The Great Lotus Race; Update May 03, 2004

[Benign Vanilla]

The 4 foot deep lotus has nice stem up to the surface, and a nice big leaf
ready to unfurl. No further growth is noticeable yet. The 2 foot deep lotus
is tied with the 4 foot in growth and performance. A second tubor at 2 feet
deep is also getting ready to break the surface.

So far...tied IMHO.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[pmwebdesigns]

Are they hard to grow?
You got to have muddy water for these?
Priss
"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
> The 4 foot deep lotus has nice stem up to the surface, and a nice big leaf
> ready to unfurl. No further growth is noticeable yet. The 2 foot deep
lotus
> is tied with the 4 foot in growth and performance. A second tubor at 2
feet
> deep is also getting ready to break the surface.
>
> So far...tied IMHO.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[pmwebdesigns]

Are they hard to grow?
You got to have muddy water for these?
Priss
"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
> The 4 foot deep lotus has nice stem up to the surface, and a nice big leaf
> ready to unfurl. No further growth is noticeable yet. The 2 foot deep
lotus
> is tied with the 4 foot in growth and performance. A second tubor at 2
feet
> deep is also getting ready to break the surface.
>
> So far...tied IMHO.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
...
> Are they hard to grow?
> You got to have muddy water for these?
<snip>

From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the best
to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method you
shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
"improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH sitting
with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other. Right
now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.

Seems to me a few things about lotus...

1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big pot,
or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the tubor
can grow and follow the contour of the pot.

2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them. The
tubors themselves are bullet proof.

3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not, but
they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.

4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
small/light piece of slate to hold them down.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
...
> Are they hard to grow?
> You got to have muddy water for these?
<snip>

From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the best
to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method you
shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
"improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH sitting
with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other. Right
now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.

Seems to me a few things about lotus...

1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big pot,
or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the tubor
can grow and follow the contour of the pot.

2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them. The
tubors themselves are bullet proof.

3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not, but
they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.

4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
small/light piece of slate to hold them down.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[joe]

Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were looking
for hyacinth.


Joe

On 5/3/04 1:58 PM, "Benign Vanilla" > wrote:

> I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> small/light piece of slate to hold them down.



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[joe]

Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were looking
for hyacinth.


Joe

On 5/3/04 1:58 PM, "Benign Vanilla" > wrote:

> I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> small/light piece of slate to hold them down.



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[grubber]

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...

> 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
but
> they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.

"Lotus roots, seeds, and leaves of several Asian plants related to the water
lily, are used as food. The large seeds may be eaten raw, boiled, grilled
and also candied. The reddish-brown roots (more accurately, rhizomes) are
used as a vegetable, with a crisp texture and mild flavor. The leaves are
used as a vegetable and as a wrap for sweet and savory mixtures"

http://www.foodreference.com/html/flotusrootflower.html

[grubber]

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...

> 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
but
> they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.

"Lotus roots, seeds, and leaves of several Asian plants related to the water
lily, are used as food. The large seeds may be eaten raw, boiled, grilled
and also candied. The reddish-brown roots (more accurately, rhizomes) are
used as a vegetable, with a crisp texture and mild flavor. The leaves are
used as a vegetable and as a wrap for sweet and savory mixtures"

http://www.foodreference.com/html/flotusrootflower.html

[Nedra]

Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the easiest
plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
Just be Very Careful of
the growing point/s.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Are they hard to grow?
> > You got to have muddy water for these?
> <snip>
>
> From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the
best
> to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method you
> shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
sitting
> with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
Right
> now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
>
> Seems to me a few things about lotus...
>
> 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big pot,
> or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the tubor
> can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
>
> 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them. The
> tubors themselves are bullet proof.
>
> 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
but
> they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
>
> 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Nedra]

Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the easiest
plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
Just be Very Careful of
the growing point/s.

