flat end. To make sure it did not split the pole he put 2 metal claps
around the pole at the end before he screwed the hook into. I can
lift the weight of these pots full of lilies and wet soil, which is
quite heavy with the pole. I can also use it to move pots around in
the pond. And I use the pole to lower the pots into the pond after
repotting. All this is done while 'standing' on dry land. I do the
same thing with all my pots, even round ones, what every type they
are. Works great. On round ones just space the 4 holes evenly apart.
You do need to do 2 handles crossed in the center other wise it
doesn't balance and pots can tip over when being lifted dumping
everything out (been there, done that), not worth the mess to save a
little wire. This old body can't bend too well any more and I could
never climb out of the pond with my knees so I don't get in at all.
Handles work great for me.

Sue W

[Nedra]

Gosh Sue, you and your hubby.... what a great team!
I'm forwarding this to my inbox so I can have it as I need
to make some handles ;-) Thanks again....

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Sue Walsh" > wrote in message
om...
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
et>...
>
> > I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
> > no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
> > to work in unison to remove the containers.
>
> > > > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > > > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > > > them ;-)
>
> Nedra,
> This may help you save your back and knees. While I don't grow Lotus,
> yet, I also use dishpans, rectangle ones to pot my water lilies. My
> daughter Laura told me to put handles on everything I planted in so I
> could remove it easier from the pond. With a sissor point or a
> screwdriver, I punch a hole in the middle of each of the 4 sides of
> the dishpan just under the lip. Then I use heavy gauge(I think #14 or
> #16)plastic coated copper wire(no problem with the fish from the
> copper that I can see after a year)purchased from Home Depot, and go
> from side to side to form one handle leaving it long enough to form a
> loop about 3" above the container. Twist the ends back on themselves
> a few times so they don't slip out under weight. Form another handle
> across the top of the first going from front to back. These two cross
> in the center of the container about 3" above the top. The plant will
> grow around it. You now have a balanced continer when you try to lift
> it. I can't get down on my knees, so my husband made me a lifter
> pole. It's a broom handle that he screwed a bicycle hook into the
> flat end. To make sure it did not split the pole he put 2 metal claps
> around the pole at the end before he screwed the hook into. I can
> lift the weight of these pots full of lilies and wet soil, which is
> quite heavy with the pole. I can also use it to move pots around in
> the pond. And I use the pole to lower the pots into the pond after
> repotting. All this is done while 'standing' on dry land. I do the
> same thing with all my pots, even round ones, what every type they
> are. Works great. On round ones just space the 4 holes evenly apart.
> You do need to do 2 handles crossed in the center other wise it
> doesn't balance and pots can tip over when being lifted dumping
> everything out (been there, done that), not worth the mess to save a
> little wire. This old body can't bend too well any more and I could
> never climb out of the pond with my knees so I don't get in at all.
> Handles work great for me.
>
> Sue W

[Nedra]

Gosh Sue, you and your hubby.... what a great team!
I'm forwarding this to my inbox so I can have it as I need
to make some handles ;-) Thanks again....

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Sue Walsh" > wrote in message
om...
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
et>...
>
> > I use plain ole garden soil to plant to lotuses. No sweat -
> > no strain. The worst of it for me is getting my knees and back
> > to work in unison to remove the containers.
>
> > > > I have mine planted in 14 inch round plastic dishpans that I
> > > > bought at the $$ store. Seems to work fine... and I can lift
> > > > them ;-)
>
> Nedra,
> This may help you save your back and knees. While I don't grow Lotus,
> yet, I also use dishpans, rectangle ones to pot my water lilies. My
> daughter Laura told me to put handles on everything I planted in so I
> could remove it easier from the pond. With a sissor point or a
> screwdriver, I punch a hole in the middle of each of the 4 sides of
> the dishpan just under the lip. Then I use heavy gauge(I think #14 or
> #16)plastic coated copper wire(no problem with the fish from the
> copper that I can see after a year)purchased from Home Depot, and go
> from side to side to form one handle leaving it long enough to form a
> loop about 3" above the container. Twist the ends back on themselves
> a few times so they don't slip out under weight. Form another handle
> across the top of the first going from front to back. These two cross
> in the center of the container about 3" above the top. The plant will
> grow around it. You now have a balanced continer when you try to lift
> it. I can't get down on my knees, so my husband made me a lifter
> pole. It's a broom handle that he screwed a bicycle hook into the
> flat end. To make sure it did not split the pole he put 2 metal claps
> around the pole at the end before he screwed the hook into. I can
> lift the weight of these pots full of lilies and wet soil, which is
> quite heavy with the pole. I can also use it to move pots around in
> the pond. And I use the pole to lower the pots into the pond after
> repotting. All this is done while 'standing' on dry land. I do the
> same thing with all my pots, even round ones, what every type they
> are. Works great. On round ones just space the 4 holes evenly apart.
> You do need to do 2 handles crossed in the center other wise it
> doesn't balance and pots can tip over when being lifted dumping
> everything out (been there, done that), not worth the mess to save a
> little wire. This old body can't bend too well any more and I could
> never climb out of the pond with my knees so I don't get in at all.
> Handles work great for me.
>
> Sue W

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
>and who better to believe?

