Bullfrog vs green frog

[John Bachman]

Now that I finally have a frog in my pond (a big fat one) I need that
link to the bullfrog/green frog differences.

Anyone?

TIA

John

[Ka30P]

Congrats on your frog ;-)

This is a picture of a bullfrog
http://www.willowparkecology.com/images/highrez/bullfrog.jpg

Here is a greenfrog
http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg

The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the back of the
eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs down the
back.


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Susan H. Simko]

Ka30P wrote:
> Congrats on your frog ;-)
>
> This is a picture of a bullfrog
> http://www.willowparkecology.com/images/highrez/bullfrog.jpg
>
> Here is a greenfrog
> http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg
>
> The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the back of the
> eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs down the
> back.

Don't forget the big difference in voice. Green frogs sound
distinctively like the twang of a banjo string.

http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frogs_state.cfm

has a list of frogs native ot your area with audio sound clips for each.

I find it a lot easier to distinguish my frog and toad visitors and
residents by voice.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[jammer]

I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't in
a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies of
water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends since
i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are all
but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. :( I
liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or not.
Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.






On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:45:21 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
> wrote:

>Ka30P wrote:
>> Congrats on your frog ;-)
>>
>> This is a picture of a bullfrog
>> http://www.willowparkecology.com/images/highrez/bullfrog.jpg
>>
>> Here is a greenfrog
>> http://vergil.hackedtobits.com/greenfrog.jpg
>>
>> The distinguishing characteristic is the ridge that starts at the
back of the
>> eye. Bullfrog - it curves around the eardrum, greenfrog - it runs
down the
>> back.
>
>Don't forget the big difference in voice. Green frogs sound
>distinctively like the twang of a banjo string.
>
>http://www.nwf.org/frogwatchUSA/frogs_state.cfm
>
>has a list of frogs native ot your area with audio sound clips for
each.
>
>I find it a lot easier to distinguish my frog and toad visitors and
>residents by voice.
>
>Susan
>shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[Susan H. Simko]

jammer wrote:
> I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't in
> a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies of
> water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
> bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends since
> i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
> next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
> didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are all
> but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
> whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. :( I
> liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or not.
> Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.

My green frog and my toads somewhat peacefully co-exist and I don't know
about bulls and toads.

OTOH, most things don't eat toadpoles or toads. Toads have a poison sac
under their back that makes them a very unpleasant snack. My
understanding is that the same holds true of toadpoles - very unpleasant
to eat. However, I will admit that I have seen my shubunkin snacking on
my toadpoles though I suspect it was more out of annoyance then desire
to eat them.

Perhaps your toadpoles have fledged? Depending upon water temps they
can be gone in as little as three weeks. IIRC, you're in TX so you
probably have warmer water temps than I have in NC. My toadpoles were
out of the pond in about 4 weeks here.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[jammer]

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:59:28 -0400, "Susan H. Simko"
> wrote:

>jammer wrote:
>> I think i have a bullfrog after looking at many pictures. I didn't
in
>> a million years expect to see one here because there are no bodies
of
>> water around here except for my 2 yr old puddle. This thing is way
>> bigger than the toads and i haven't seen any of my toad friends
since
>> i saw the bullfrog. That bothers me. If it stays, what will happen
>> next mating season? Will it chase off the mating pairs of toads? I
>> didn't find any info that said b.frogs eat toads, but my tads are
all
>> but missing and i am not seeing babies near the pond and no adults
>> whatsoever. And the pondmaster toad doesnt go there any more. :( I
>> liked watching him eat and he could care less if i was there or
not.
>> Maybe i'll run it off this fall, i dont know.
>
>My green frog and my toads somewhat peacefully co-exist and I don't
know
>about bulls and toads.
>
>OTOH, most things don't eat toadpoles or toads. Toads have a poison
sac
>under their back that makes them a very unpleasant snack. My
>understanding is that the same holds true of toadpoles - very
unpleasant
>to eat. However, I will admit that I have seen my shubunkin snacking
on
>my toadpoles though I suspect it was more out of annoyance then
desire
>to eat them.
>
>Perhaps your toadpoles have fledged? Depending upon water temps they
>can be gone in as little as three weeks. IIRC, you're in TX so you
>probably have warmer water temps than I have in NC. My toadpoles
were
>out of the pond in about 4 weeks here.
>
>Susan
>shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

I found about 100 tadpoles (toadpoles) on top of a pot and fed them
flake fish food. So, i am no longer worried about the bullfrog chowing
down on them.

