What kind of salt to get

[KRF]

Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
Thanks

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water softening salt, no additives, crystals and in a plastic bag, not paper. it is
often called solar salt. usually at the food store. Ingrid

(KRF) wrote:

>Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>Thanks



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water softening salt, no additives, crystals and in a plastic bag, not paper. it is
often called solar salt. usually at the food store. Ingrid

(KRF) wrote:

>Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>Thanks



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[Hal]

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:41:37 -0400, (KRF) wrote:

>Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>Thanks

Solar salt for water softeners is almost 100% pure salt.

Regards,

Hal

[Hal]

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 08:41:37 -0400, (KRF) wrote:

>Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>Thanks

Solar salt for water softeners is almost 100% pure salt.

Regards,

Hal

[volts500]

"KRF" > wrote in message
...
> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
> Thanks

Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
just with an expensive price tag.

[volts500]

"KRF" > wrote in message
...
> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
> Thanks

Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
just with an expensive price tag.

[Hal]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> wrote:

>
>"KRF" > wrote in message
...
>> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>> Thanks
>
>Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
>Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
>results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
>using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
>does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
>that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
>just with an expensive price tag.
>
Wouldn't it be better to check hardness (GH) before adding calcium or
magnesium?

Regards,

Hal

[Hal]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> wrote:

>
>"KRF" > wrote in message
...
>> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>> Thanks
>
>Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
>Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
>results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
>using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
>does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
>that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
>just with an expensive price tag.
>
Wouldn't it be better to check hardness (GH) before adding calcium or
magnesium?

Regards,

Hal

[Mike Patterson]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> wrote:

>
>"KRF" > wrote in message
...
>> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>> Thanks
>
>Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
>Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
>results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
>using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
>does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
>that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
>just with an expensive price tag.
>
how about "kosher" salt?

I keep it around for margarita glasses, I guess I could share it with
my little pisce friends.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.

[Mike Patterson]

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> wrote:

>
>"KRF" > wrote in message
...
>> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
>> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
>> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
>> Thanks
>
>Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
>Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
>results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
>using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener salt
>does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt, IMHO,
>that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
>just with an expensive price tag.
>
how about "kosher" salt?

I keep it around for margarita glasses, I guess I could share it with
my little pisce friends.

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.

[Lee B.]

The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something that's
used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . . but if
you're only using a small amount of it, it won't kill them (the *first*
time, at least <s>). Keep it for the margueritas (or other cooking!).

Lee

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> >> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> >> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> >> Thanks
> >
> >Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> >Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> >results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> >using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> >does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> >that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> >just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> how about "kosher" salt?
>
> I keep it around for margarita glasses, I guess I could share it with
> my little pisce friends.
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.

[Lee B.]

The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something that's
used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . . but if
you're only using a small amount of it, it won't kill them (the *first*
time, at least <s>). Keep it for the margueritas (or other cooking!).

Lee

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
>
>
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> >> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> >> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> >> Thanks
> >
> >Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> >Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> >results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> >using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> >does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> >that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> >just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> how about "kosher" salt?
>
> I keep it around for margarita glasses, I guess I could share it with
> my little pisce friends.
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.

[Lee B.]

Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
fish.

Lee


"volts500" > wrote in message
...
>
> "KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
> > Thanks
>
> Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> just with an expensive price tag.
>
>

[Lee B.]

Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
fish.

Lee


"volts500" > wrote in message
...
>
> "KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener salt?
> > Thanks
>
> Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> just with an expensive price tag.
>
>

[volts500]

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
> blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
> fish.
>
> Lee

OK, thanks. Is that Morton in the blue bag rock salt or water softener
salt?


> "volts500" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "KRF" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> > > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> > Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields
better
> > results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> > using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
> salt
> > does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
> IMHO,
> > that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock
salt,
> > just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> >
>
>
>

[volts500]

"Lee B." > wrote in message
...
> Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
> blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
> fish.
>
> Lee

OK, thanks. Is that Morton in the blue bag rock salt or water softener
salt?


> "volts500" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "KRF" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> > > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> > Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields
better
> > results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> > using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
> salt
> > does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
> IMHO,
> > that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock
salt,
> > just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> >
>
>
>

[volts500]

"Hal" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> >> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> >> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> >> Thanks
> >
> >Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> >Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> >results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> >using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> >does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> >that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> >just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> Wouldn't it be better to check hardness (GH) before adding calcium or
> magnesium?
>
> Regards,
>
> Hal

I'd think that if the GH were changed significantly by adding salt that the
salt level would be way over what the fish could take anyway.

