LymnoZyme

[~ Windsong ~]

Anyone using this product? Since we've been using it there hasn't been one
fish with ulcers. We did lose one 3 year old koi this past week but there
wasn't a mark on it. It appears to have "just died."

Last breeding season they really banged themselves up and not one fish got
an infection. We had young koi to survive and grow. Thoughts? Ideas? Is
there something even better out there?

What would you guys recommend for digesting or disintegrating the mulm on
the pond bottom? It appears to be a thin later of soil from the pots,
gravel and bits of plants that fell to the bottom. Suggestions.... ?

--
Carol....
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Steve J. Noll]

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:31:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" > wrote:

>Anyone using this product? Since we've been using it there hasn't been one
>fish with ulcers. We did lose one 3 year old koi this past week but there
>wasn't a mark on it. It appears to have "just died."
>
>Last breeding season they really banged themselves up and not one fish got
>an infection. We had young koi to survive and grow. Thoughts? Ideas? Is
>there something even better out there?
>
>What would you guys recommend for digesting or disintegrating the mulm on
>the pond bottom? It appears to be a thin later of soil from the pots,
>gravel and bits of plants that fell to the bottom. Suggestions.... ?
>
>--
>Carol....
>My Webpages:
>http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) since I added the first Koi to my pond.
Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
treatment.

For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
to the lack of winter here.

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

[Steve J. Noll]

On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:31:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" > wrote:

>Anyone using this product? Since we've been using it there hasn't been one
>fish with ulcers. We did lose one 3 year old koi this past week but there
>wasn't a mark on it. It appears to have "just died."
>
>Last breeding season they really banged themselves up and not one fish got
>an infection. We had young koi to survive and grow. Thoughts? Ideas? Is
>there something even better out there?
>
>What would you guys recommend for digesting or disintegrating the mulm on
>the pond bottom? It appears to be a thin later of soil from the pots,
>gravel and bits of plants that fell to the bottom. Suggestions.... ?
>
>--
>Carol....
>My Webpages:
>http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I've used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) since I added the first Koi to my pond.
Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
treatment.

For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
to the lack of winter here.

Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
| Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv

[[email protected]]

I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so the birds
couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional scrape from
spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up fine with
just the background salt in the water. Since I moved my fish to the current pond
with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to internal
infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the netting was
put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter). with the net on there
are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is little to no
wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up and settle
out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall. I can still see a white label
and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish pulled it out
the first year.
the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump to my UV.

Ingrid

>
>I've used since I added the first Koi to my pond.
>Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
>heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
>treatment.
>
>For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
>prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
>using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
>to the lack of winter here.
>
>Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
> | Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so the birds
couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional scrape from
spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up fine with
just the background salt in the water. Since I moved my fish to the current pond
with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to internal
infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the netting was
put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter). with the net on there
are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is little to no
wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up and settle
out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall. I can still see a white label
and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish pulled it out
the first year.
the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump to my UV.

Ingrid

>
>I've used since I added the first Koi to my pond.
>Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
>heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
>treatment.
>
>For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
>prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
>using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
>to the lack of winter here.
>
>Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
> | Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Nedra]

I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
For more info go to: www.united-tech.com

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

> wrote in message
...
> I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so
the birds
> couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional
scrape from
> spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up
fine with
> just the background salt in the water. Since I moved my fish to the
current pond
> with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to
internal
> infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the
netting was
> put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter). with the
net on there
> are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is
little to no
> wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up
and settle
> out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall. I can still see a
white label
> and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish
pulled it out
> the first year.
> the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump
to my UV.
>
> Ingrid
>
> >
> >I've used since I added the first Koi to my pond.
> >Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
> >heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
> >treatment.
> >
> >For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
> >prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
> >using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
> >to the lack of winter here.
> >
> >Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
> > | Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[Nedra]

I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
For more info go to: www.united-tech.com

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

> wrote in message
...
> I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so
the birds
> couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional
scrape from
> spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up
fine with
> just the background salt in the water. Since I moved my fish to the
current pond
> with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to
internal
> infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the
netting was
> put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter). with the
net on there
> are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is
little to no
> wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up
and settle
> out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall. I can still see a
white label
> and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish
pulled it out
> the first year.
> the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump
to my UV.
>
> Ingrid
>
> >
> >I've used since I added the first Koi to my pond.
> >Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
> >heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
> >treatment.
> >
> >For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
> >prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
> >using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
> >to the lack of winter here.
> >
> >Steve J. Noll | Ventura California
> > | Glass Block Pond http://www.kissingfrogs.tv
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
>For more info go to: www.united-tech.com
>Nedra

Ditto, with Nedra.

KoiZyme, I purchased my whole season's worth this year. After removing the
screening noticed black fish had a red mark from banging his dorsal fin on
something. Added KoiZyme, even though temp was only 48F, sore is now white.

I do not want to spend this season like last season, so will keep up with
my maintenance doses of KoiZyme, BZT and feed ShoKoi..... not to mention
watch my water quality. ;o)

Word to the wise, don't let your pond hit critical mass, even those with
good training have it happen, it just takes them longer. ;o)

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
>For more info go to: www.united-tech.com
>Nedra

Ditto, with Nedra.

KoiZyme, I purchased my whole season's worth this year. After removing the
screening noticed black fish had a red mark from banging his dorsal fin on
something. Added KoiZyme, even though temp was only 48F, sore is now white.