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Are they hard to grow?
> > You got to have muddy water for these?
> <snip>
>
> From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the
best
> to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method you
> shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
sitting
> with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
Right
> now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
>
> Seems to me a few things about lotus...
>
> 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big pot,
> or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the tubor
> can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
>
> 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them. The
> tubors themselves are bullet proof.
>
> 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
but
> they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
>
> 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
>
> --
> BV.
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
>
>

[Heather]

Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about 6
hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???

Thanks,
Heather

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
> Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
> except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
> And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the easiest
> plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
> Just be Very Careful of
> the growing point/s.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Are they hard to grow?
> > > You got to have muddy water for these?
> > <snip>
> >
> > From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> > probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the
> best
> > to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method
you
> > shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> > "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
> sitting
> > with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
> Right
> > now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
> >
> > Seems to me a few things about lotus...
> >
> > 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big
pot,
> > or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the
tubor
> > can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
> >
> > 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them.
The
> > tubors themselves are bullet proof.
> >
> > 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
> but
> > they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
> >
> > 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> > small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
> >
> > --
> > BV.
> > www.iheartmypond.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Heather]

Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about 6
hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???

Thanks,
Heather

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
> Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
> except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
> And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the easiest
> plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
> Just be Very Careful of
> the growing point/s.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Are they hard to grow?
> > > You got to have muddy water for these?
> > <snip>
> >
> > From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> > probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is the
> best
> > to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method
you
> > shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> > "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
> sitting
> > with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
> Right
> > now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
> >
> > Seems to me a few things about lotus...
> >
> > 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big
pot,
> > or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the
tubor
> > can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
> >
> > 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them.
The
> > tubors themselves are bullet proof.
> >
> > 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or not,
> but
> > they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
> >
> > 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with a
> > small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
> >
> > --
> > BV.
> > www.iheartmypond.com
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Heather" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about
6
> hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
>
> Thanks,
> Heather
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
> > Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
> > except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
> > And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the
easiest
> > plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
> > Just be Very Careful of
> > the growing point/s.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Are they hard to grow?
> > > > You got to have muddy water for these?
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> > > probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is
the
> > best
> > > to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method
> you
> > > shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> > > "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
> > sitting
> > > with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
> > Right
> > > now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
> > >
> > > Seems to me a few things about lotus...
> > >
> > > 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big
> pot,
> > > or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the
> tubor
> > > can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
> > >
> > > 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them.
> The
> > > tubors themselves are bullet proof.
> > >
> > > 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or
not,
> > but
> > > they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
> > >
> > > 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with
a
> > > small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
> > >
> > > --
> > > BV.
> > > www.iheartmypond.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Nedra]

That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Heather" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about
6
> hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
>
> Thanks,
> Heather
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Thanks for the advertising, BV! lol
> > Anyway, to answer priss's question... lotus do not need anything
> > except plain ole water ... pond water is best ;-)
> > And No.. they are not hard to grow... in fact they are one of the
easiest
> > plants I know of to grow. BV has pretty much outlined what is needed.
> > Just be Very Careful of
> > the growing point/s.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "pmwebdesigns" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Are they hard to grow?
> > > > You got to have muddy water for these?
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > From my experience to date, Lotus seem to be pretty fool proof. Nedra
> > > probably has the most experience with Lotus on the group, so she is
the
> > best
> > > to ask. However, last year I took care of my lotus using every method
> you
> > > shouldn't and they did very well. This year, I have one planted
> > > "improperly", and two planted "properly". So far Nedra and are BOTH
> > sitting
> > > with our fingers crossed for a clear cut result one way or the other.
> > Right
> > > now, the plants are neck in neck so to speak.
> > >
> > > Seems to me a few things about lotus...
> > >
> > > 1. Give the tubors room to grow. They grow mostly laterally, so a big
> pot,
> > > or a round pot is best. Always plant near the edge of the pot so the
> tubor
> > > can grow and follow the contour of the pot.
> > >
> > > 2. The growing tips are sensitive to damage, so be careful with them.
> The
> > > tubors themselves are bullet proof.
> > >
> > > 3. Dogs love to chew on lotus tubors. I don't know if they toxic or
not,
> > but
> > > they are apparently tastey. I have not personally confirmed.
> > >
> > > 4. Plant the tubors shallow. I have mine in 3-4 of muck/mud/dirt with
a
> > > small/light piece of slate to hold them down.
> > >
> > > --
> > > BV.
> > > www.iheartmypond.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
looking
> for hyacinth.

