water hyacinth

[Coffee]

My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing and
spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its dying. The
fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every day
here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem and how
can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water and all.
Patty

[chagoi]

Coffee wrote:
> My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing and
> spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its dying. The
> fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every day
> here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem and how
> can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water and all.
> Patty

All my WH were the same way. when I added my Wh the started to turn
brown. As the nitrAtes increased they started to green up again. But it
wasn't till I added Potash to the ponds that they really started to
really GREEN UP. The older leave are still dying, off but the new leaves
and "PUPS" are dark green and growing.

/\/\ike
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:22:09 -0400, chagoi
> wrote:

>Coffee wrote:
>> My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing and
>> spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its dying. The
>> fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every day
>> here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem and how
>> can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water and all.
>> Patty
>

It can be a problem with the plants themselves. Earlier this year I
bought two large WH and put them into my pond. One stayed nice and
green and grew like crazy. The other turned brown and did nothing.
It seems to be coming around now though. Perhaps some damage in
transportation? Dunno.

John

[Benign Vanilla]

"chagoi" > wrote in message
...
> Coffee wrote:
> > My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing and
> > spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its dying.
The
> > fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every day
> > here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem and
how
> > can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water and
all.
> > Patty
>
> All my WH were the same way. when I added my Wh the started to turn
> brown. As the nitrAtes increased they started to green up again. But it
> wasn't till I added Potash to the ponds that they really started to
> really GREEN UP. The older leave are still dying, off but the new leaves
> and "PUPS" are dark green and growing.
<snip>

I am normally against dosing haphazardly, but since Potash is a relatively
safe addition to the pond, I'll chime in that I agree. My plants seem to
yellow, and then go back to green when I does with Potash. I use a fat
tablespoon per 1000 gallons, every few weeks.

BV.

[Coffee]

Thanks guys,
I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
Where can he get this potash from?
Would Home Depot have it?
Patty
"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "chagoi" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Coffee wrote:
> > > My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing
and
> > > spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its
dying.
> The
> > > fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every
day
> > > here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem
and
> how
> > > can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water
and
> all.
> > > Patty
> >
> > All my WH were the same way. when I added my Wh the started to turn
> > brown. As the nitrAtes increased they started to green up again. But it
> > wasn't till I added Potash to the ponds that they really started to
> > really GREEN UP. The older leave are still dying, off but the new leaves
> > and "PUPS" are dark green and growing.
> <snip>
>
> I am normally against dosing haphazardly, but since Potash is a relatively
> safe addition to the pond, I'll chime in that I agree. My plants seem to
> yellow, and then go back to green when I does with Potash. I use a fat
> tablespoon per 1000 gallons, every few weeks.
>
> BV.
>
>

[cb_ng]

I had to get mine at a specialty store.... (Earl May Garden Center).... I
use it to jump start my WH. Last year they grew like crazy... 18 - 24
inches in height... roots up to around 3 feet in length. Once you get them
growing strong... stop or extremely cut back on the potash and they will
bloom like crazy.


"Coffee" > wrote in message
...
> Thanks guys,
> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> Where can he get this potash from?
> Would Home Depot have it?
> Patty
> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "chagoi" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Coffee wrote:
> > > > My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing
> and
> > > > spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its
> dying.
> > The
> > > > fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every
> day
> > > > here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem
> and
> > how
> > > > can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water
> and
> > all.
> > > > Patty
> > >
> > > All my WH were the same way. when I added my Wh the started to turn
> > > brown. As the nitrAtes increased they started to green up again. But
it
> > > wasn't till I added Potash to the ponds that they really started to
> > > really GREEN UP. The older leave are still dying, off but the new
leaves
> > > and "PUPS" are dark green and growing.
> > <snip>
> >
> > I am normally against dosing haphazardly, but since Potash is a
relatively
> > safe addition to the pond, I'll chime in that I agree. My plants seem to
> > yellow, and then go back to green when I does with Potash. I use a fat
> > tablespoon per 1000 gallons, every few weeks.
> >
> > BV.
> >
> >
>
>

[chagoi]

Coffee wrote:

> Thanks guys,
> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> Where can he get this potash from?
> Would Home Depot have it?
> Patty

Check your local Farm Bureau, some HD carry it.
If your around the eastern part of Pa. Tatamy Farm Bureau is where I
got mine.

