View Full Version : Pictures of Veggie Filter and where I would like to put Lotus
Mickey
May 4th 04, 02:15 AM
The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The water
is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel in
the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require a
lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle out
and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will be
cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants I
get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on EBay?
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
Mickey
May 4th 04, 02:21 AM
Oh and if anyone has a creative suggestion with pictures for returning the
water in the "Veggie Filter" picture I would like to see them. I am thinking
of a cistern pump or a couple of flat rocks and a fall type of return. I
need to replace that white pipe.
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
water
> is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel
in
> the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
> how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require
a
> lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle
out
> and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
> emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will
be
> cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants
I
> get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
EBay?
>
>
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
>
>
Mickey
May 4th 04, 02:21 AM
Oh and if anyone has a creative suggestion with pictures for returning the
water in the "Veggie Filter" picture I would like to see them. I am thinking
of a cistern pump or a couple of flat rocks and a fall type of return. I
need to replace that white pipe.
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
water
> is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel
in
> the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
> how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require
a
> lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle
out
> and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
> emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will
be
> cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants
I
> get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
EBay?
>
>
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
>
>
Bonnie
May 4th 04, 12:37 PM
Mickey wrote:
> The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The water
> is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel in
> the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
> how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require a
> lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle out
> and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
> emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will be
> cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants I
> get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on EBay?
>
>
> http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
>
Hi Mickey,
When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
Bonnie
May 4th 04, 12:37 PM
Mickey wrote:
> The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The water
> is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea gravel in
> the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and see
> how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not require a
> lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle out
> and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it is
> emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it will be
> cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any plants I
> get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on EBay?
>
>
> http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
>
Hi Mickey,
When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
--
Bonnie
NJ
http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
Nedra
May 4th 04, 04:52 PM
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Bonnie" > wrote in message
...
> Mickey wrote:
> > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
water
> > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
gravel in
> > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and
see
> > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
require a
> > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle
out
> > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it
is
> > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
will be
> > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
plants I
> > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
EBay?
> >
> >
> >
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> >
> Hi Mickey,
>
> When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
>
> My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
>
> --
> Bonnie
> NJ
> http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
>
>
Nedra
May 4th 04, 04:52 PM
Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Bonnie" > wrote in message
...
> Mickey wrote:
> > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter. The
> > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
water
> > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
gravel in
> > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and
see
> > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area that
> > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
require a
> > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff settle
out
> > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground it
is
> > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
will be
> > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
plants I
> > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
EBay?
> >
> >
> >
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> >
> Hi Mickey,
>
> When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
>
> My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
>
> --
> Bonnie
> NJ
> http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
>
>
Mickey
May 5th 04, 01:05 AM
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be hardy.
..
"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
> do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Mickey wrote:
> > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.
The
> > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
> water
> > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> gravel in
> > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and
> see
> > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area
that
> > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> require a
> > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
settle
> out
> > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground
it
> is
> > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
> will be
> > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> plants I
> > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
> EBay?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > >
> > Hi Mickey,
> >
> > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> >
> > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> >
> > --
> > Bonnie
> > NJ
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> >
> >
>
>
Mickey
May 5th 04, 01:05 AM
What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be hardy.
..
"Nedra" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
> do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Mickey wrote:
> > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.
The
> > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges. The
> water
> > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> gravel in
> > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed and
> see
> > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area
that
> > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> require a
> > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
settle
> out
> > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground
it
> is
> > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
> will be
> > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> plants I
> > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed on
> EBay?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > >
> > Hi Mickey,
> >
> > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> >
> > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> >
> > --
> > Bonnie
> > NJ
> > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> >
> >
>
>
Nedra
May 5th 04, 02:23 AM
Hi Mickey,
A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
> seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
> baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
> Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
> Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
> economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
hardy.
> .
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
> > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.
> The
> > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.
The
> > water
> > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> > gravel in
> > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed
and
> > see
> > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area
> that
> > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> > require a
> > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> settle
> > out
> > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground
> it
> > is
> > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
> > will be
> > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> > plants I
> > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed
on
> > EBay?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > >
> > > Hi Mickey,
> > >
> > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > >
> > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bonnie
> > > NJ
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Nedra
May 5th 04, 02:23 AM
Hi Mickey,
A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
> seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in mesh
> baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
> Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my Jiffy
> Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
> economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
hardy.
> .
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter, please
> > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie Filter.
> The
> > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.
