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Mary kate
June 15th 04, 06:10 PM

Benign Vanilla
June 15th 04, 06:58 PM
"Mary kate" > wrote in message
...
> Yah I'm new at this ( by the way I LOVE this new hobby !! what an
> addiction !! LOL) I haven't gotten to that section in my book yet about
> Barley...what's it do ? So far my water is clear and my goldfish are
> smiling and I'm building my pond environment at a snails pace as I read
> everything I find. I have good aeration ( fountain and water
> fall..filter.. and three plants ( 1-Iris 1- lilly 1-monkey tail the
> pond is only 200 gal but it's exciting to be learning SO much. I lost
> my husband almost two years ago and this new hobby is a God sent for me
> :-) so do I need Barley right away ?

Mk,

First off...many of us do not use news readers that are capable of reading
HTML, so please post in plain text only. Usenet is just not setup to handle
HTML well.

As for your pond...sounds like you are doing well. If you have to ask the
question do I need Barley...you don't need it.

BV.

Ka30P
June 15th 04, 07:03 PM
Hi Mary Kate!

There are lots of ways to keep algae, the type that turns your water pea soup
green, at bay.

The most important being stocking very few fish and not overfeeding them.
The second is keeping dead foliage out of the pond and leaves out of it in the
fall.

I'll post the algae primer here for you. I have not added barley to it at this
time. Many of us have had ponds for years and years without many of the new
products out there on the market.
Keeping a cool head when faced with an algae bloom is the best defence ;-)

ALGAE FIGHTING TIPS
~ Nutrients for all forms of algae are sun, new water, fish waste, fertilized
run off, rotting plants, blown in dirt.
~ New ponds and spring ponds need time for plants to get established, algae is
quicker at getting going.
~ add plants, of any kind, in the pond. Especially underwater plants.
~ Shade is good - provided by lily pads, floating plants or artificial shade
for part of the day.
~ LOW fish stocking (20 gallons per goldfish, 100 per koi after starting with
1,000 gallons) and *not* overfeeding the fish. Too many fish and too much
feeding is probably responsible for most pea soup water, followed closely by
too much decaying plant matter, sludge and overall gunk in the water
~ clean up dead plant matter and screen for falling leaves in the fall. Clean
out pond once a year.
~ building ponds with bottom drains and skimmers.
~ do not use algaecides, they only make lots of suddenly dead algae and that
will feed the next algae bloom.
~ do not use products to dye to the water...
~ do not worry about algae that grows on things (substrate algae) this is good
for a pond
~ gently remove string algae
~ build a veggie filter* see below
~ water movement and occasional water changes of 10%
~ add a sludge consumer, concentrated bacteria.
some rec.ponders use http://www.united-tech.com/m-aq4u-toc.html
~ Check your pH, too high, over 8.8, or too low, under 6.4, and most higher
plant forms can't take up the nutrients.
~ UV lights work on suspended algae (green water) - does cost some $$ - many of
us get along without one.
~ adding a combination mechanical and biological filter to screen gunk and
convert fishy ammonia waste for fish health.
~ patience, more patience, even more patience and time ;-)



*Veggie filter ~ running the pond's water through plants
- as easy as floating water hyacinth in top of a stock tank and planting
watercress in your waterfall (my method ;-)
or
read Ingrid's post on plant filters:
"The essence of a plant filter is a water proof container with the water from
the pond
being pumped in one end flowing thru the roots of various plants and flowing
back
into the pond at the other end.
It needs to be long enough that solids settle to the bottom OR have filter
material
that will slow or hold the solids (and get rinsed out periodically).
It needs plants of different kinds to maximize removal of all wastes.
it needs sufficient amount of plants to remove in one day all the wastes
produced by
the fish load in one day. It needs plants with extensive roots and/or plants
that get big so they used up more
nutrients. It needs to be only 8-12" deep so it doesnt go anaerobic."
or go here:
http://www.iheartmypond.com/Design/DIY/Filters/VegetableFilters/default.asp

kathy :-)
<A HREF="http://www.onceuponapond.com/">Once upon a pond</A>

joe
June 15th 04, 07:50 PM
Please don't post HTML, all I saw was a black screen.

Thanks
Joe
On 6/15/04 10:10 AM, "Mary kate" wrote:

> Yah I'm new at this ( by the way I LOVE this new hobby !! what an
> addiction !! LOL) I haven't gotten to that section in my book yet about
> Barley...what's it do ? So far my water is clear and my goldfish are
> smiling and I'm building my pond environment at a snails pace as I read
> everything I find. I have good aeration ( fountain and water
> fall..filter.. and three plants ( 1-Iris 1- lilly 1-monkey tail the
> pond is only 200 gal but it's exciting to be learning SO much. I lost
> my husband almost two years ago and this new hobby is a God sent for me
> :-) so do I need Barley right away ?
>
>
>
>
>
> A BIT ABOUT ME :-) <http://community.webtv.net/mkbfw/ABITABOUTME> SAVE A
> HORSE....RIDE A COWBOY : - )




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GrannyGrump
June 15th 04, 09:47 PM
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:50:06 -0700, joe > wrote:

>Please don't post HTML, all I saw was a black screen.