Look for Murate of Potash or Sulfate of Potash. The bag should have the
proportions listed as something like 0-0-30, or 0-0-50.

0% Nitrogen
0% Phosphorus
50% Potasium


>"chagoi" > wrote in message
...
>
>>Coffee wrote:

>>My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing
> and spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its
> dying. The fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every
> day here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem
> and how can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water
> and all.

snip

>>I am normally against dosing haphazardly, but since Potash is a relatively
>>safe addition to the pond, I'll chime in that I agree. My plants seem to
>>yellow, and then go back to green when I does with Potash. I use a fat
>>tablespoon per 1000 gallons, every few weeks.
>>
>>BV.

I usually use 1 tablespoons / 1000 gal / week With no ill effects.

Chagoi
http://ourkoipond.com
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I got 50# from HD 2 years ago. I still have 40#.

Coffee wrote:

> Thanks guys,
> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> Where can he get this potash from?
> Would Home Depot have it?

[Go Fig]

In article >, Coffee
> wrote:

> Thanks guys,
> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> Where can he get this potash from?
> Would Home Depot have it?

Yes, but it will be sold in the pond section, IIRC. Its packaged by
Beckett. Tetra's "Flora Fin" is the same and more readily available...
this price point is OK for small ponds, but if you need a lot try a
water condition outfit... like Rayne Water.

jay
Fri Jun 18, 2004




> Patty
> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "chagoi" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Coffee wrote:
> > > > My neighbor is having a problem with his hyacinth. It's not growing
> and
> > > > spreading like mine and is browning at the edges--looks like its
> dying.
> > The
> > > > fish looked fine -his water is alittle green. We have had rain every
> day
> > > > here in PA but my plants are doing great. What could be the problem
> and
> > how
> > > > can he fix it? We are only 2 blocks away from each other-same water
> and
> > all.
> > > > Patty
> > >
> > > All my WH were the same way. when I added my Wh the started to turn
> > > brown. As the nitrAtes increased they started to green up again. But it
> > > wasn't till I added Potash to the ponds that they really started to
> > > really GREEN UP. The older leave are still dying, off but the new leaves
> > > and "PUPS" are dark green and growing.
> > <snip>
> >
> > I am normally against dosing haphazardly, but since Potash is a relatively
> > safe addition to the pond, I'll chime in that I agree. My plants seem to
> > yellow, and then go back to green when I does with Potash. I use a fat
> > tablespoon per 1000 gallons, every few weeks.
> >
> > BV.
> >
> >
>
>

[Mike Patterson]

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:04:46 -0700, Go Fig > wrote:

>In article >, Coffee
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks guys,
>> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
>> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
>> Where can he get this potash from?
>> Would Home Depot have it?
>
>Yes, but it will be sold in the pond section, IIRC. Its packaged by
>Beckett. Tetra's "Flora Fin" is the same and more readily available...
>this price point is OK for small ponds, but if you need a lot try a
>water condition outfit... like Rayne Water.
>
>jay
>Fri Jun 18, 2004

>
>

FYI,
I tried to find potash at Lowes tonight, no luck. Looked in the pond
stuff and in the fertilizers.

I'd like to try a little bit to see if it greens up the lilies without
inducing a "greenout" in the water.


Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[Go Fig]

In article >, Mike Patterson
> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 19:04:46 -0700, Go Fig > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Coffee
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks guys,
> >> I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
> >> my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> >> Where can he get this potash from?
> >> Would Home Depot have it?
> >
> >Yes, but it will be sold in the pond section, IIRC. Its packaged by
> >Beckett. Tetra's "Flora Fin" is the same and more readily available...
> >this price point is OK for small ponds, but if you need a lot try a
> >water condition outfit... like Rayne Water.
> >
> >jay
> >Fri Jun 18, 2004
>
> >
> >
>
> FYI,
> I tried to find potash at Lowes tonight, no luck. Looked in the pond
> stuff and in the fertilizers.
>
> I'd like to try a little bit to see if it greens up the lilies without
> inducing a "greenout" in the water.

