Newbie - How many fish?

[JJG]

My daughter got a 5 gallon tank kit for the holidays. We have an
African Dwarf Frog and a small tetra in the tank. We'd like to get
another frog and perhaps 1-2 more fish. How many fish can safely live
in a 5 gallon tank? Would a ctfish be a good idea (to help keep the
tank clean)?

Thanks in advance for you help!

[reefman MC]

You could probably keep about 8 2-3 inch fish and maybe 12 1 inch fish,
but I definately wouldn't overload it. I would get a couple of guppies.
Also the frog isn't one of those big white frogs is he? If so he'll eat
your fish.


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[reefman MC]

Oh and the catfish. Wait a couple of weeks and let the tank get built up
with algae, and get one corydoras and an otocinclus. Corydoras catfish
for the waste and the otocinclus for the algae.


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[Dragon Slayer]

>
> You could probably keep about 8 2-3 inch fish and maybe 12 1 inch fish,
> but I definately wouldn't overload it. I would get a couple of guppies.
> Also the frog isn't one of those big white frogs is he? If so he'll eat
> your fish.


in a 5 gallon tank? that has to be the most ridiculous advice I have ever
seen given on this board, even by a troll.

in a 5 gallon tank, you don't need to add any more then 2 or 3 fish in the
1-2 inch range.

and even then it will need proper husbandry to maintain water quality.

kc

[John B]

I second that.

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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> >
> > You could probably keep about 8 2-3 inch fish and maybe 12 1 inch fish,
> > but I definately wouldn't overload it. I would get a couple of guppies.
> > Also the frog isn't one of those big white frogs is he? If so he'll eat
> > your fish.
>
>
> in a 5 gallon tank? that has to be the most ridiculous advice I have ever
> seen given on this board, even by a troll.
>
> in a 5 gallon tank, you don't need to add any more then 2 or 3 fish in the
> 1-2 inch range.
>
> and even then it will need proper husbandry to maintain water quality.
>
> kc
>
>
>
>

[reefman MC]

I'm not a freshwater man I was giving advice according to something in a
book. Sorry


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[Fish Rule]

Yeah, in all the advice I've ever gotten, they said 1 inch or less per gallon.

[reefman MC]

Everybody makes mistakes.


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[Dragon Slayer]

that's a good rule for freshwater fish, but not marine.

kc

"Fish Rule" > wrote in message
om...
> Yeah, in all the advice I've ever gotten, they said 1 inch or less per
gallon.

[CapFusion]

"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
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> that's a good rule for freshwater fish, but not marine.
>
Actually, it does not really apply for either SW nor FW. Someone made this
up awhile back when aquarium was just getting started. It really depend on
the fish of it species.

CapFusion,...

[Dragon Slayer]

well Cap if you had read his/her post that I replied to, it was 1" or LESS
per gallon as a rule. I think regardless of the species that would hold
true.

kc


"CapFusion" > wrote in message
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>
> "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> ...
> > that's a good rule for freshwater fish, but not marine.
> >
> Actually, it does not really apply for either SW nor FW. Someone made this
> up awhile back when aquarium was just getting started. It really depend on
> the fish of it species.
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

[JJG]

Thanks to all for the replies. I added a Panda Cory and will probably
add 1 more frog and perhaps a second tetra - that will leave us with 5
total animals under 1" - now if I can only convince my wife to let me
upgrade to a 30-50 gallon tank........


"Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message >...
> well Cap if you had read his/her post that I replied to, it was 1" or LESS
> per gallon as a rule. I think regardless of the species that would hold
> true.
>
> kc
>
>
> "CapFusion" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Dragon Slayer" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > that's a good rule for freshwater fish, but not marine.
> > >
> > Actually, it does not really apply for either SW nor FW. Someone made this
> > up awhile back when aquarium was just getting started. It really depend on
> > the fish of it species.
> >
> > CapFusion,...
> >
> >

[BiG_Orange]

"Fish Rule" > wrote in message
om...
> Yeah, in all the advice I've ever gotten, they said 1 inch or less per
gallon.

Those rules do not apply in "pretend" tanks. You need to get a Betta if you
want long lasting long term fish.

Also, you don't ever add algae eating fish to a new tank
because......there's no algae!

Let is know when all those fish you bought die, I give them 1 month max.

[JJG]

Wow - thanks for the encouraging note. I've had the "pretend" tank
now for about a month and the fish are doing fine. I'm going to stick
to my current 3 until I purchase a larger tank.


"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message >...
> "Fish Rule" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Yeah, in all the advice I've ever gotten, they said 1 inch or less per
> gallon.
>
> Those rules do not apply in "pretend" tanks. You need to get a Betta if you
> want long lasting long term fish.
>
> Also, you don't ever add algae eating fish to a new tank
> because......there's no algae!
>
> Let is know when all those fish you bought die, I give them 1 month max.

[BiG_Orange]

"JJG" > wrote in message
om...
> Wow - thanks for the encouraging note. I've had the "pretend" tank
> now for about a month and the fish are doing fine.

You've not had anything for a month. Today is the 13th. I'm not an internet
troll, I know what I am talking about. Your fish will not live long term
which is a great injustice to the animals. When your fish die, will you be
honest enough to come back and verify so other reading the archives in the
future don't needlessly kill off fish in glorified bowls?


B.O.

[JJG]

It's been a month. The fish are doing fine. The biological filter
has kicked in and all of the water readings are in the appropriate
ranges. B.O. I'll keep you posted as my fish live long healthy lives.
Thanks.

"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message >...
> "JJG" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Wow - thanks for the encouraging note. I've had the "pretend" tank
> > now for about a month and the fish are doing fine.
>
> You've not had anything for a month. Today is the 13th. I'm not an internet
> troll, I know what I am talking about. Your fish will not live long term
> which is a great injustice to the animals. When your fish die, will you be
> honest enough to come back and verify so other reading the archives in the
> future don't needlessly kill off fish in glorified bowls?
>
>
> B.O.

[BiG_Orange]

"JJG" > wrote in message
om...
> It's been a month. The fish are doing fine. The biological filter
> has kicked in and all of the water readings are in the appropriate
> ranges. B.O. I'll keep you posted as my fish live long healthy lives.
> Thanks.

I want the fish tagged, and photos.

[JJG]

I'll get right on that. Thanks!

"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message >...
> "JJG" > wrote in message
> om...
> > It's been a month. The fish are doing fine. The biological filter
> > has kicked in and all of the water readings are in the appropriate
> > ranges. B.O. I'll keep you posted as my fish live long healthy lives.
> > Thanks.
>
> I want the fish tagged, and photos.

[surewest]

I bet you would have been discouraged when you were
just starting out and had asked someone like yourself for advice.
Give JJG a break and some Positive feed back..


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"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message ...
> "JJG" > wrote in message
> om...
> > It's been a month. The fish are doing fine. The biological filter
> > has kicked in and all of the water readings are in the appropriate
> > ranges. B.O. I'll keep you posted as my fish live long healthy lives.
> > Thanks.
>
> I want the fish tagged, and photos.
>
>