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Destroyallx
May 1st 04, 03:06 PM
i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a couple of potted
lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice waterfall...
recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green color...is this an algea
bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something i just havta be
patient with? let me know. thanx
Gail Futoran
May 1st 04, 05:40 PM
"Destroyallx" > wrote in message
.. .
> i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
couple of potted
> lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
waterfall...
> recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
color...is this an algea
> bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
i just havta be
> patient with? let me know. thanx
A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
month or so, ask again, but provide more
information to diagnose the problem, like water
test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
load (if any) - anything that might affect the
balance in the pond, including where you live!
There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
exploring them.
http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
HTH - Gail
near San Antonio TX
Gail Futoran
May 1st 04, 05:40 PM
"Destroyallx" > wrote in message
.. .
> i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
couple of potted
> lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
waterfall...
> recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
color...is this an algea
> bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
i just havta be
> patient with? let me know. thanx
A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
month or so, ask again, but provide more
information to diagnose the problem, like water
test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
load (if any) - anything that might affect the
balance in the pond, including where you live!
There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
exploring them.
http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
HTH - Gail
near San Antonio TX
Remydog
May 1st 04, 05:54 PM
Welcome to our world! Where are you located? If it's warm and in the sun,
you might have an algae problem. Solutions include finding a pond-friendly
algaecide, installing lots of oxygenating plants, installing a u.v. light,
better aeration to the water or a combination of all of the above.
Do you have fish?
"Destroyallx" > wrote in message
.. .
> i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a couple of
potted
> lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice waterfall...
> recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green color...is this an
algea
> bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something i just havta be
> patient with? let me know. thanx
>
>
Remydog
May 1st 04, 05:54 PM
Welcome to our world! Where are you located? If it's warm and in the sun,
you might have an algae problem. Solutions include finding a pond-friendly
algaecide, installing lots of oxygenating plants, installing a u.v. light,
better aeration to the water or a combination of all of the above.
Do you have fish?
"Destroyallx" > wrote in message
.. .
> i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a couple of
potted
> lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice waterfall...
> recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green color...is this an
algea
> bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something i just havta be
> patient with? let me know. thanx
>
>
Mike Patterson
May 1st 04, 08:33 PM
On Sat, 01 May 2004 14:06:54 GMT, "Destroyallx"
> wrote:
>i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a couple of potted
>lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice waterfall...
>recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green color...is this an algea
>bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something i just havta be
>patient with? let me know. thanx
>
Green is algae, that's to be expected (probably 80% of questions here
are related to algae), but brown may be silt.
How does ground water /rainwater flow around your pond? I finally had
to dig a small trench all around the uphill side of my pond to keep
most of the the rain runoff out.
HTH
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
Mike Patterson
May 1st 04, 08:33 PM
On Sat, 01 May 2004 14:06:54 GMT, "Destroyallx"
> wrote:
>i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a couple of potted
>lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice waterfall...
>recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green color...is this an algea
>bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something i just havta be
>patient with? let me know. thanx
>
Green is algae, that's to be expected (probably 80% of questions here
are related to algae), but brown may be silt.
How does ground water /rainwater flow around your pond? I finally had
to dig a small trench all around the uphill side of my pond to keep
most of the the rain runoff out.
HTH
Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
Destroyallx
May 1st 04, 09:06 PM
ok...
the pond is located in my front yard in the hudson valley area of new york
(upstate ny). there are 3 small koi, 3 large gold fish and 2 shubkins. The
pond liner is 20x20 so..idk how many gallons..but its circular, and about a
maximum of 18inches deep. it never recieves any natural shade, unless its
cloudy!.....
remember the pond is under a month old...so may be a bloom??
this help?? thanx!!
john
"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
...
> "Destroyallx" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
> couple of potted
> > lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
> waterfall...
> > recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
> color...is this an algea
> > bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
> i just havta be
> > patient with? let me know. thanx
>
> A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
> if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
> month or so, ask again, but provide more
> information to diagnose the problem, like water
> test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
> load (if any) - anything that might affect the
> balance in the pond, including where you live!
