Pond Location

[NW]

From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's about
15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward the
house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location. In
other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the yard.
It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

[RichToyBox]

I would recommend that you raise the edges of the pond several inches to
force the water to go around the pond. Runoff will carry fertilizer from
the yard into the pond and make a mess. It will also take any weed killer,
bug killer, etc. and kill fish and plants. Plants placed around the pond
will conceal the fact that it is slightly raised.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"NW" > wrote in message
...
> From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
> house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
about
> 15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
the
> house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
> yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
In
> other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
yard.
> It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
> concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
> puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

[Nedra]

I put my pond in a low spot in the yard... mainly because
I envisioned a deck overhanging the pond ... etc etc. It turned
out just the way i envisioned it too. However, the first spring
the liner got bubbled up and had a real mess. I dug a trench
around the pond and heaped up about 7 inches of big pine bark
away from the pond. I really had the bark in there - very heavy.

I would definitely go ahead with your plans only do put a berm
around your pond .... slanting away from the pond. A trench
wouldn't hurt either ;-)

Nedra in Missouri
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118

"NW" > wrote in message
...
> From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
> house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
about
> 15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
the
> house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
> yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
In
> other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
yard.
> It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
> concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
> puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

[dkat]

After I put in my pond in what I thought was the most natural looking area I
read that you don't want your pond in a low spot (of course the spot that
looked natural to me was the low spot in the yard). I had one year when I
foolishly tried using sand to raise the sides and had the side of the pond
collapse on me after a heavy rain. I cleaned the sand out, put the liner
back in place and have not had a problem (knock on wood) since. I have a
large boundary around the pond that has perennials and rocks. Further out
is wood chips and more plants so this area really doesn't get any run off
from the lawn when it is fertilized (which isn't often in any case). I
really don't use chemicals much at all and I think this is the major concern
other than a flood of water getting under your liner. My soil is pretty
stable (heavy clay) and I used carpet under the liner. I'm happy with my
pond and I like the look of it being lower than the rest of the yard but I
believe that I had a lucky combination of events that allow for it to work.


"NW" > wrote in message
...
> From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
> house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
about
> 15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
the
> house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
> yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
In
> other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
yard.
> It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
> concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
> puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

[Mike Patterson]

On Mon, 24 May 2004 01:56:31 GMT, "Nedra" >
wrote:

>I put my pond in a low spot in the yard... mainly because
>I envisioned a deck overhanging the pond ... etc etc. It turned
>out just the way i envisioned it too. However, the first spring
>the liner got bubbled up and had a real mess. I dug a trench
>around the pond and heaped up about 7 inches of big pine bark
>away from the pond. I really had the bark in there - very heavy.
>
>I would definitely go ahead with your plans only do put a berm
>around your pond .... slanting away from the pond. A trench
>wouldn't hurt either ;-)
>
>Nedra in Missouri
>http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pines/4836
>http://community.webshots.com/user/nedra118
>

>
In regards to the bubbled liner, I had that problem, ended up putting
several large rocks (edges rounded off) scattered in the pond to hold
the liner down. Also dug a shallow trench about 30 feet uphill of the
pond to divert runoff. No problems since, and we've had a few
"gully-washers".

The rocks also help the pond bottom look more natural, and some are
stacked in such a way as to give the fish hiding places.


Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[NW]

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll stick with my first choice location
(low spot) and keep the pond slightly raised above the existing grade and
build a berm up-slope of the pond to divert water. The yard already has a
swale cut across the slope which should help also

Since this will be a small scale pond I'm seriously considering one of those
pre-formed "tub" type liners. Can I assume the hydrostatic pressure against
the sides or up from the bottom would not be an issue as it would with a
EPDM liner?


BH in PA



"NW" > wrote in message
...
> From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
> house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
about
> 15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
the
> house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
> yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
In
> other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
yard.
> It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
> concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
> puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks.
>
>

[RichToyBox]

If the hole holds water, then anything that you use to line the hole will
float, at least until it is full of water. Once full, the weight of the
water in the pond will be pushing against the water under the pond, and it
will not float.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"NW" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll stick with my first choice location
> (low spot) and keep the pond slightly raised above the existing grade and
> build a berm up-slope of the pond to divert water. The yard already has a
> swale cut across the slope which should help also
>
> Since this will be a small scale pond I'm seriously considering one of
those
> pre-formed "tub" type liners. Can I assume the hydrostatic pressure
against
> the sides or up from the bottom would not be an issue as it would with a
> EPDM liner?
>
>
> BH in PA
>
>
>
> "NW" > wrote in message
> ...
> > From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of
our
> > house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
> about
> > 15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
> the
> > house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location.
The
> > yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
> In
> > other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
> yard.
> > It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
> > concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
> > puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
>
>

[HTH]

Please be sure the pond water level is somewhat higher then that of any
possible standing or running water outside the pond. That is the key to
keeping the pond liner/shell in place during a rain.

It is ok for the pond liner/shell to overflow from direct rain (not
runoff). As long the pond is raised above the standing/flowing water it
will stay put.

Howard

NW wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll stick with my first choice location
> (low spot) and keep the pond slightly raised above the existing grade and
> build a berm up-slope of the pond to divert water. The yard already has a
> swale cut across the slope which should help also
>
> Since this will be a small scale pond I'm seriously considering one of those
> pre-formed "tub" type liners. Can I assume the hydrostatic pressure against
> the sides or up from the bottom would not be an issue as it would with a
> EPDM liner?
>
>
> BH in PA
>
>
>
> "NW" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>From an aesthetics point of view I have an ideal spot near the back of our
>>house that can be seen from our deck, patio and kitchen window. It's
>
> about
>
>>15-20 feet out from the house. However, my yard slopes downward toward
>
> the
>
>>house with the slope leveling out around the proposed pond location. The
>>yard slopes downward very slightly from the house toward this location.
>
> In
>
>>other words, it's a subtle low spot, not a sizable indentation in the
>
> yard.
>
>>It looks like a natural spot for a pond to be given this grading but I'm
>>concerned about possible negative impact of rain run off. I don't see
>>puddles in this spot so the draining seems good. Any thoughts?
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>
>
>
>


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