The
> > water
> > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> > gravel in
> > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed
and
> > see
> > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an area
> that
> > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> > require a
> > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> settle
> > out
> > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above ground
> it
> > is
> > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So it
> > will be
> > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> > plants I
> > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed
on
> > EBay?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > >
> > > Hi Mickey,
> > >
> > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > >
> > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bonnie
> > > NJ
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Mickey
May 5th 04, 12:17 PM
I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain it
and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I have
not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket and
some screen.
"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Hi Mickey,
>
> A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
> filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
> want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
>
> Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
> would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
> fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
> veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
>
> For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
> It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
> speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
> that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
> have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Mickey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
> > seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in
mesh
> > baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
> > Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my
Jiffy
> > Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
> > economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
> hardy.
> > .
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,
please
> > > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > >
> > > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie
Filter.
> > The
> > > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.
> The
> > > water
> > > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> > > gravel in
> > > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed
> and
> > > see
> > > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an
area
> > that
> > > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> > > require a
> > > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> > settle
> > > out
> > > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above
ground
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So
it
> > > will be
> > > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> > > plants I
> > > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed
> on
> > > EBay?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Mickey,
> > > >
> > > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > > >
> > > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bonnie
> > > > NJ
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Mickey
May 5th 04, 12:17 PM
I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain it
and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I have
not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket and
some screen.
"Nedra" > wrote in message
nk.net...
> Hi Mickey,
>
> A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
> filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
> want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
>
> Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
> would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
> fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
> veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
>
> For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
> It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
> speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
> that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
> have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
>
> Nedra
> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>
> "Mickey" > wrote in message
> ...
> > What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting my
> > seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in
mesh
> > baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus over
> > Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my
Jiffy
> > Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus is
> > economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
> hardy.
> > .
> > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,
please
> > > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for division.
> > >
> > > Nedra
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > >
> > > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie
Filter.
> > The
> > > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the edges.
> The
> > > water
> > > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting pea
> > > gravel in
> > > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus seed
> and
> > > see
> > > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an
area
> > that
> > > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and not
> > > require a
> > > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> > settle
> > > out
> > > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above
ground
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter. So
it
> > > will be
> > > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors any
> > > plants I
> > > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus seed
> on
> > > EBay?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > > >
> > > > Hi Mickey,
> > > >
> > > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > > >
> > > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Bonnie
> > > > NJ
> > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Nedra
May 5th 04, 03:53 PM
I use regular lily tabs for fertilizing. Lots of folk on here use a
variety of vegetable spikes for the same purpose.
Yes, it is good to know your pond situation :)
Of course, with an above ground pond you will need to move the lotus to the
garage. I have planted lotus in a variety of planters...
from square to round. Saw no difference in the growth. Our growing
conditions are so different that I hate to advise you to use less
than what's recommended... and that would be 'round' containers.
Your suggestion sounds doable.... Go For it!
Good Luck!
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
> is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain
it
> and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
> Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
> fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
> Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I
have
> not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket
and
> some screen.
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Hi Mickey,
> >
> > A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
> > filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
> > want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
> >
> > Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
> > would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
> > fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
> > veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
> >
> > For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
> > It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
> > speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
> > that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
> > have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Mickey" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting
my
> > > seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in
> mesh
> > > baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus
over
> > > Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my
> Jiffy
> > > Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus
is
> > > economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
> > hardy.
> > > .
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > > > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > > > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,
> please
> > > > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > > > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > > > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > > > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for
division.
> > > >
> > > > Nedra
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > >
> > > > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie
> Filter.
> > > The
> > > > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the
edges.
> > The
> > > > water
> > > > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting
pea
> > > > gravel in
> > > > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus
seed
> > and
> > > > see
> > > > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an
> area
> > > that
> > > > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and
not
> > > > require a
> > > > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> > > settle
> > > > out
> > > > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above
> ground
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter.
So
> it
> > > > will be
> > > > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors
any
> > > > plants I
> > > > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus
seed
> > on
> > > > EBay?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mickey,
> > > > >
> > > > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > > > >
> > > > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bonnie
> > > > > NJ
> > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Nedra
May 5th 04, 03:53 PM
I use regular lily tabs for fertilizing. Lots of folk on here use a
variety of vegetable spikes for the same purpose.
Yes, it is good to know your pond situation :)
Of course, with an above ground pond you will need to move the lotus to the
garage. I have planted lotus in a variety of planters...
from square to round. Saw no difference in the growth. Our growing
conditions are so different that I hate to advise you to use less
than what's recommended... and that would be 'round' containers.