Some of the tads have fledged because i found a couple baby toads no
bigger than my pinky nail cut down to the quick. I had housed 15
toadpoles in an aquarium and they were toads in a month. These are
over 2 months old and still no front legs. Guess it all depends on
food supply and space as well as temperature.

Thanks for your reply.

[jammer]

I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the back,
green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
rather thin.

[Benign Vanilla]

"jammer" > wrote in message
...
> I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
> see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
> looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
> it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the back,
> green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
> Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
> rather thin.

I have some new found bull's in my pond this year as well. I can't get pics
though, as my digi-cam is dead. Anyway, here is a photo of a green frog,
http://www.darofamily.com/jeff/files/2004/may/batch2/p1010009.jpg. You can
tell it's a green, because of the fold of skin that runs down it's back. On
a bull, that fold turns 90 degrees down to the front legs.

BV.

[WilsonKKW]

tht is a handsome frog! I wish he was mine

[[email protected]]

OK Ms Piggie
Lets not pine over each others frogs :)
(WilsonKKW) wrote in message >...
> tht is a handsome frog! I wish he was mine

[WilsonKKW]

I wonder if it's true,.kissing frogs.....I need a prince..LOL

[jammer]

*I got a real good look at this bullfrog tonight. This thing is very skinny. I dont see many
*rodents or snakes, etc, for it to feed on. What can i get to help it that won't run off? What
*do i do?? I really dont want to try feeder fish because i am down to 3 and i want to keep 3.







On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer > wrote:

>I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
>see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
>looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
>it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
back,
>green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
>Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
>rather thin.

[jammer]

On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:57:50 -0500, jammer > wrote:

>*I got a real good look at this bullfrog tonight. This thing is very
skinny. I dont see many
>*rodents or snakes, etc, for it to feed on. What can i get to help it
that won't run off? What
>*do i do?? I really dont want to try feeder fish because i am down
to 3 and i want to keep 3.

*Someone suggested throwing mice in the pond. I can't kill anything!!!!

[Ka30P]

Jammer,

I used to buy crickets for my frogs.
They sell them at most pet stores.
Nice and tasty!


kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[jammer]

But this is a big scared giant thing hiding by a little puddle and if
i released crickets, they would just run off. I am at a loss at what
to do!!




On 12 Jul 2004 13:57:13 GMT, (Ka30P) wrote:

>
>Jammer,
>
>I used to buy crickets for my frogs.
>They sell them at most pet stores.
>Nice and tasty!
>
>
>kathy :-)
>algae primer
>http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Iris]

We were quite tickled when a bullfrog showed up at our pond a couple
years ago. Then my fav fish ,a pretty Shubunkin
I called Studley went missing.We keep the pond netted because of cats.
Then I went out a day or so later & there was the frog with the back
part of a finch sticking out of his mouth. He had choked on it. So
mystery of Studley was solved. Iris

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Ship him to BV, he's got a rat problem so I hear. ;o) ~ jan

>On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 00:57:50 -0500, jammer > wrote:

>*I got a real good look at this bullfrog tonight. This thing is very skinny. I dont see many
>*rodents or snakes, etc, for it to feed on. What can i get to help it that won't run off? What
>*do i do?? I really dont want to try feeder fish because i am down to 3 and i want to keep 3.

(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[jammer]

*Ok, Kathy, thanks. I think i will let nature take it's course. I just feel bad for it,
* because i think someone had it held captive until it got too skinny and then let it go,
*and this enviroment wont let it fatten up i dont think. I did have a thought....
Last year i heard rats run across the back fence. Being hard up for
seeing critters, i put a piece of bread inside my fence and watched as
a rat took it. What if i put a piece of bread or several, where the
frog hangs out? Think he'd have a better chance of finding food?

~I always appreciate your replies.