My lotus are planted in 3-4 inches of mulm/mud. One plant is 4 feet down,
and started to unfirl a floater today. (Ya hear that Nedra?!?!?, The four
footer is opening first!!!!) And the other plant is 2 feet down in the same
3-4 inches of muck. Today my water is much clearer, so I can now see what
looks like 3 more tubors at the 2 foot depth sprouting.

BV.

P.S. Joe, I'll check my email now...

[Benign Vanilla]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
looking
> for hyacinth.

My lotus are planted in 3-4 inches of mulm/mud. One plant is 4 feet down,
and started to unfirl a floater today. (Ya hear that Nedra?!?!?, The four
footer is opening first!!!!) And the other plant is 2 feet down in the same
3-4 inches of muck. Today my water is much clearer, so I can now see what
looks like 3 more tubors at the 2 foot depth sprouting.

BV.

P.S. Joe, I'll check my email now...

[Benign Vanilla]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
looking
> for hyacinth.
<snip>

No email came in...Did you REMOVEME from the email address? Either way, I am
interested.


--
BenignVanilla
www.iheartmypond.com

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with a stay at home job, AND help the
environment?

Check www.AMothersDream.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"joe" > wrote in message
...
> Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
looking
> for hyacinth.
<snip>

No email came in...Did you REMOVEME from the email address? Either way, I am
interested.


--
BenignVanilla
www.iheartmypond.com

Do you want to supplement your income
with a stay at home job, AND help the
environment?

Check www.AMothersDream.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"Heather" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about
6
> hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
<snip>

Mine live in exactly that environment. Actually they may even get a bit
less. I think I have Mrs. PDS's.

--
BenignVanilla
www.iheartmypond.com

Do you want to supplement your income
with a stay at home job, AND help the
environment?

Check www.AMothersDream.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"Heather" > wrote in message
. ..
> Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is about
6
> hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
<snip>

Mine live in exactly that environment. Actually they may even get a bit
less. I think I have Mrs. PDS's.

--
BenignVanilla
www.iheartmypond.com

Do you want to supplement your income
with a stay at home job, AND help the
environment?

Check www.AMothersDream.com

[joe]

Sent to

Just send me your address.

joe


On 5/4/04 12:44 PM, "Benign Vanilla" > wrote:

> No email came in...Did you REMOVEME from the email address? Either way, I am
> interested.



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[joe]

Sent to

Just send me your address.

joe


On 5/4/04 12:44 PM, "Benign Vanilla" > wrote:

> No email came in...Did you REMOVEME from the email address? Either way, I am
> interested.



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[Nedra]

Oh Drat!! You know I'm just kidding, right BV? Actually
I was betting on the ones that are 2 feet down because of their
location. Humm ... what does this say about
"location, location, location" ? Now we'll see which one/s flower first?
I could really be out on a limb on this one! If the one that is
planted 4 feet down flowers first - that means that the ole saw
about planting lotus waaay up towards the surface is all wet ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "joe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
> looking
> > for hyacinth.
>
> My lotus are planted in 3-4 inches of mulm/mud. One plant is 4 feet down,
> and started to unfirl a floater today. (Ya hear that Nedra?!?!?, The four
> footer is opening first!!!!) And the other plant is 2 feet down in the
same
> 3-4 inches of muck. Today my water is much clearer, so I can now see what
> looks like 3 more tubors at the 2 foot depth sprouting.
>
> BV.
>
> P.S. Joe, I'll check my email now...
>
>

[Nedra]

