Pond Foam

[Charles]

I had an experience with foam building up on the pond where the water
from the filter returns via a small stream like feature. Foam would
be as much as 4 inches high and would appear in the morning, to
dissipate during the day.

I thought it might just be from DOC, so I put in a small bad of
carbon, that did nothing that I could tell. I did a complete water
change, spring cleaning in the pond, and the foam persisted.

Then I got rid of most of the parrot's feather, Myriophyllum
aquaticum, and the problem went away, now I just have small (dime size
or less) spots of foam that drift to the nearest leaf.

I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
if anyone else has had similar experience.


--

- Charles
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-does not play well with others

[jammer]

All i can add is that i had the foam build up in my hot tub when the
total PH wasn't right.






On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
wrote:

>I had an experience with foam building up on the pond where the water
>from the filter returns via a small stream like feature. Foam would
>be as much as 4 inches high and would appear in the morning, to
>dissipate during the day.
>
>I thought it might just be from DOC, so I put in a small bad of
>carbon, that did nothing that I could tell. I did a complete water
>change, spring cleaning in the pond, and the foam persisted.
>
>Then I got rid of most of the parrot's feather, Myriophyllum
>aquaticum, and the problem went away, now I just have small (dime
size
>or less) spots of foam that drift to the nearest leaf.
>
>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

[jammer]

All i can add is that i had the foam build up in my hot tub when the
total PH wasn't right.






On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
wrote:

>I had an experience with foam building up on the pond where the water
>from the filter returns via a small stream like feature. Foam would
>be as much as 4 inches high and would appear in the morning, to
>dissipate during the day.
>
>I thought it might just be from DOC, so I put in a small bad of
>carbon, that did nothing that I could tell. I did a complete water
>change, spring cleaning in the pond, and the foam persisted.
>
>Then I got rid of most of the parrot's feather, Myriophyllum
>aquaticum, and the problem went away, now I just have small (dime
size
>or less) spots of foam that drift to the nearest leaf.
>
>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Foam in spring is often caused by pollen. Look around the pond, what's in
bloom? Trees are especially bad right now. You can check your pollen
situation at weather.com. ~ jan


>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles > wrote:

>I had an experience with foam building up on the pond where the water
>from the filter returns via a small stream like feature. Foam would
>be as much as 4 inches high and would appear in the morning, to
>dissipate during the day.
>
>I thought it might just be from DOC, so I put in a small bad of
>carbon, that did nothing that I could tell. I did a complete water
>change, spring cleaning in the pond, and the foam persisted.
>
>Then I got rid of most of the parrot's feather, Myriophyllum
>aquaticum, and the problem went away, now I just have small (dime size
>or less) spots of foam that drift to the nearest leaf.
>
>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Foam in spring is often caused by pollen. Look around the pond, what's in
bloom? Trees are especially bad right now. You can check your pollen
situation at weather.com. ~ jan


>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles > wrote:

>I had an experience with foam building up on the pond where the water
>from the filter returns via a small stream like feature. Foam would
>be as much as 4 inches high and would appear in the morning, to
>dissipate during the day.
>
>I thought it might just be from DOC, so I put in a small bad of
>carbon, that did nothing that I could tell. I did a complete water
>change, spring cleaning in the pond, and the foam persisted.
>
>Then I got rid of most of the parrot's feather, Myriophyllum
>aquaticum, and the problem went away, now I just have small (dime size
>or less) spots of foam that drift to the nearest leaf.
>
>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Hal]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
wrote:

>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

Parrot feather is my veggie filter in the winter and I never see foam
when the fish aren't spawning. I pulled a few handfuls the other day
and threw it into the fish pond and the fish began eating the snails
off it and spawning on it. I saw foam then.

Regards,

Hal

[Hal]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
wrote:

>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>if anyone else has had similar experience.

Parrot feather is my veggie filter in the winter and I never see foam
when the fish aren't spawning. I pulled a few handfuls the other day
and threw it into the fish pond and the fish began eating the snails
off it and spawning on it. I saw foam then.

Regards,

Hal

[Charles]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:22:42 -0400, Hal > wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
>wrote:
>
>>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>>if anyone else has had similar experience.
>
>Parrot feather is my veggie filter in the winter and I never see foam
>when the fish aren't spawning. I pulled a few handfuls the other day
>and threw it into the fish pond and the fish began eating the snails
>off it and spawning on it. I saw foam then.
>
>Regards,
>
>Hal


Another perfectly good theory ruined.
This didn't seem like the spawning foam, seemed different somehow.

It's gone now, so it will remain a mystery

Thanks to all.


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[Charles]

On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 13:22:42 -0400, Hal > wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 02:44:13 GMT, Charles >
>wrote:
>
>>I don't know that the parrot's feather was causing the foam, I wonder
>>if anyone else has had similar experience.
>
>Parrot feather is my veggie filter in the winter and I never see foam
>when the fish aren't spawning. I pulled a few handfuls the other day
>and threw it into the fish pond and the fish began eating the snails
>off it and spawning on it. I saw foam then.
>
>Regards,
>
>Hal


Another perfectly good theory ruined.
This didn't seem like the spawning foam, seemed different somehow.