It won't green your water.

This is the Tetra Product, they have a dealer locator link

http://www.tetra-fish.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=134

jay
Fri Jun 18, 2004


>
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
> "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Have him check his pH first. Too high >8.5, Too low <6.5, WH can't take up
the food it needs.

I found my box at a Farm & Garden (Farmer's Exchange) HD didn't have it,
nor any other hardware/garden shop. ~ jan

>I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything in
>my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
>Where can he get this potash from?
>Would Home Depot have it?
>Patty
(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Mike Patterson]

On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:31:59 -0700, Go Fig > wrote:
<snip>
>It won't green your water.
>
>This is the Tetra Product, they have a dealer locator link
>
>http://www.tetra-fish.com/catalog/product.aspx?id=134
>
>jay
>Fri Jun 18, 2004

>
Thanks Jay

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[Coffee]

I found it at Hastings Hardware here in Pgh. He put in 2 tablespoons today-
His pond is approx. 2300 gals. Also heard Algae Fix was good for his green
trouble --does that work?

Patty

"~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
...
> Have him check his pH first. Too high >8.5, Too low <6.5, WH can't take up
> the food it needs.
>
> I found my box at a Farm & Garden (Farmer's Exchange) HD didn't have it,
> nor any other hardware/garden shop. ~ jan
>
> >I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything
in
> >my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> >Where can he get this potash from?
> >Would Home Depot have it?
> >Patty
> (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[Tom L. La Bron]

Patty et al,

I had my first string algae problem this year. My
ponds were dominated by string algae. I had always had
some in late summer but nothing like this year and as
early, almost from starting the pump the first week.
It was clogging everything, especially my cascade
intakes, which, when totally clogged (they had drain
covers that were suppose to prevent a lot of this)
would over flow my ponds, which for above ponds is bad.

A pond company in our area came and spoke to our pond
club and during one part talked about algae and
specifically string algae and suggested using Alge-Fix,
because it yield excellent results, and also suggested
that if you use it to also follow-up with the
recommended dose of EcoFix after the Alge-Fix treatment.

I am not one use a lot of additives in my ponds, but
with my schedule and having to deal with cleaning the
cascade covers with the occasional pond overflows every
night I decided to give it a try. I added the
Alge-Fix, as directed for the required time, and then
followed up with the EcoFix as directed. The string
algae is virtually gone and left a cloudiness in the
pond, which disappeared virtually the first day after
adding the EcoFix.

The lecturer said that his company had used this
formula effectively in their pond business and that the
Alae-Fix got rid of the String algae, but the result
was dead algae in the pond for the pond environment to
deal with, so by adding the EcoFix, which, according to
the literature is "unique, highly active strains of
beneficial bacteria" that "make(s) pond water clear and
clean, allowing you to see and enjoy you beautiful,
healthy fish;" helped clean up the dead algae that was
left in the pond from the Alge-Fix.

Well, all I can say, is that that it "worked for me"
just like they said. Now my ponds are like they
usually are ever year; Clean and clear. What is
interesting is that I knew that there was some
unauthorized spawning going on, but now that they water
is cleared there has been a lot more than I suspected
by the number of young that are swimming around in each
pond.

My water parameters are as follows: pH - 8.3, ammonia
zero, nitrites zero, nitrates zero, KH - 100ppm, and my
GH - 300ppm.

So if your parameters are anything like mine your
success rate with the Alge-Fix/EcoFix combo should
should be pretty high.