I do not want to spend this season like last season, so will keep up with
my maintenance doses of KoiZyme, BZT and feed ShoKoi..... not to mention
watch my water quality. ;o)

Word to the wise, don't let your pond hit critical mass, even those with
good training have it happen, it just takes them longer. ;o)

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ Windsong ~]

"Steve J. Noll" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:31:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" > wrote:
> >What would you guys recommend for digesting or disintegrating the mulm on
> >the pond bottom? It appears to be a thin later of soil from the pots,
> >gravel and bits of plants that fell to the bottom. Suggestions.... ?

>> >Carol....
> >My Webpages:
> >http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I've used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) since I added the first Koi to my pond.
> Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
> heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
> treatment.

# Since we've netted our ponds there hasn't been any problems with herons.
:-)

> For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
> prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
> using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
> to the lack of winter here.

# Is it made by the same company?
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

"Steve J. Noll" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 22:31:24 -0600, "~ Windsong ~" > wrote:
> >What would you guys recommend for digesting or disintegrating the mulm on
> >the pond bottom? It appears to be a thin later of soil from the pots,
> >gravel and bits of plants that fell to the bottom. Suggestions.... ?

>> >Carol....
> >My Webpages:
> >http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> I've used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) since I added the first Koi to my pond.
> Never had an illness other than anchor worm. Lost one Koi to the
> heron. A second one was stabbed but recovered with no other
> treatment.

# Since we've netted our ponds there hasn't been any problems with herons.
:-)

> For the mulm I used Pond Care Pond-Zyme. Like the KoiZyme, I can't
> prove that it works - but it seems to, so I don't plan on stopping
> using either product any time soon! I used both year-round due
> to the lack of winter here.

# Is it made by the same company?
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

> wrote in message
...
> I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so
the birds
> couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional
scrape from
> spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up
fine with
> just the background salt in the water.

* I've stopped using salt in the water. No particular reason. I haven't
really noticed any difference since. It's been about 2 years now.

Since I moved my fish to the current pond
> with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to
internal
> infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the
netting was
> put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter).

* I've also wondered about this wildlife defecation in the water more than
once before we netted. I suspected that, along with the predator itself, it
may be bringing the disease problems to my koi and goldfish. The snapping
turtles would crap as did the bullfrogs, an occasional duck and of course
the herons probably did as well. I would sometimes see bird dropping on the
rocks around the edge.

with the net on there
> are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is
little to no
> wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up
and settle
> out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall.

* My veggie filter/settling tank needs cleaning out about once a month. I
know we have to cull again.

I can still see a white label
> and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish
pulled it out
> the first year.
> the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump
to my UV.
>
> Ingrid

* Make a clam-like box from 2 of those waterplant baskets with a hole for
the hose and electric cord. Wire them together. No snails will clog your
pump.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

> wrote in message
...
> I have never used KoiZyme (LymnoZyme) and since I have netted the pond so
the birds
> couldnt get to the water have had no problems. Actually, occasional
scrape from
> spawnings and one deep gouge due to a hook I had badly placed healed up
fine with
> just the background salt in the water.

* I've stopped using salt in the water. No particular reason. I haven't
really noticed any difference since. It's been about 2 years now.

Since I moved my fish to the current pond
> with the big veggie filter I have lost one orfe to jumping, 2 fish to
internal
> infection of the eggs confirmed by necropsy (2 years ago that is when the
netting was
> put on to keep the birds from crapping in the veggie filter).

* I've also wondered about this wildlife defecation in the water more than
once before we netted. I suspected that, along with the predator itself, it
may be bringing the disease problems to my koi and goldfish. The snapping
turtles would crap as did the bullfrogs, an occasional duck and of course
the herons probably did as well. I would sometimes see bird dropping on the
rocks around the edge.

with the net on there
> are few to no leaves in the pond. with the high quality food there is
little to no
> wastes accumulating on the bottom either. wastes seem to get sucked up
and settle
> out in the veggie filter which is cleaned out in fall.

* My veggie filter/settling tank needs cleaning out about once a month. I
know we have to cull again.

I can still see a white label
> and pea gravel from one of the water lilies on the bottom. the fish
pulled it out
> the first year.
> the only problem I got is $%%^^&& snails and they close down the itty pump
to my UV.
>
> Ingrid

* Make a clam-like box from 2 of those waterplant baskets with a hole for
the hose and electric cord. Wire them together. No snails will clog your
pump.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
> For more info go to: www.united-tech.com
>
> Nedra
=======================
Thanks Nedra. We added more water movement this spring and this keeps the
"stuff" in suspension so the filter can better catch it. More is definitely
settling out in the settling-tank/plant filter as well. There's less on the
bottom this spring than usual. We're going to start draining these ponds
every 2 years instead of every year. It's just too much work to do every
year.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[~ Windsong ~]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> I use BZT as an additive ... probably similar to Pond Zyme.
> For more info go to: www.united-tech.com
>
> Nedra
=======================
Thanks Nedra. We added more water movement this spring and this keeps the
"stuff" in suspension so the filter can better catch it. More is definitely
settling out in the settling-tank/plant filter as well. There's less on the
bottom this spring than usual. We're going to start draining these ponds
every 2 years instead of every year. It's just too much work to do every
year.
--
Carol....
"My house was clean last week, too bad you missed it."
My Webpages:
http://.www.heartoftn.net/users/windsong/index.html
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~