Oh Drat!! You know I'm just kidding, right BV? Actually
I was betting on the ones that are 2 feet down because of their
location. Humm ... what does this say about
"location, location, location" ? Now we'll see which one/s flower first?
I could really be out on a limb on this one! If the one that is
planted 4 feet down flowers first - that means that the ole saw
about planting lotus waaay up towards the surface is all wet ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "joe" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Inches or feet? BTW BV, I sent you an email asking if you still were
> looking
> > for hyacinth.
>
> My lotus are planted in 3-4 inches of mulm/mud. One plant is 4 feet down,
> and started to unfirl a floater today. (Ya hear that Nedra?!?!?, The four
> footer is opening first!!!!) And the other plant is 2 feet down in the
same
> 3-4 inches of muck. Today my water is much clearer, so I can now see what
> looks like 3 more tubors at the 2 foot depth sprouting.
>
> BV.
>
> P.S. Joe, I'll check my email now...
>
>

[Nedra]

I really don't believe that my lotus get any more sun than that.
The Mrs. Perry D. Slocum is very easy to identify .... especially
when it comes to fragrance. It is the sweetest one I have.
Also, the MPDS changes color every day for three days...
from Pink to Pink & Cream to Cream. Stunning!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is
about
> 6
> > hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
> <snip>
>
> Mine live in exactly that environment. Actually they may even get a bit
> less. I think I have Mrs. PDS's.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
> Do you want to supplement your income
> with a stay at home job, AND help the
> environment?
>
> Check www.AMothersDream.com
>
>

[Nedra]

I really don't believe that my lotus get any more sun than that.
The Mrs. Perry D. Slocum is very easy to identify .... especially
when it comes to fragrance. It is the sweetest one I have.
Also, the MPDS changes color every day for three days...
from Pink to Pink & Cream to Cream. Stunning!

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Heather" > wrote in message
> . ..
> > Nedra - Is there a lotus that will perform in semi-shade? That is
about
> 6
> > hours of direct sunlight a day from 9am to about 3pm???
> <snip>
>
> Mine live in exactly that environment. Actually they may even get a bit
> less. I think I have Mrs. PDS's.
>
> --
> BenignVanilla
> www.iheartmypond.com
>
> Do you want to supplement your income
> with a stay at home job, AND help the
> environment?
>
> Check www.AMothersDream.com
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Oh Drat!! You know I'm just kidding, right BV? Actually
> I was betting on the ones that are 2 feet down because of their
> location. Humm ... what does this say about
> "location, location, location" ? Now we'll see which one/s flower first?
> I could really be out on a limb on this one! If the one that is
> planted 4 feet down flowers first - that means that the ole saw
> about planting lotus waaay up towards the surface is all wet ;-)
<snip>

Now that I think about it, I wish I had planted a third tubor just a few
inches down. That would have been a great comparison. I think we're
learning, like everything in our ponds, nothing is 100%.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Benign Vanilla]

"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Oh Drat!! You know I'm just kidding, right BV? Actually
> I was betting on the ones that are 2 feet down because of their
> location. Humm ... what does this say about
> "location, location, location" ? Now we'll see which one/s flower first?
> I could really be out on a limb on this one! If the one that is
> planted 4 feet down flowers first - that means that the ole saw
> about planting lotus waaay up towards the surface is all wet ;-)
<snip>

Now that I think about it, I wish I had planted a third tubor just a few
inches down. That would have been a great comparison. I think we're
learning, like everything in our ponds, nothing is 100%.

--
BV.
www.iheartmypond.com

[Lieutenant Kizhe Katson]

"Nedra" > wrote in message et>...
> That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
> and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
> to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
> choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.

Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.

-- Kizhé

[Lieutenant Kizhe Katson]

"Nedra" > wrote in message et>...
> That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
> and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
> to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
> choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.

Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.

-- Kizhé

[Nedra]

First of all - lotuses are
generally speaking, hardy to Zone 4. I have no idea what
they would do in a Zone 2 enviornment.

To answer your question, I'm in Zone 6 & have a lotus pond
and I don't do
one thing - other than leave them alone - for the winter. They
now have 2 to 3 leaves on the surface and I'll will begin dividing.
You can see the pond in the 2nd website under my name.

