Protein skimmer advice needed

[Karl]

I have a tunzi 3130 protein skimmer sat inside my 125 gallon tank and
would like to get an alternative unit to sit inside the cabinet
underneath.

I have been thinking about getting the turbofloater 1000 multi and a
small tank to use as a sump.
My question is this. Quite simply, how do you set them up?

I know the turbofloater has its own pump but does this pump pull water
from the tank AND push it back up? Does the sump need feeding via
gravity and the pump only pushes water around the skimmer and back up?
How high will the pump push the water before it can push no more?
(whats the max height the pump will force water up to?)

Any pointers to diagrams would be helpful, aswell as very simple setup
instructions. Im afraid its a case of monkey see, monkey do!

Thanx

[BiG_Orange]

These are really good! http://www.euro-reef.com

[Karl]

"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message >...
> These are really good! http://www.euro-reef.com

Thanks, but this didnt really answer my question.
How are protein skimmers fed if they sit on their own in a small sump
under the tank, and how is the water returned?
If I buy a turbofloater 1000 (or any other skimmer for that matter)
and a small tank for a sump, will I need to buy a pump to get water
backup to the tank or do they have built in pumps that both, pull
water from, and, push water back to, the main display tank?

[Ct Midnite]

You have to have an over flow box to get it into the sump and then
another pump to get it back into the tank. It's not as simple as it
would seem.

Ct Midnite

On 29 Jan 2004 03:12:55 -0800, (Karl) wrote:

>"BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message >...
>> These are really good! http://www.euro-reef.com
>
>Thanks, but this didnt really answer my question.
>How are protein skimmers fed if they sit on their own in a small sump
>under the tank, and how is the water returned?
>If I buy a turbofloater 1000 (or any other skimmer for that matter)
>and a small tank for a sump, will I need to buy a pump to get water
>backup to the tank or do they have built in pumps that both, pull
>water from, and, push water back to, the main display tank?


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[CapFusion]

"Karl" > wrote in message
om...
> "BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message
>...
> > These are really good! http://www.euro-reef.com
>
> Thanks, but this didnt really answer my question.
> How are protein skimmers fed if they sit on their own in a small sump
> under the tank, and how is the water returned?


This is two question in one.
1. How PS is Fed.
2. How water return from Sump.

1A. When the PS is in the SUMP, the sump tank should have volume of water.
Since the PS is in the sump, it should have a water-pump that feed it. There
should be two output. One is the cup that should collect foam but if the
foam is moist, the water will be include it and on the second output, it
should be water or product water without any [or low / less] nutrient. This
is the basic mechanic of PS.

2A. Depending on your sump,
Two method on how water is going to the sump.
1. By gravity.
2. By PowerHead or Waterpump.

If by gravity, the water will flow down to your sump by mean of "OverFlow
Box" or the tank have it own built-in water drain in the taink. From the
Sump, it should have a powerhead / waterpump will pull or push the water
back to the tank by a tube [PVC pipe or hose].

If by Powerhead or water pump, normally a sump will be above the tank and
not under. Water-pump / Head will push the water from the main tank to the
sump and will increase it volume to where it can overflow. Think of it as a
big Whisper or Marineland type of filter that it suck water into it chamber
and spill over to the overflow and into the tank.

Does this basic clear thing up abit?


> If I buy a turbofloater 1000 (or any other skimmer for that matter)
> and a small tank for a sump, will I need to buy a pump to get water
> backup to the tank or do they have built in pumps that both, pull
> water from, and, push water back to, the main display tank?


This also a two question into one.
1. Does the PS need a pump?
2. How water get back to the tank.

1A. When you purchase a PS, it will need a pump of some kind. Depending on
that model.

2A. Depend where your PS is locate and how it setup. For typical PS in the
SUMP, water will enter the pump and releaase to the sump again but the PS
foam / gunk will be collect into the collection cup. If the water is
directly from the main tank that it feed from, it will return the product
water back to the main tank [typical setup].

Main Tank > Sump > PS > Sump > Main Tank
Main Tank > PS > Main Tank
Or
Main Tank > PS > SUMP > Main Tank

Does this confuse you abit?

CapFusion,...

[Karl]

Yep, makes alot more sense now. That and I went and spoke to my man at
the fish shop I visit far too often!! :)
Im going to start to make an overflow now and move everything out to a
sump. hopefully it'll make the tank alot nicer looking!

Thanx for the advice guys


"CapFusion" > wrote in message >...
>
> "Karl" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "BiG_Orange" <@> wrote in message
> >...
> > > These are really good! http://www.euro-reef.com
> >
> > Thanks, but this didnt really answer my question.
> > How are protein skimmers fed if they sit on their own in a small sump
> > under the tank, and how is the water returned?
>
>
> This is two question in one.
> 1. How PS is Fed.
> 2. How water return from Sump.
>
> 1A. When the PS is in the SUMP, the sump tank should have volume of water.
> Since the PS is in the sump, it should have a water-pump that feed it. There
> should be two output. One is the cup that should collect foam but if the
> foam is moist, the water will be include it and on the second output, it
> should be water or product water without any [or low / less] nutrient. This
> is the basic mechanic of PS.
>
> 2A. Depending on your sump,
> Two method on how water is going to the sump.
> 1. By gravity.
> 2. By PowerHead or Waterpump.
>
> If by gravity, the water will flow down to your sump by mean of "OverFlow
> Box" or the tank have it own built-in water drain in the taink. From the
> Sump, it should have a powerhead / waterpump will pull or push the water
> back to the tank by a tube [PVC pipe or hose].
>
> If by Powerhead or water pump, normally a sump will be above the tank and
> not under. Water-pump / Head will push the water from the main tank to the
> sump and will increase it volume to where it can overflow. Think of it as a
> big Whisper or Marineland type of filter that it suck water into it chamber
> and spill over to the overflow and into the tank.
>
> Does this basic clear thing up abit?
>
>
> > If I buy a turbofloater 1000 (or any other skimmer for that matter)
> > and a small tank for a sump, will I need to buy a pump to get water
> > backup to the tank or do they have built in pumps that both, pull
> > water from, and, push water back to, the main display tank?
>
>
> This also a two question into one.
> 1. Does the PS need a pump?
> 2. How water get back to the tank.
>
> 1A. When you purchase a PS, it will need a pump of some kind. Depending on
> that model.
>
> 2A. Depend where your PS is locate and how it setup. For typical PS in the
> SUMP, water will enter the pump and releaase to the sump again but the PS
> foam / gunk will be collect into the collection cup. If the water is
> directly from the main tank that it feed from, it will return the product
> water back to the main tank [typical setup].
>
> Main Tank > Sump > PS > Sump > Main Tank
> Main Tank > PS > Main Tank
> Or
> Main Tank > PS > SUMP > Main Tank
>
> Does this confuse you abit?
>
> CapFusion,...