HTH

Tom L.L.
===========================================
Coffee wrote:
> I found it at Hastings Hardware here in Pgh. He put in 2 tablespoons today-
> His pond is approx. 2300 gals. Also heard Algae Fix was good for his green
> trouble --does that work?
>
> Patty
>
> "~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>Have him check his pH first. Too high >8.5, Too low <6.5, WH can't take up
>>the food it needs.
>>
>>I found my box at a Farm & Garden (Farmer's Exchange) HD didn't have it,
>>nor any other hardware/garden shop. ~ jan
>>
>>
>>>I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything
>
> in
>
>>>my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
>>>Where can he get this potash from?
>>>Would Home Depot have it?
>>>Patty
>>
>> (Do you know where your water quality is?)
>
>
>

[Coffee]

Thanks Tom
My neighbor added it last nite --today its still yucky but I told him to
make sure he had extra aeration for the fish.
I have a pond to but its been in now for 13yrs and I have yet to take a
reading or add salt.
I have some pictures of mine here
http://community.webshots.com/album/125934886TjkZkm

Patty

"Tom L. La Bron" > wrote in message
...
> Patty et al,
>
> I had my first string algae problem this year. My
> ponds were dominated by string algae. I had always had
> some in late summer but nothing like this year and as
> early, almost from starting the pump the first week.
> It was clogging everything, especially my cascade
> intakes, which, when totally clogged (they had drain
> covers that were suppose to prevent a lot of this)
> would over flow my ponds, which for above ponds is bad.
>
> A pond company in our area came and spoke to our pond
> club and during one part talked about algae and
> specifically string algae and suggested using Alge-Fix,
> because it yield excellent results, and also suggested
> that if you use it to also follow-up with the
> recommended dose of EcoFix after the Alge-Fix treatment.
>
> I am not one use a lot of additives in my ponds, but
> with my schedule and having to deal with cleaning the
> cascade covers with the occasional pond overflows every
> night I decided to give it a try. I added the
> Alge-Fix, as directed for the required time, and then
> followed up with the EcoFix as directed. The string
> algae is virtually gone and left a cloudiness in the
> pond, which disappeared virtually the first day after
> adding the EcoFix.
>
> The lecturer said that his company had used this
> formula effectively in their pond business and that the
> Alae-Fix got rid of the String algae, but the result
> was dead algae in the pond for the pond environment to
> deal with, so by adding the EcoFix, which, according to
> the literature is "unique, highly active strains of
> beneficial bacteria" that "make(s) pond water clear and
> clean, allowing you to see and enjoy you beautiful,
> healthy fish;" helped clean up the dead algae that was
> left in the pond from the Alge-Fix.
>
> Well, all I can say, is that that it "worked for me"
> just like they said. Now my ponds are like they
> usually are ever year; Clean and clear. What is
> interesting is that I knew that there was some
> unauthorized spawning going on, but now that they water
> is cleared there has been a lot more than I suspected
> by the number of young that are swimming around in each
> pond.
>
> My water parameters are as follows: pH - 8.3, ammonia
> zero, nitrites zero, nitrates zero, KH - 100ppm, and my
> GH - 300ppm.
>
> So if your parameters are anything like mine your
> success rate with the Alge-Fix/EcoFix combo should
> should be pretty high.
>
> HTH
>
> Tom L.L.
> ===========================================
> Coffee wrote:
> > I found it at Hastings Hardware here in Pgh. He put in 2 tablespoons
today-
> > His pond is approx. 2300 gals. Also heard Algae Fix was good for his
green
> > trouble --does that work?
> >
> > Patty
> >
> > "~ jan JJsPond.us" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>Have him check his pH first. Too high >8.5, Too low <6.5, WH can't take
up
> >>the food it needs.
> >>
> >>I found my box at a Farm & Garden (Farmer's Exchange) HD didn't have it,
> >>nor any other hardware/garden shop. ~ jan
> >>
> >>
> >>>I knew there was something you could add but since I don't use anything
> >
> > in
> >
> >>>my pond I wasn't sure what, or how much.
> >>>Where can he get this potash from?
> >>>Would Home Depot have it?
> >>>Patty
> >>
> >> (Do you know where your water quality is?)
> >
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> >