Inform me. Who is James Allison, other than a member of IWGS?

Since I've gone back to work, my pond homework of reading the pond rags has
been put on the back burner. :o(

>James said that the Water Garden Journal
>will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
>Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.
>Nedra

Oh my, what I'm missing, I've never even heard of the Water Garden Journal,
how oftened is it published, do you have to be a member of IWGS, etc. ?
Educate me. :o)


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
>and who better to believe?

Inform me. Who is James Allison, other than a member of IWGS?

Since I've gone back to work, my pond homework of reading the pond rags has
been put on the back burner. :o(

>James said that the Water Garden Journal
>will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
>Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.
>Nedra

Oh my, what I'm missing, I've never even heard of the Water Garden Journal,
how oftened is it published, do you have to be a member of IWGS, etc. ?
Educate me. :o)


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Jan,
James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
which is the 'seasonal' publication of IWGS. He's been very
active in the IWGS.
He also has a wonderful book that he authored; it was my first pond book -
called "Water in the Garden". Still my favorite pond book.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
> >and who better to believe?
>
> Inform me. Who is James Allison, other than a member of IWGS?
>
> Since I've gone back to work, my pond homework of reading the pond rags
has
> been put on the back burner. :o(
>
> >James said that the Water Garden Journal
> >will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
> >Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.
> >Nedra
>
> Oh my, what I'm missing, I've never even heard of the Water Garden
Journal,
> how oftened is it published, do you have to be a member of IWGS, etc. ?
> Educate me. :o)
>
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Jan,
James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
which is the 'seasonal' publication of IWGS. He's been very
active in the IWGS.
He also has a wonderful book that he authored; it was my first pond book -
called "Water in the Garden". Still my favorite pond book.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >Jan, that is what James Allison (IWGS) told me in an email
> >and who better to believe?
>
> Inform me. Who is James Allison, other than a member of IWGS?
>
> Since I've gone back to work, my pond homework of reading the pond rags
has
> been put on the back burner. :o(
>
> >James said that the Water Garden Journal
> >will be running articles on Lotus for the foreseeable future.
> >Autumn 2003 issue had lots to offer those of us who adore Lotus.
> >Nedra
>
> Oh my, what I'm missing, I've never even heard of the Water Garden
Journal,
> how oftened is it published, do you have to be a member of IWGS, etc. ?
> Educate me. :o)
>
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
>He also has a wonderful book that he authored; called "Water in the Garden"
>Nedra

I think I have that one too... or it is one of K30's I'm storing for her.
TY Nedra.

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
>He also has a wonderful book that he authored; called "Water in the Garden"
>Nedra

I think I have that one too... or it is one of K30's I'm storing for her.
TY Nedra.

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Your welcome, Jan.

Nedra

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
> >He also has a wonderful book that he authored; called "Water in the
Garden"
> >Nedra
>
> I think I have that one too... or it is one of K30's I'm storing for her.
> TY Nedra.
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Nedra]

Your welcome, Jan.

Nedra

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >James Allison is the editor of 'The Water Garden Journal'
> >He also has a wonderful book that he authored; called "Water in the
Garden"
> >Nedra
>
> I think I have that one too... or it is one of K30's I'm storing for her.
> TY Nedra.
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...
>
> I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
> near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
> and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
> The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
> pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.
<snip>

Mine stayed put last year, but they were in 6-8 of clay at the bottom of a
30 gallon rubbermaid. This year, I am going to try the plastic 4 foot long
window box for one, and I am going to get a 14inch round pot as you
suggested. We'll see which does better.

On a side note, I finally got the rubbermaid out of the pond...It took
everything I had, and I nearly fell in, but it's out and sitting next to the
pond. I am hoping to dig out the tubors and replant them soon.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...
>
> I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
> near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
> and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
> The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
> pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.
<snip>

Mine stayed put last year, but they were in 6-8 of clay at the bottom of a
30 gallon rubbermaid. This year, I am going to try the plastic 4 foot long
window box for one, and I am going to get a 14inch round pot as you
suggested. We'll see which does better.