As for the shade in Zone 2, again I have to plead ignorance.
It's possible that with grow lights you could keep them going
all winter... i.e. not freeze the tuber. But that is something
you will just have to try and experiment on.

Hope I've helped (some) ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lieutenant Kizhe Katson" > wrote in message
m...
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
et>...
> > That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
> > and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
> > to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
> > choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
> just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
> and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
> growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
> several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.
>
> Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
> planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.
>
> -- Kizhé

[Nedra]

First of all - lotuses are
generally speaking, hardy to Zone 4. I have no idea what
they would do in a Zone 2 enviornment.

To answer your question, I'm in Zone 6 & have a lotus pond
and I don't do
one thing - other than leave them alone - for the winter. They
now have 2 to 3 leaves on the surface and I'll will begin dividing.
You can see the pond in the 2nd website under my name.

As for the shade in Zone 2, again I have to plead ignorance.
It's possible that with grow lights you could keep them going
all winter... i.e. not freeze the tuber. But that is something
you will just have to try and experiment on.

Hope I've helped (some) ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Lieutenant Kizhe Katson" > wrote in message
m...
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
et>...
> > That sounds like a good deal of sunlight, Heather. I think most any
> > and all lotus would be fine! Actually you could go
> > to any catalog and look up the lotuses .... there is a bunch to
> > choose from and each one is wonderful in its own way :)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
> just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
> and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
> growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
> several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.
>
> Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
> planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.
>
> -- Kizhé

[Heather]

Hi Kizhe

Thinking about the warmth factor and not really pond related but here goes.

We live in Zone 5-6. Gladiolas are a bulb that are supposed to be lifted in
the fall and replanted in the spring in our Zone. A number of years ago I
planted some within a foot of the basement foundation of the house. In the
fall I forgot and didn't dig them up. Next spring up they came and bloomed
well ahead of the normal bloom time. Every year we lived in that house they
grew and bloomed and I never dug them up. So....

If your sunroom has a basement and might leak some heat into the ground in
winter and your lotus are real close and you cover the pond with plywood and
something to insulate and maybe if you cross your fingers.... Well you get
the picture. Worth a try anyway. Good Luck!

Heather

">
> Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
> just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
> and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
> growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
> several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.
>
> Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
> planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.
>
> -- Kizhé

[Heather]

Hi Kizhe

Thinking about the warmth factor and not really pond related but here goes.

We live in Zone 5-6. Gladiolas are a bulb that are supposed to be lifted in
the fall and replanted in the spring in our Zone. A number of years ago I
planted some within a foot of the basement foundation of the house. In the
fall I forgot and didn't dig them up. Next spring up they came and bloomed
well ahead of the normal bloom time. Every year we lived in that house they
grew and bloomed and I never dug them up. So....

If your sunroom has a basement and might leak some heat into the ground in
winter and your lotus are real close and you cover the pond with plywood and
something to insulate and maybe if you cross your fingers.... Well you get
the picture. Worth a try anyway. Good Luck!

Heather

">
> Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
> just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
> and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
> growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
> several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.
>
> Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
> planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.
>
> -- Kizhé

[Lieutenant Kizhe Katson]

"Heather" > wrote in message >...
> Hi Kizhe
>
> Thinking about the warmth factor and not really pond related but here goes.
>
> We live in Zone 5-6.

I'm Zone 5 (Ottawa), though my backyard is probably a Zone 6
micro-climate. For your email addy, you can't be too far away.

(Note to Americans: I'm pretty sure Heather is talking Canadian
hardiness zones, which divide our climate a little finer. The USDA
just lumps the whole country into Zone 2 (Arctic Tundra) and Zone 1
(Polar Ice Cap) ;-).

>....Gladiolas are a bulb that are supposed to be lifted in
> the fall and replanted in the spring in our Zone. A number of years ago I

Yeah, I used to do the Glads thing, until one Fall I forgot to clean
them and left them sitting in a basket in the garage in mid-winter
:-(. These days, the only thing I can be bothered to take any
seasonal trouble for is the pond & associated rock garden. Everything
else is either hardy perennial or dead ;-).

