Bog/Veggie filters DIY quesiotns.

[The~Doofie~Man©]

I'm damn sure I'm going to need more filtration for my pond. I have set
aside an area for this. It just so happens I had made the area while
designing the pond, so lucky me. The area is about 4-5"s deep. I can
elongate it with sand & pea rock if I have to too add the filter.
Do I have to have all the plants in containers, one big container all
together or plant them right in the pea/soil bed?
Can I just run a water line after the submersible filer/pump I already have
to the bog and control the water flow with a valve? The plumbing aspect of
ponding isn't really a problem for me seeing as that's what I do for a
living. its the balancing for the pond that's got me scathing my head. I
went to a wicked awesome nursery today & bought some plants for the bog
(grasses) and some more oxygenating plants for the bottom as well. So is
this a bog or a veggie filter? They the same thing more or less. Can someone
explain it to me like a 3 year old.
I could build a filer box as well but which method works best? If I do go
this route I'll use a flower pot as I want keep the pond as natural as
possible. I don't want to see plastic boxes everywhere. I don't want to use
chemicals if I DON'T HAVE TO either. I've been reading that DIY is a good
way to go. I take it the filter box should filter as slowly as possible
through the system without compensating water flow back to the pond.
Again thanks in advance for the input people.

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[The~Doofie~Man©]

What a hideous way to spell "questions" in the subject line.
Shame on me!!!!

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Putting the fun back in FUNeral!!
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"The~Doofie~Man©" > wrote in message
.. .
> I'm damn sure I'm going to need more filtration for my pond. I have set
> aside an area for this. It just so happens I had made the area while
> designing the pond, so lucky me. The area is about 4-5"s deep. I can
> elongate it with sand & pea rock if I have to too add the filter.
> Do I have to have all the plants in containers, one big container all
> together or plant them right in the pea/soil bed?
> Can I just run a water line after the submersible filer/pump I already
have
> to the bog and control the water flow with a valve? The plumbing aspect of
> ponding isn't really a problem for me seeing as that's what I do for a
> living. its the balancing for the pond that's got me scathing my head. I
> went to a wicked awesome nursery today & bought some plants for the bog
> (grasses) and some more oxygenating plants for the bottom as well. So is
> this a bog or a veggie filter? They the same thing more or less. Can
someone
> explain it to me like a 3 year old.
> I could build a filer box as well but which method works best? If I do go
> this route I'll use a flower pot as I want keep the pond as natural as
> possible. I don't want to see plastic boxes everywhere. I don't want to
use
> chemicals if I DON'T HAVE TO either. I've been reading that DIY is a good
> way to go. I take it the filter box should filter as slowly as possible
> through the system without compensating water flow back to the pond.
> Again thanks in advance for the input people.
>
> --
> The~Doofie~Man ©
> "LET ME SEE YOUR CIGARETTE LIGHTERS!!!!!"
> Putting the fun back in FUNeral!!
> http://www.geocities.com/doof70/index.html
>
>

[Bonnie]

I fixed the subject line for you ;-)

A veggie filter uses plant for filtration. How you go about
doing this changes from person to person.
Mine has plants without pots and no stones or gravel. It is
approximately 16' long and 4' wide and 2' deep. At the spot
where the water enters I have window screen to act as a
mechanical filter, then the plants and at the end I have
bioballs. For plants I have water celery, water hyacinth,
and water cress.


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Bonnie
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[Jim and Phyllis Hurley]

Veggie filter is any place water runs through plants on its way to the pond.
Solisd and mechanically filtered or settled out. Nutirents are grabbed by
plants. More growth, more nutrients out.

Think in terms of filtration AND cleaning! Once it is full of muck, how do
we get the muck out? Natural ponds become bogs which become fertile fields.
If you want a field, don't clean your bog. Gravel and junk in the bog will
hold muck. If you line your bog with a liner, you can grow plants and then
flush out the junk. Gravel is very hard to clean effectively. Our veggie
filters are kiddie pools with 2" drains in the bottom (PVC piping).
Cleaning is opening a valve and letting the water run out. We then flush
with pond water. Sooooo easy. When we had a lava rock filter, it was a
nightmare of flushing and hauling rock out.

However your plants are put in, be sure to have a lot of root surface to
filter and to grab nutrients.


Have fun.

Jim
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"The~Doofie~Man©" > wrote in message
.. .
> I'm damn sure I'm going to need more filtration for my pond. I have set
> aside an area for this. It just so happens I had made the area while
> designing the pond, so lucky me. The area is about 4-5"s deep. I can
> elongate it with sand & pea rock if I have to too add the filter.
> Do I have to have all the plants in containers, one big container all
> together or plant them right in the pea/soil bed?
> Can I just run a water line after the submersible filer/pump I already
have
> to the bog and control the water flow with a valve? The plumbing aspect of
> ponding isn't really a problem for me seeing as that's what I do for a
> living. its the balancing for the pond that's got me scathing my head. I
> went to a wicked awesome nursery today & bought some plants for the bog
> (grasses) and some more oxygenating plants for the bottom as well. So is
> this a bog or a veggie filter? They the same thing more or less. Can
someone
> explain it to me like a 3 year old.
> I could build a filer box as well but which method works best? If I do go
> this route I'll use a flower pot as I want keep the pond as natural as
> possible. I don't want to see plastic boxes everywhere. I don't want to
use
> chemicals if I DON'T HAVE TO either. I've been reading that DIY is a good
> way to go. I take it the filter box should filter as slowly as possible
> through the system without compensating water flow back to the pond.
> Again thanks in advance for the input people.
>
> --
> The~Doofie~Man ©
> "LET ME SEE YOUR CIGARETTE LIGHTERS!!!!!"
> Putting the fun back in FUNeral!!
> http://www.geocities.com/doof70/index.html
>
>

[Snooze]

Although many people have specific areas for a veg filter, you don't need
one. The goal of a veggie filter is to have plants convert the waste in the
water into plant matter, before the algae can. The entire pond can be an veg
filter, if you can put the plants in areas where they won't turn into a koi
salad bar.

Almost any aquatic plant can be a veg filter plant, but the faster growing
plants are more efficient, which is why water hyacinth are so popular.

Sameer