>
> There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
> few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
> site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
> others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
> exploring them.
> http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
> http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
> http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
>
> HTH - Gail
> near San Antonio TX
>
>
Destroyallx
May 1st 04, 09:06 PM
ok...
the pond is located in my front yard in the hudson valley area of new york
(upstate ny). there are 3 small koi, 3 large gold fish and 2 shubkins. The
pond liner is 20x20 so..idk how many gallons..but its circular, and about a
maximum of 18inches deep. it never recieves any natural shade, unless its
cloudy!.....
remember the pond is under a month old...so may be a bloom??
this help?? thanx!!
john
"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
...
> "Destroyallx" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
> couple of potted
> > lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
> waterfall...
> > recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
> color...is this an algea
> > bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
> i just havta be
> > patient with? let me know. thanx
>
> A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
> if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
> month or so, ask again, but provide more
> information to diagnose the problem, like water
> test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
> load (if any) - anything that might affect the
> balance in the pond, including where you live!
>
> There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
> few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
> site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
> others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
> exploring them.
> http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
>
> http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
> http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
> http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
>
> HTH - Gail
> near San Antonio TX
>
>
~ jan JJsPond.us
May 1st 04, 09:49 PM
If it is circular, whats the diameter? You need to purchase test kits:
ammonia, nitrite, pH, & KH and a thermometer. What is your filtration set
up? How many gallons per hour are you turning over? ~ jan
See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website
>On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:06:14 GMT, "Destroyallx" > wrote:
>ok...
>the pond is located in my front yard in the hudson valley area of new york
>(upstate ny). there are 3 small koi, 3 large gold fish and 2 shubkins. The
>pond liner is 20x20 so..idk how many gallons..but its circular, and about a
>maximum of 18inches deep. it never recieves any natural shade, unless its
>cloudy!.....
>remember the pond is under a month old...so may be a bloom??
>this help?? thanx!!
>john
>"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
...
>> "Destroyallx" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
>> couple of potted
>> > lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
>> waterfall...
>> > recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
>> color...is this an algea
>> > bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
>> i just havta be
>> > patient with? let me know. thanx
>>
>> A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
>> if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
>> month or so, ask again, but provide more
>> information to diagnose the problem, like water
>> test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
>> load (if any) - anything that might affect the
>> balance in the pond, including where you live!
>>
>> There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
>> few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
>> site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
>> others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
>> exploring them.
>> http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
>> http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
>> http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
>>
>> HTH - Gail
>> near San Antonio TX
>>
>>
>
~ jan JJsPond.us
May 1st 04, 09:49 PM
If it is circular, whats the diameter? You need to purchase test kits:
ammonia, nitrite, pH, & KH and a thermometer. What is your filtration set
up? How many gallons per hour are you turning over? ~ jan
See my ponds and filter design:
http://users.owt.com/jjspond/
~Keep 'em Wet!~
Tri-Cities WA Zone 7a
To e-mail see website
>On Sat, 01 May 2004 20:06:14 GMT, "Destroyallx" > wrote:
>ok...
>the pond is located in my front yard in the hudson valley area of new york
>(upstate ny). there are 3 small koi, 3 large gold fish and 2 shubkins. The
>pond liner is 20x20 so..idk how many gallons..but its circular, and about a
>maximum of 18inches deep. it never recieves any natural shade, unless its
>cloudy!.....
>remember the pond is under a month old...so may be a bloom??
>this help?? thanx!!
>john
>"Gail Futoran" > wrote in message
...
>> "Destroyallx" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > i just finished my new pond about a month ago and it has a
>> couple of potted
>> > lillypads and rocks lining the inside with a pretty nice
>> waterfall...
>> > recently the pond has turned an ugly brownish green
>> color...is this an algea
>> > bloom?.. filter problems?.. need more plants? or something
>> i just havta be
>> > patient with? let me know. thanx
>>
>> A lot of times ponds will settle out on their own,
>> if you're patient. If it doesn't clear in another
>> month or so, ask again, but provide more
>> information to diagnose the problem, like water
>> test results, typical amount of sun/shade, fish
>> load (if any) - anything that might affect the
>> balance in the pond, including where you live!
