ponds u say

[The Destroyer]

ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

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>ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

Wow...wandering around Usenet with nothing to do.
Lonely?

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>ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

Wow...wandering around Usenet with nothing to do.
Lonely?

[Mouse]

You are obviously a troll, and easily confused
Mouse
"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
m...
> ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

[Mouse]

You are obviously a troll, and easily confused
Mouse
"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
m...
> ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

[Ann in Houston]

confused about what? That we care so much about ponds? Probably not more
than car enthusiasts care about their cars, or other types of gardeners care
about that, or woodworking folks care about their hobby. Take a look at
some of the pictures posted here, and you may get it.


"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
m...
> ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

[Ann in Houston]

confused about what? That we care so much about ponds? Probably not more
than car enthusiasts care about their cars, or other types of gardeners care
about that, or woodworking folks care about their hobby. Take a look at
some of the pictures posted here, and you may get it.


"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
m...
> ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed

[Snooze]

> >"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed
>

> "Ann in Houston" > wrote in message
> m...
> confused about what? That we care so much about ponds? Probably not more
> than car enthusiasts care about their cars, or other types of gardeners
care
> about that, or woodworking folks care about their hobby. Take a look at
> some of the pictures posted here, and you may get it.

I thought this newsgroup was about managing cooling ponds for nuclear
reactors.

[Snooze]

> >"The Destroyer" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > ponds....honestly ponds.....you people deeply confuse me, deeply indeed
>

> "Ann in Houston" > wrote in message
> m...
> confused about what? That we care so much about ponds? Probably not more
> than car enthusiasts care about their cars, or other types of gardeners
care
> about that, or woodworking folks care about their hobby. Take a look at
> some of the pictures posted here, and you may get it.

I thought this newsgroup was about managing cooling ponds for nuclear
reactors.

[Sean Dinh]

No no, we are best at cultivating algae and duckweed.

Snooze wrote:

> I thought this newsgroup was about managing cooling ponds for nuclear
> reactors.

[Sean Dinh]

No no, we are best at cultivating algae and duckweed.

Snooze wrote:

> I thought this newsgroup was about managing cooling ponds for nuclear
> reactors.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Nuclear Plants only have so many years of life, cooling ponds will need
conversion someday. I just bet there's an algae out there that eats
radiation. ;o) ~ jan

>On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:14:07 -0700, Sean Dinh > wrote:

>No no, we are best at cultivating algae and duckweed.
>
>Snooze wrote:
>
>> I thought this newsgroup was about managing cooling ponds for nuclear
>> reactors.

(Do you know where your water quality is?)

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only if the radioactive material is a nutrient normally taken up by the algae,
unfortunately. Then there is a the problem of disposing of the radioactive algae.
what many people dont understand is that anything can become radioactive (well except
helium IIRC) that is in contact with penetrating radiation. Ingrid

jan JJsPond.us wrote:
> Nuclear Plants only have so many years of life, cooling ponds will need
> conversion someday. I just bet there's an algae out there that eats
> radiation. ;o) ~ jan


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[Tom L. La Bron]

Here again Ingrid,

This is where you are making a general assumption of
water used in a nuclear facility. The don't turn on
the local faucet to fill the pipes, plus it is a sealed
pressurized system. The water used in Nuclear reactors
has nothing in it but water. The water is super clean
in nuclear facilities just to prevent the possibility
of something like that happening.

I know this from personal experience because I used to
work in the Nuclear Field.

Tom L.L.
-----------------------------------------------------------
wrote:

> only if the radioactive material is a nutrient normally taken up by the algae,
> unfortunately. Then there is a the problem of disposing of the radioactive algae.
> what many people dont understand is that anything can become radioactive (well except
> helium IIRC) that is in contact with penetrating radiation. Ingrid
>
> jan JJsPond.us wrote:
>
>>Nuclear Plants only have so many years of life, cooling ponds will need
>>conversion someday. I just bet there's an algae out there that eats
>>radiation. ;o) ~ jan
>
>
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[WARDL895]

huh? wow im well confused nuclear ponds? wtf?????? and i highlight th
"F"!!! i like my pond because i can look out of my window in a mornin
and see my fav guys swiming about so happy,

pics of my pond building can be found at http://www.wardl895.karoo.ne
cheers ric
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[Susan H. Simko]

WARDL895 wrote:
> huh? wow im well confused nuclear ponds? wtf?????? and i highlight the
> "F"!!! i like my pond because i can look out of my window in a morning
> and see my fav guys swiming about so happy,

I think some people may be confusing waste pools with cooling ponds. As
Tom said, the cooling ponds never touch the redioactive isotopes inside
the reactor. The cooling system in the reactor is a closed loop system
that uses a heat exchanger to transfer the heat out of the water in the
reactor cooling system. The reactor coolant and the water from the
cooling pond never physically mingle.

OTOH, the waste pools are where discarded fuel rods are held. It's only
supposed to be temporary but until the politic*ians decide what should
be done, the fule rods still sit in many "temporary" pools. Those pools
are supposedly built so that nothing escapes from them.

Susan (too many years working on nuclear fuel design from the computer
modeling angle and whose father is a nuclear engineer)

shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[Benign Vanilla]

> wrote in message
...
> only if the radioactive material is a nutrient normally taken up by the
algae,
> unfortunately. Then there is a the problem of disposing of the
radioactive algae.
> what many people dont understand is that anything can become radioactive
(well except
> helium IIRC) that is in contact with penetrating radiation.
<snip>

I am not nuclear physicist, but I am fairly certain that you cannot become
radioactive simply by being radiated. You must be in contact with particles.
IE, if I was within a few feet of some plutonium it would kill me, but if I
were not directly exposed to "its" air, I could walk away and not be
radioactive.