Agent must change html to text, coz Isaw the post just fine :)

joe
June 15th 04, 10:26 PM
On 6/15/04 1:47 PM, "GrannyGrump" wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:50:06 -0700, joe > wrote:
>
>> Please don't post HTML, all I saw was a black screen.
>
> Agent must change html to text, coz Isaw the post just fine :)

No, it was kind of odd. I saw the link at the bottom of the screen, but
other than that, just a black background. Didn't see the text of the message
until I hit reply and turned off html.

Joe



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Mary kate
June 16th 04, 07:01 AM
thank you for your input anyway :-)

Mary kate
June 16th 04, 07:12 AM
I pushed my ( remove signature ) button so hopefully that's the same as
removing my HTML, if not, I sure don't want to have to errase everything
in my signature box just to ask a question here and then type it all
back in again...ugh Why is it just THIS discussion group you have to
remove the html......No other groups have any problems with
html.......just curious.

*muffin*
June 16th 04, 11:28 AM
its not just this group.
I read many newsgroups, and they all have fits against HTML.
guess you were lucky in the other ones. (maybe it doesn't show up there??)

I use outlook express. & it gives you a choice to use when sending emails &
newsgroups to use HTML or text. does it automatically, you don't have to
strip you sig yourself.
"Mary kate" > wrote in message
...
> I pushed my ( remove signature ) button so hopefully that's the same as
> removing my HTML, if not, I sure don't want to have to errase everything
> in my signature box just to ask a question here and then type it all
> back in again...ugh Why is it just THIS discussion group you have to
> remove the html......No other groups have any problems with
> html.......just curious.
>

Mouse
June 16th 04, 12:49 PM
Its frowned on in most Ngs as some people use text only readers and cannot
read html threads.You can turn it off very easily in OE from Tools Options
Send.
Mouse

"*muffin*" > wrote in message
...
> its not just this group.
> I read many newsgroups, and they all have fits against HTML.
> guess you were lucky in the other ones. (maybe it doesn't show up there??)
>
> I use outlook express. & it gives you a choice to use when sending emails
&
> newsgroups to use HTML or text. does it automatically, you don't have to
> strip you sig yourself.
> "Mary kate" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I pushed my ( remove signature ) button so hopefully that's the same as
> > removing my HTML, if not, I sure don't want to have to errase everything
> > in my signature box just to ask a question here and then type it all
> > back in again...ugh Why is it just THIS discussion group you have to
> > remove the html......No other groups have any problems with
> > html.......just curious.
> >
>
>

Gareee©
June 16th 04, 02:08 PM
"Mary kate" > wrote in message
...
> I pushed my ( remove signature ) button so hopefully that's the same as
> removing my HTML, if not, I sure don't want to have to errase everything
> in my signature box just to ask a question here and then type it all
> back in again...ugh Why is it just THIS discussion group you have to
> remove the html......No other groups have any problems with
> html.......just curious.

Some groups really don't care, and just skip over the html posts. Some
groups do.

Originally, usenet was always text only.. then binaries groups were added,
and then MP3, disc images, games, ect.

Eventually, we'll probably see html widely accepted, (Some of the html
stationary in the stationary groups is just amazing), but for now sticking
with text only will appease everyone. Some people will just go at it again
and again on it, creating huge flame wars over it.

I had no problem reading the html post at all.

Personally, I don't care much one way or another, but I prefer html posting
myself, but don't use it.WAY too much wasted time and energy replying to
people who aren't set up to read html.


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joe
June 16th 04, 05:06 PM
On 6/15/04 11:12 PM, "Mary kate" wrote:

> I pushed my ( remove signature ) button so hopefully that's the same as
> removing my HTML, if not, I sure don't want to have to errase everything
> in my signature box just to ask a question here and then type it all
> back in again...ugh Why is it just THIS discussion group you have to
> remove the html......No other groups have any problems with
> html.......just curious.
>

I don't know why I had a problem reading your post. Normally I can see html
stuff just fine, but all I got on yours was the black screen and a link at
the bottom. I think the reason we prefer non-html is just because of this
situation. I don't know if some of the people using webTV have more trouble
than the rest, but you want your message to be seen by as many as possible.

Joe



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Mary kate
June 16th 04, 05:36 PM
so are you able to read this one okay then ? ( by me turning off my
signature )

joe
June 16th 04, 07:22 PM
Yup.

Thanks,

Joe

On 6/16/04 9:36 AM, "Mary kate" wrote:

> so are you able to read this one okay then ? ( by me turning off my
> signature )
>



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