> planted some within a foot of the basement foundation of the house. In the
> fall I forgot and didn't dig them up. Next spring up they came and bloomed
> well ahead of the normal bloom time. Every year we lived in that house they
> grew and bloomed and I never dug them up. So....
>
> If your sunroom has a basement and might leak some heat into the ground in
> winter and your lotus are real close and you cover the pond with plywood and
> something to insulate and maybe if you cross your fingers.... Well you get
> the picture. Worth a try anyway. Good Luck!
>
> Heather

The shady (soon-to-be-build) pond is right next to the house, but the
current pond is several feet away. However, we don't allow it to
freeze solid (since we leave the fish in), so I guess it would depend
on whether the tubers could survive sitting on the bottom at 2degC for
four months, followed by a slow two-month warm-up with occasional
night frosts.

> > Nedra, how do you overwinter lotus? From you webpages I gather you
> > just leave yours on the bottom. However, I think my USDA zone is 2,
> > and anything tropical has to be brought inside and put under
> > growlights or into dormant storage. I've kept a taro going for
> > several years now, and I'm thinking I'd like to try lotus.
> >
> > Also, are there any that are good for complete shade? Pond #2 (under
> > planning) is going to be on the shady side of the sunroom.

-- Kizhé

[Heather]

Hi Kizhe

> I'm Zone 5 (Ottawa), though my backyard is probably a Zone 6
> micro-climate. For your email addy, you can't be too far away.

Yup - Between London and Kitchener, just outside of Woodstock. We live in a
wooded area now.

> (Note to Americans: I'm pretty sure Heather is talking Canadian
> hardiness zones, which divide our climate a little finer. The USDA
> just lumps the whole country into Zone 2 (Arctic Tundra) and Zone 1
> (Polar Ice Cap) ;-).

There are updated Zone maps - the USDA one I looked at last night has us
zoned the same as our Canadian map. The exception is our map us subdivided
into A and B.

Here are some links I found that are good.
http://www.gardenersnet.com/atoz/hardy.htm Scroll down and click on Plant
Hardiness Zone Map
http://www.icangarden.com/zone.cfm

>
> The shady (soon-to-be-build) pond is right next to the house, but the
> current pond is several feet away. However, we don't allow it to
> freeze solid (since we leave the fish in), so I guess it would depend
> on whether the tubers could survive sitting on the bottom at 2degC for
> four months, followed by a slow two-month warm-up with occasional
> night frosts.

I am trying lotus this year as well. Main pond is 4' deep. I plan to have
the lotus in a pot in a shallow area then drop to the bottom for winter.
Good luck to both of us!

Heather

[Benign Vanilla]

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
> The 4 foot deep lotus has nice stem up to the surface, and a nice big leaf
> ready to unfurl. No further growth is noticeable yet. The 2 foot deep
lotus
> is tied with the 4 foot in growth and performance. A second tubor at 2
feet
> deep is also getting ready to break the surface.
<snip>

New status update. The four-foot-deep tubor has a leaf unfurled.
Nedra...it's winning.

BV.
iheartmypond.com

[Nedra]

Oh Joy!! Whichever one breaks surface first is the sure
winner in my book. Or were we going to wait for the
blossoms to show up?
Wonder what the catalyst is/was? Surely
it isn't because this tuber is in a tiny (8 to 10") wash basin?
I'm so excited over this Great Lotus Race - I plumb forgot
what were betting on ;-)

Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> > The 4 foot deep lotus has nice stem up to the surface, and a nice big
leaf
> > ready to unfurl. No further growth is noticeable yet. The 2 foot deep
> lotus
> > is tied with the 4 foot in growth and performance. A second tubor at 2
> feet
> > deep is also getting ready to break the surface.
> <snip>
>
> New status update. The four-foot-deep tubor has a leaf unfurled.
> Nedra...it's winning.
>
> BV.
> iheartmypond.com
>
>