>>
>> There are a bunch of online pond resources. A
>> few I have bookmarked follow. The first, Robyn's
>> site, I recommend. I even bought her book. The
>> others look fine but I haven't spent as much time
>> exploring them.
>> http://www.fishpondinfo.com/pond.htm
>>
>> http://members.aol.com/marylady/pondpals/resource.htm
>> http://aquanic.org/publicat/state/il-in/faq/faq.htm
>> http://www.ponddoc.com/Topics/KoiGoldfish.htm
>>
>> HTH - Gail
>> near San Antonio TX
>>
>>
>
Ka30P
May 1st 04, 10:56 PM
Algae fighting tips
~ Nutrients for all forms of algae are sun, new water, fish waste, fertilized
run off, rotting plants, blown in dirt.
~ New ponds and spring ponds need time for plants to get established, algae is
quicker at getting going.
~ add plants, of any kind, in the pond. Especially underwater plants.
~ Shade is good - provided by lily pads, floating plants or artificial shade
for part of the day.
~ LOW fish stocking (20 gallons per goldfish, 100 per koi after starting with
1,000 gallons) and *not* overfeeding the fish. Too many fish and too much
feeding is probably responsible for most pea soup water, followed closely by
too much decaying plant matter, sludge and overall gunk in the water
~ adding a combination mechanical and biological filter to screen gunk and
convert fishy ammonia waste for fish health.
~ build a veggie filter, to run water through plants, as easy as floating water
hyacinth in your filter.
~ clean up dead plant matter and screen for falling leaves
in the fall.
~ water movement, occasional water changes of 10%
~ add a sludge consumer, concentrated bacteria.
many rec.ponders use http://www.united-tech.com/m-aq4u-toc.html
~ Check your pH, too high, over 8.8, or too low, under 6.4, and most higher
plant forms can't take up the nutrients.
~ building ponds with bottom drains and skimmers.
~ do not use algaecides, they only make lots of suddenly dead algae
and that will feed the next algae bloom.
~ do not worry about algae that grows on things (substrate algae) this is good
for a pond
~ gently remove string algae
~ UV lights work on suspended algae (green water) - does cost some $$.
~ patience and time ;-)
kathy :-)
<A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>
Ka30P
May 1st 04, 10:56 PM
Algae fighting tips
~ Nutrients for all forms of algae are sun, new water, fish waste, fertilized
run off, rotting plants, blown in dirt.
~ New ponds and spring ponds need time for plants to get established, algae is
quicker at getting going.
~ add plants, of any kind, in the pond. Especially underwater plants.
~ Shade is good - provided by lily pads, floating plants or artificial shade
for part of the day.
~ LOW fish stocking (20 gallons per goldfish, 100 per koi after starting with
1,000 gallons) and *not* overfeeding the fish. Too many fish and too much
feeding is probably responsible for most pea soup water, followed closely by
too much decaying plant matter, sludge and overall gunk in the water
~ adding a combination mechanical and biological filter to screen gunk and
convert fishy ammonia waste for fish health.
~ build a veggie filter, to run water through plants, as easy as floating water
hyacinth in your filter.
~ clean up dead plant matter and screen for falling leaves
in the fall.
~ water movement, occasional water changes of 10%
~ add a sludge consumer, concentrated bacteria.
many rec.ponders use http://www.united-tech.com/m-aq4u-toc.html
~ Check your pH, too high, over 8.8, or too low, under 6.4, and most higher
plant forms can't take up the nutrients.
~ building ponds with bottom drains and skimmers.
~ do not use algaecides, they only make lots of suddenly dead algae
and that will feed the next algae bloom.
~ do not worry about algae that grows on things (substrate algae) this is good
for a pond
~ gently remove string algae
~ UV lights work on suspended algae (green water) - does cost some $$.
~ patience and time ;-)
kathy :-)
<A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>
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