[volts500]

"Hal" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 21:07:35 GMT, "volts500"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"KRF" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store sells
> >> jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> >> don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
salt?
> >> Thanks
> >
> >Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not only
> >Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields better
> >results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared to
> >using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water softener
salt
> >does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
IMHO,
> >that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock salt,
> >just with an expensive price tag.
> >
> Wouldn't it be better to check hardness (GH) before adding calcium or
> magnesium?
>
> Regards,
>
> Hal

I'd think that if the GH were changed significantly by adding salt that the
salt level would be way over what the fish could take anyway.

[Sue Walsh]

"Lee B." > wrote in message >...
> The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something that's
> used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . .

Lee,
My box of Kosher Salt says ingredients: Salt

Nothing else listed, does that mean it's OK to use for the fish?

Sue W

[Sue Walsh]

"Lee B." > wrote in message >...
> The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something that's
> used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . .

Lee,
My box of Kosher Salt says ingredients: Salt

Nothing else listed, does that mean it's OK to use for the fish?

Sue W

[Lee B.]

It's just rock salt used for water softeners. Or icy sidewalks, but we don't
live there <G>. Just don't get the pellets (yellow bag). You want plain ol'
rock salt. (I have a water softener that I use the yellow bag for, and then
I have the blue bag that I use for the pond. Every once in awhile, when my
husband gets in a "helpful" mood, he'll dump my fish salt in the water
softener to top it off. Oh well - it's cheap!)

Lee



"volts500" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
> > blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
> > fish.
> >
> > Lee
>
> OK, thanks. Is that Morton in the blue bag rock salt or water softener
> salt?
>
>
> > "volts500" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "KRF" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store
sells
> > > > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > > > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
> salt?
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not
only
> > > Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields
> better
> > > results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared
to
> > > using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water
softener
> > salt
> > > does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
> > IMHO,
> > > that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock
> salt,
> > > just with an expensive price tag.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Lee B.]

It's just rock salt used for water softeners. Or icy sidewalks, but we don't
live there <G>. Just don't get the pellets (yellow bag). You want plain ol'
rock salt. (I have a water softener that I use the yellow bag for, and then
I have the blue bag that I use for the pond. Every once in awhile, when my
husband gets in a "helpful" mood, he'll dump my fish salt in the water
softener to top it off. Oh well - it's cheap!)

Lee



"volts500" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Volts, go to Home Depot, Lowe's, whatever and get the Morton Salt in the
> > blue bag. You'll get 20 lbs. of it for about $3.00 or so. It's fine for
> > fish.
> >
> > Lee
>
> OK, thanks. Is that Morton in the blue bag rock salt or water softener
> salt?
>
>
> > "volts500" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "KRF" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Just need to know what kind of salt to buy, my local pond store
sells
> > > > jars for 20.00 each. There has to be a cheaper alternative, I just
> > > > don't know what. Can I use un iodized table salt? Water softener
> salt?
> > > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Don't use iodized salt. Rock salt is best because it contains not
only
> > > Sodium salt, but Calcium and Magnesium salts as well, which yields
> better
> > > results when trying to improve the fishes osmoregulation as compared
to
> > > using pure NaCl (water softener salt). 99.9 % pure NaCl water
softener
> > salt
> > > does work and is inexpensive, however if you can find bulk rock salt,
> > IMHO,
> > > that would be preferred. "Aquarium Salt" and "Pond Salt" _is_ rock
> salt,
> > > just with an expensive price tag.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Lee B.]

Hey Sue! Yeh - if there's nothing else in it but salt - but trust me: a 3
lb. box of kosher salt won't do jack-diddly for a pond's salt level. And
it's expensive compared to a 20 lb. bag of rock salt. Shoot - you can buy
the rock salt at the grocery store (I know Publix and Winn-Dixie carries
it) - it's more expensive than at Home Depot, but you won't have to make the
extra stop.

Lee


"Sue Walsh" > wrote in message
om...
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
>...
> > The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something
that's
> > used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . .
>
> Lee,
> My box of Kosher Salt says ingredients: Salt
>
> Nothing else listed, does that mean it's OK to use for the fish?
>
> Sue W

[Lee B.]

Hey Sue! Yeh - if there's nothing else in it but salt - but trust me: a 3
lb. box of kosher salt won't do jack-diddly for a pond's salt level. And
it's expensive compared to a 20 lb. bag of rock salt. Shoot - you can buy
the rock salt at the grocery store (I know Publix and Winn-Dixie carries
it) - it's more expensive than at Home Depot, but you won't have to make the
extra stop.

Lee


"Sue Walsh" > wrote in message
om...
> "Lee B." > wrote in message
>...
> > The lasts time I looked, kosher salt has/d YSP, which is something
that's
> > used to keep the salt from clumping. It's not good for gills . . .
>
> Lee,
> My box of Kosher Salt says ingredients: Salt
>
> Nothing else listed, does that mean it's OK to use for the fish?
>
> Sue W