It's gone now, so it will remain a mystery

Thanks to all.


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[Steele family]

I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
decomposing. Could it be this?

Alan

[Steele family]

I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
decomposing. Could it be this?

Alan

[Charles]

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:30:04 +0000 (UTC), "Steele family"
> wrote:

>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>decomposing. Could it be this?
>
>Alan
>
I don't think so, I only have one frog (as far as I know) and haven't
seen any evidence of him spawning. It's a small pond, only about 350
gallons and not much wild life. The foam didn't look like what I have
from the goldfish spawning, it had a different appearance. It hasn't
occurred since I got rid of most of the plants, still a mystery.


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[Charles]

On Fri, 16 Apr 2004 15:30:04 +0000 (UTC), "Steele family"
> wrote:

>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>decomposing. Could it be this?
>
>Alan
>
I don't think so, I only have one frog (as far as I know) and haven't
seen any evidence of him spawning. It's a small pond, only about 350
gallons and not much wild life. The foam didn't look like what I have
from the goldfish spawning, it had a different appearance. It hasn't
occurred since I got rid of most of the plants, still a mystery.


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>decomposing. Could it be this?
>Alan

Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the tomatoes.
~ jan


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>decomposing. Could it be this?
>Alan

Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the tomatoes.
~ jan


~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Charles]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>>decomposing. Could it be this?
>>Alan
>
>Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
>foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
>lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
>drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the tomatoes.
>~ jan
>
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)


The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.

No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[Charles]

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
>>decomposing. Could it be this?
>>Alan
>
>Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
>foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
>lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
>drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the tomatoes.
>~ jan
>
>
> ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)


The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.

No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)


--

- Charles
-
-does not play well with others

[Nedra]

Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
still isn't anywhere under control.

This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!

I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.

Nedra

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"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > wrote:
>
> >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> >>Alan
> >
> >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
> >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
> >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
tomatoes.
> >~ jan
> >
> >
> > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
>
>
> The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
>
> No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
>
>
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[Nedra]

Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
still isn't anywhere under control.

This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!

I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.

Nedra

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http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Charles" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > wrote:
>
> >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> >>Alan
> >
> >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can cause
> >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on the
> >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
tomatoes.
> >~ jan
> >
> >
> > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
>
>
> The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
>
> No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
>
>
> --
>
> - Charles
> -
> -does not play well with others

[RichToyBox]

Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry for
us.
Congratulations.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Nedra" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> still isn't anywhere under control.
>
> This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
>
> I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
>
> Nedra
>
> --
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> "Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > >>Alan
> > >
> > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
cause
> > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on
the
> > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> tomatoes.
> > >~ jan
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> >
> >
> > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> >
> > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Charles
> > -
> > -does not play well with others
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry for
us.
Congratulations.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Nedra" > wrote in message
k.net...
> Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> still isn't anywhere under control.
>
> This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
>
> I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
>
> Nedra
>
> --
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> "Charles" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > >>Alan
> > >
> > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
cause
> > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on
the
> > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> tomatoes.
> > >~ jan
> > >
> > >
> > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> >
> >
> > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> >
> > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > - Charles
> > -
> > -does not play well with others
>
>

[Nedra]

Oh Rich Thanks - but
I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry
for
> us.
> Congratulations.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > still isn't anywhere under control.
> >
> > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> >
> > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> >
> > Nedra
> >
> > --
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > >>Alan
> > > >
> > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
> cause
> > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on
> the
> > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > tomatoes.
> > > >~ jan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > >
> > >
> > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > >
> > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Charles
> > > -
> > > -does not play well with others
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

Oh Rich Thanks - but
I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry
for
> us.
> Congratulations.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> k.net...
> > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > still isn't anywhere under control.
> >
> > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> >
> > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> >
> > Nedra
> >
> > --
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn is
> > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > >>Alan
> > > >
> > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
> cause
> > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none on
> the
> > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find any
> > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > tomatoes.
> > > >~ jan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > >
> > >
> > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > >
> > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the area
> > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Charles
> > > -
> > > -does not play well with others
> >
> >
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Its the high protein diet of the fish, namely eggs that creates the
additional ammonia and subsequent nitrites. The few babies that will make
it are nothing, as far as load goes.
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"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Oh Rich Thanks - but
> I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
> to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
> in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "RichToyBox" > wrote in message
> news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> > Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry
> for
> > us.
> > Congratulations.
> > --
> > RichToyBox
> > http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > k.net...
> > > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > > still isn't anywhere under control.
> > >
> > > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> > >
> > > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn
is
> > > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > > >>Alan
> > > > >
> > > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
> > cause
> > > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none
on
> > the
> > > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find
any
> > > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > > tomatoes.
> > > > >~ jan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > > >
> > > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the
area
> > > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > - Charles
> > > > -
> > > > -does not play well with others
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[RichToyBox]