On a side note, I finally got the rubbermaid out of the pond...It took
everything I had, and I nearly fell in, but it's out and sitting next to the
pond. I am hoping to dig out the tubors and replant them soon.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

BV,
I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.

You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
warning out to you.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...
> >
> > I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
> > near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
> > and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
> > The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
> > pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.
> <snip>
>
> Mine stayed put last year, but they were in 6-8 of clay at the bottom of a
> 30 gallon rubbermaid. This year, I am going to try the plastic 4 foot long
> window box for one, and I am going to get a 14inch round pot as you
> suggested. We'll see which does better.
>
> On a side note, I finally got the rubbermaid out of the pond...It took
> everything I had, and I nearly fell in, but it's out and sitting next to
the
> pond. I am hoping to dig out the tubors and replant them soon.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Nedra]

BV,
I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.

You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
warning out to you.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > ahhhh ... okay BV. I thought your window box was wood ...
> >
> > I have my own theory on planting lotus. I don't think they need
> > near as much soil as is printed in books. I've experimented
> > and found that they jump the pots - no matter what.
> > The lotus pond (link is the second one below my sig) is
> > pretty much testimony that they do their own thing.
> <snip>
>
> Mine stayed put last year, but they were in 6-8 of clay at the bottom of a
> 30 gallon rubbermaid. This year, I am going to try the plastic 4 foot long
> window box for one, and I am going to get a 14inch round pot as you
> suggested. We'll see which does better.
>
> On a side note, I finally got the rubbermaid out of the pond...It took
> everything I had, and I nearly fell in, but it's out and sitting next to
the
> pond. I am hoping to dig out the tubors and replant them soon.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> BV,
> I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
> It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
> for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
> in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
> jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
> humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.
>
> You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
> warning out to you.
<snip>

I can't do any worse then planting them 4 feet down like I did last year.
LOL.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
hlink.net...
> BV,
> I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
> It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
> for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
> in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
> jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
> humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.
>
> You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
> warning out to you.
<snip>

I can't do any worse then planting them 4 feet down like I did last year.
LOL.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

Okay ... I feel better knowing that you know. <grin>

Nedra

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > BV,
> > I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
> > It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
> > for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
> > in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
> > jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
> > humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.
> >
> > You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
> > warning out to you.
> <snip>
>
> I can't do any worse then planting them 4 feet down like I did last year.
> LOL.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Nedra]

Okay ... I feel better knowing that you know. <grin>

Nedra

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> hlink.net...
> > BV,
> > I really hate for you to do this experiment :(
> > It's okay for me but - Oh I don't know - I'd hate
> > for you to lose any tubers on my account. I've planted tubers
> > in oblong 5 x 7 containers ... and of course they did
> > jump the pots ... but they jumped whether they were in
> > humongous 24 inch diamenter pots or the smaller ones.
> >
> > You do as you want on this ... just thought I'd throw this
> > warning out to you.
> <snip>
>
> I can't do any worse then planting them 4 feet down like I did last year.
> LOL.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Sue Walsh]

"Nedra" > wrote in message .net>...
> Gosh Sue, you and your hubby.... what a great team!
> I'm forwarding this to my inbox so I can have it as I need
> to make some handles ;-) Thanks again....

Well It's nice to know that we've had a good idea or two, we've
certainly had our share of ones that didn't work so well also. This
group in general has helped us more that I can tell you!

I don't jump in often but I read posts almost every day and miss it
when all of you up north are in "freeze mode". It's nice to have you
all defrosted. Down here in sunny Florida we run all year, although
our plants do take a rest.

Enjoy your ponds!

Sue W

You can see my pond "Rippling Waters" at
http://community.webshots.com/user/aspenjd

[Sue Walsh]

"Nedra" > wrote in message .net>...
> Gosh Sue, you and your hubby.... what a great team!
> I'm forwarding this to my inbox so I can have it as I need
> to make some handles ;-) Thanks again....

Well It's nice to know that we've had a good idea or two, we've
certainly had our share of ones that didn't work so well also. This
group in general has helped us more that I can tell you!

I don't jump in often but I read posts almost every day and miss it
when all of you up north are in "freeze mode". It's nice to have you
all defrosted. Down here in sunny Florida we run all year, although
our plants do take a rest.

Enjoy your ponds!

Sue W

You can see my pond "Rippling Waters" at
http://community.webshots.com/user/aspenjd