Your suggestion sounds doable.... Go For it!
Good Luck!
Nedra
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
"Mickey" > wrote in message
...
> I live in Central Minnesota 45 miles west of Minneapolis/St.Paul. The pond
> is 100% above ground and would freeze solid during the winter so I drain
it
> and move the fish indoors to the basement. That is the reason I moved my
> Lilies to the garage for overwintering last year. Any suggestions for
> fertilizer? My lilies are planted in the 12 x 12 mesh baskets and I used
> Shultz Aquatic plant soil ( Aka baked clay). It does not make a mess. I
have
> not seen round planters here I might have to use a round laundry basket
and
> some screen.
>
> "Nedra" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> > Hi Mickey,
> >
> > A word of clarification here. I did not plant lotus in my veggie
> > filter. I have a lotus pond where all the lotuses reside. If you
> > want to see it just click on the second website under my name..
> >
> > Okay, if I were to plant a lotus in the veggie filter I think I
> > would use one of the large curve-ish mesh planters. I would also
> > fertilize the seedlings while planting them. Then I would let the
> > veggie filter water take over the fertilization efforts.
> >
> > For wintering over, just put the lotus in the bottom of your pond.
> > It should do fine there. Btw, where are you located- geographically
> > speaking? Lotus are hardy plants. I really don't know of any
> > that would require moving to the garage.... especially since you
> > have the bottom of a pond to put it in ;-)
> >
> > Nedra
> > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> >
> > "Mickey" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > What size basket did you use for your Lotus? I am going to be putting
my
> > > seeds in a glass in jar in the window this week. I have my lilies in
> mesh
> > > baskets that I overwintered in the garage in a cooler. Will a Lotus
over
> > > Winter the same way? I was also going to try and putting a few in my
> Jiffy
> > > Filter and see how they do. One of the reasons I am getting the Lotus
is
> > > economy I can buy the seeds fairly cheap and they are supposed to be
> > hardy.
> > > .
> > > "Nedra" > wrote in message
> > > ink.net...
> > > > Oh Boy - do I ever remember this episode. It took me literally
> > > > weeks to lift all the gravel out of the veggie filter. Ugh! Bonnie
> > > > is absolutely right. If you plant anything in the veggie filter,
> please
> > > > do yourself a favor. Incorporate the mesh planters in your
> > > > plans. If you do intend to plant lotus - put the gravel in a
> > > > mesh planting basket, then the seeds. That way you can
> > > > rather easily lift the baskets out in the fall or spring for
division.
> > > >
> > > > Nedra
> > > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
> > > > http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
> > > >
> > > > "Bonnie" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Mickey wrote:
> > > > > > The link should take you to pictures of my soon to be Veggie
> Filter.
> > > The
> > > > > > pond is a work in progress, so it is still rough around the
edges.
> > The
> > > > water
> > > > > > is still a little cool 40 -50 deg F. I am thinking of putting
pea
> > > > gravel in
> > > > > > the bottom of the veggie filter this year and planting lotus
seed
> > and
> > > > see
> > > > > > how they do. From what I have read they should grow well in an
> area
> > > that
> > > > > > size. I would like to put a plant in that will grow easily and
not
> > > > require a
> > > > > > lot of maintenance. I figure that will also help the small stuff
> > > settle
> > > > out
> > > > > > and hopefully cut down on algae. Being that the pond is above
> ground
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > emptied in the fall and the fish moved indoors for the winter.
So
> it
> > > > will be
> > > > > > cleaned yearly. Remembering I would have to overwinter indoors
any
> > > > plants I
> > > > > > get are their any other suggestions? Anybody bought the Lotus
seed
> > on
> > > > EBay?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://f2.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mickey_55381/album?.tok=ph8LZDBB6qL1s8JN&.dir=/dab1&.src=ph
> > > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mickey,
> > > > >
> > > > > When I put in my first veggie filter I added 2" of pea
> > > > > gravel. When I cleaned it the end of the first year, I
> > > > > hated the pea gravel but thought it was necessary and put
> > > > > it back into the filter. The next year when I was cleaning
> > > > > the filter I thought this is nuts and got rid of the gravel.
> > > > >
> > > > > My advice is not add any type of gravel in a veggie filter.
> > > > > It's horrible to clean (ask Nedra) and completely
> > > > > unnecessary. If you have a strong back and love to lift all
> > > > > the gravel and rinse it thoroughly once a year - go ahead.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Bonnie
> > > > > NJ
> > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~maebe43/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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