Its the high protein diet of the fish, namely eggs that creates the
additional ammonia and subsequent nitrites. The few babies that will make
it are nothing, as far as load goes.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Oh Rich Thanks - but
> I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
> to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
> in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "RichToyBox" > wrote in message
> news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> > Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and worry
> for
> > us.
> > Congratulations.
> > --
> > RichToyBox
> > http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > k.net...
> > > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > > still isn't anywhere under control.
> > >
> > > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> > >
> > > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn
is
> > > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > > >>Alan
> > > > >
> > > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen can
> > cause
> > > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and none
on
> > the
> > > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find
any
> > > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > > tomatoes.
> > > > >~ jan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > > >
> > > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the
area
> > > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > - Charles
> > > > -
> > > > -does not play well with others
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

Rich, I'm looking at koi that were mere eggs a couple of
seasons ago! LOL ... I haven't purchased a koi since 1998.
I have the 6 or 7 originals and their babies.... that is all. It
amounts to 14 fish! Most all of them did the spawning...

I'm keeping an eye on the nitrites and ammonia... thanks for
the reminder.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
news:NLihc.7551$GR.904399@attbi_s01...
> Its the high protein diet of the fish, namely eggs that creates the
> additional ammonia and subsequent nitrites. The few babies that will make
> it are nothing, as far as load goes.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Oh Rich Thanks - but
> > I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
> > to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
> > in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "RichToyBox" > wrote in message
> > news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> > > Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and
worry
> > for
> > > us.
> > > Congratulations.
> > > --
> > > RichToyBox
> > > http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > k.net...
> > > > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > > > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > > > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > > > still isn't anywhere under control.
> > > >
> > > > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > > > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > > > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> > > >
> > > > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > > > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > > > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> > > >
> > > > Nedra
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn
> is
> > > > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > > > >>Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen
can
> > > cause
> > > > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and
none
> on
> > > the
> > > > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find
> any
> > > > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > > > tomatoes.
> > > > > >~ jan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > > > >
> > > > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the
> area
> > > > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > - Charles
> > > > > -
> > > > > -does not play well with others
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

Rich, I'm looking at koi that were mere eggs a couple of
seasons ago! LOL ... I haven't purchased a koi since 1998.
I have the 6 or 7 originals and their babies.... that is all. It
amounts to 14 fish! Most all of them did the spawning...

I'm keeping an eye on the nitrites and ammonia... thanks for
the reminder.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"RichToyBox" > wrote in message
news:NLihc.7551$GR.904399@attbi_s01...
> Its the high protein diet of the fish, namely eggs that creates the
> additional ammonia and subsequent nitrites. The few babies that will make
> it are nothing, as far as load goes.
> --
> RichToyBox
> http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Oh Rich Thanks - but
> > I'M hoping they have eaten all the eggs! I would hate
> > to have to find homes for babies... and at the rate I've gone
> > in years past, I get waaay too attached - complicated. ;-)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "RichToyBox" > wrote in message
> > news:%o%gc.1664$GR.223279@attbi_s01...
> > > Keep an eye on the nitrites. Fun for them usually means work and
worry
> > for
> > > us.
> > > Congratulations.
> > > --
> > > RichToyBox
> > > http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > k.net...
> > > > Speaking of Spawning! Wow! My 9 guys and 2 gals have
> > > > foamed up the pond, lilies torn asunder, pots upside down, and
> > > > tons of Foam... I have been netting it out for 24 hours and it
> > > > still isn't anywhere under control.
> > > >
> > > > This is the first time these koi have have gone Crazy... these guys
> > > > are nine years old. I kept my eyes on the two females - they
> > > > seemed somewhat fatigued but nothing they couldn't handle! LOL!
> > > >
> > > > I ran water tests last evening - all parameters within range.
> > > > Good thing I was transferring water at 310 gallons per hour.
> > > > De-Chlored of course. Now will add Koi-Zyme.
> > > >
> > > > Nedra
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > > "Charles" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 19:10:58 GMT, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>I get a foamy surface after the frogs have spawned and the spawn
> is
> > > > > >>decomposing. Could it be this?
> > > > > >>Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Not the spawn, but the male addition to the deed, and/or pollen
can
> > > cause
> > > > > >foaming, but we've had lots of pollen blowing around here and
none
> on
> > > the
> > > > > >lily pond till the frogs got hot & heavy. Hopefully I won't find
> any
> > > > > >drowned in their passion like last year, one young couple fed the
> > > > tomatoes.
> > > > > >~ jan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ~ jan (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The mystery is solved, it was the goldfish spawning after all.
> > > > >
> > > > > No pollen yet (plant kind) that comes later in the year when the
> area
> > > > > turns yellow from the neighbor's tree. (I don't like that tree)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > - Charles
> > > > > -
> > > > > -does not play well with others
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>