BV.

[Benign Vanilla]

"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...
> WARDL895 wrote:
> > huh? wow im well confused nuclear ponds? wtf?????? and i highlight the
> > "F"!!! i like my pond because i can look out of my window in a morning
> > and see my fav guys swiming about so happy,
>
> I think some people may be confusing waste pools with cooling ponds. As
> Tom said, the cooling ponds never touch the redioactive isotopes inside
> the reactor. The cooling system in the reactor is a closed loop system
> that uses a heat exchanger to transfer the heat out of the water in the
> reactor cooling system. The reactor coolant and the water from the
> cooling pond never physically mingle.
<snip>

And the cooling towers are a sight to see. I worked at a plant for a few
months, doing on nuclear stuff, but I parked near the towers every day. It
was weird to see how the updraft of the steam could actually pull the flow
of water slightly inward towards the center of the tower. Yup, the water
don't fall straight down in there. Very odd to see.

BV.

[Ka30P]

DH works at a nuclear plant and in cold weather they have nuclear winter around
the cooling tower. It 'snows' all around the towers.


kathy :-)
<A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>

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depends on the radiation
alpha is stopped by paper
beta is stopped by aluminum foil
gamma is stopped by lead
http://puregold.aquaria.net/su1-2004/part2/lecbiological_effects_radiation.html

OTOH, neutron flux (like in reactors) destabilizes inorganic compounds when a
neutron ends up in the nucleus of other atoms.
http://puregold.aquaria.net/su1-2004/part2/lecnuclear_power.html

Organic material doesnt readily become radioactive due to the type of material it is
made of, nearly 98% is water, altho all organic material is constantly incorporating
C14 (created at high levels in the atmosphere)
http://puregold.aquaria.net/su1-2004/part2/lecradioactive_dating.html
And then there was the grad student who contaminated himself with Iodine 125 and so
much ended up in his thyroid he was told to stay away from his wife until the I125
decayed sufficiently.
radiation does not make people "glow in the dark".
OTOH, radioactive materials are routinely made in the lab by bombardment (typically
with a cesium source) .. used mostly for diagnostic purposes. And leading to a lot
of low level radioactive wastes. Ingrid

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote:
>I am not nuclear physicist, but I am fairly certain that you cannot become
>radioactive simply by being radiated. You must be in contact with particles.
>IE, if I was within a few feet of some plutonium it would kill me, but if I
>were not directly exposed to "its" air, I could walk away and not be
>radioactive.
>
>BV.
>



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[Benign Vanilla]

> wrote in message
...
> depends on the radiation
> alpha is stopped by paper
> beta is stopped by aluminum foil
> gamma is stopped by lead
>
http://puregold.aquaria.net/su1-2004/part2/lecbiological_effects_radiation.html
<snip>

Sure. But my point is that there is a difference between being made
radioactive, and be irradiated. You can blast a steak with gamma rays,
killing all the cow poop, but if you eat the steak you won't become
radioactive. If on the other hand you poured the green goo from a reactor on
your burger, you'll be able to read in the dark.

BV.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

You're absolutely right Tom, I was just kidding around. ~ jan

>On Sat, 22 May 2004 11:46:06 -0500, "Tom L. La Bron" > wrote:

>This is where you are making a general assumption of
>water used in a nuclear facility. The don't turn on
>the local faucet to fill the pipes, plus it is a sealed
>pressurized system. The water used in Nuclear reactors
>has nothing in it but water. The water is super clean
>in nuclear facilities just to prevent the possibility
>of something like that happening.
>
>I know this from personal experience because I used to
>work in the Nuclear Field.
>
>Tom L.L.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
wrote:
>
>> only if the radioactive material is a nutrient normally taken up by the algae,
>> unfortunately. Then there is a the problem of disposing of the radioactive algae.
>> what many people dont understand is that anything can become radioactive (well except
>> helium IIRC) that is in contact with penetrating radiation. Ingrid
>>
>> jan JJsPond.us wrote:
>>
>>>Nuclear Plants only have so many years of life, cooling ponds will need
>>>conversion someday. I just bet there's an algae out there that eats
>>>radiation. ;o) ~ jan
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.

(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

>And the cooling towers are a sight to see. I worked at a plant for a few
>months, doing on nuclear stuff, but I parked near the towers every day. It
>was weird to see how the updraft of the steam

Water vapor, BV, water vapor. ;o) ~ jan
(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Benign Vanilla]

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
s.com...
> >And the cooling towers are a sight to see. I worked at a plant for a few
> >months, doing on nuclear stuff, but I parked near the towers every day.
It
> >was weird to see how the updraft of the steam
>
> Water vapor, BV, water vapor. ;o) ~ jan

Sure looked like water to me. The road of it was incredibly loud. I'll take
your word for it.

BV.

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

I was just nit pickin'. Every time I mention seeing steam off ENW's tower,
hubby says "Water Vapor, Water Vapor" Okay, whatever.... ;o) ~ jan

>> >was weird to see how the updraft of the steam
>>
>> Water vapor, BV, water vapor. ;o) ~ jan
>
>Sure looked like water to me. The road of it was incredibly loud. I'll take
>your word for it.
>
>BV.
>

(Do you know where your water quality is?)