On 13 Jul 2004 22:18:14 GMT, (Ka30P) wrote:

>
>Jammer, if the bullfrog can't hunt down the crickets then it is sick
and will
>probably die.
>
>The only other thing you could do is stick the bullfrog and the
cricket at the
>bottom of some container and let him have an easy cricket hunt.
>
>
>kathy :-)
>algae primer
>http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[Ka30P]

Jammer wrote
>>What if i put a piece of bread or several, where the
frog hangs out? Think he'd have a better chance of finding food?<<

You can always try, he might catch a mouse.
You could also dig up a worm and give it to him.
Frogs need to see their dinner move to catch it so a nice wiggly worm might be
welcome.



kathy :-)
algae primer
http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

Jammer, this is very interesting and your bullfrog may become the RP
mascot, so let us know how he does and what works for you. ~ jan

>On 14 Jul 2004 01:50:01 GMT, (Ka30P) wrote:

>Jammer wrote
>>>What if i put a piece of bread or several, where the
>frog hangs out? Think he'd have a better chance of finding food?<<
>
>You can always try, he might catch a mouse.
>You could also dig up a worm and give it to him.
>Frogs need to see their dinner move to catch it so a nice wiggly worm might be
>welcome.
>
>
>
>kathy :-)
>algae primer
>http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html

(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[jammer]

Oh my! I would be toooo proud to hold the mascot!
LOL
I dont see him there tonight, but i am going to throw some bread out
where he usually hangs out and the next time i see him, i will know if
it worked. I'll kepp you posted and thanks!



On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 14:31:22 -0700, ~ jan JJsPond.us
> wrote:

>Jammer, this is very interesting and your bullfrog may become the RP
>mascot, so let us know how he does and what works for you. ~ jan
>
>>On 14 Jul 2004 01:50:01 GMT, (Ka30P) wrote:
>
>>Jammer wrote
>>>>What if i put a piece of bread or several, where the
>>frog hangs out? Think he'd have a better chance of finding food?<<
>>
>>You can always try, he might catch a mouse.
>>You could also dig up a worm and give it to him.
>>Frogs need to see their dinner move to catch it so a nice wiggly
worm might be
>>welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>>kathy :-)
>>algae primer
>>http://hometown.aol.com/ka30p/myhomepage/garden.html
>
> (Do you know where your water quality is?)

[jammer]

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer > wrote:

>I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
>see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
>looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
>it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
back,
>green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
>Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
>rather thin.


Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

[zookeeper]

Great news! good to hear he's doing well. Although I wouldn't say that if he
were here ... bullfrogs here have over-run much of the native ponds / water
and have added to the serious reduction of local frogs, toads and turtles.
We did have two bullfrogs for a couple years, but they finally died without
replacing themselves.
--
zookeeper
Oregon, USDA Zone 7
3500gal pond, 13 koi

"jammer" wrote:
>
> Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.
>

[Roy]

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 00:20:57 -0500, jammer > wrote:

>===<>On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 04:55:43 -0500, jammer > wrote:
>===<>
>===<>>I finally got a pretty good look at the big frog tonight. I couldn't
>===<>>see it's feet, but it is about 5 inches long without it's feet. After
>===<>>looking at it and then looking at pictures, the only way to tell was
>===<>>it's size. It has to be a (young?) bullfrog. It is brown on the
>===<>back,
>===<>>green on the head, white on it's chest and yellow around it's mouth.
>===<>>Quite a good specimen. So far it hasn't eaten my 3 fish. It looks
>===<>>rather thin.
>===<>
>===<>
>===<>Bullfrog update: He is maturing and has fattened up.

We have had a huge bull frog in our pond for a few years now, and a
few nights ago I happened to spot him inside the gazeebo.......I
played the flashlight beam onto him, and he just froze where he was
at, and I was able to round him up. He was quite a handfull. About the
size of a large grey squirrel or half grown rabbit. Anyways we looked
him over a bit and then put him back down and left him go his own way.
LAst night the wife spotted him in the barn setting there catching
bugs under the chicks brooder. When you walk around the pond at night
and he is there and jumps in it sounds like someone threw a brickl in
the water, he makes such a large splash.......
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[Harriett Wright]

I was surprised to learn recently that although bullfrogs are native here in
Florida, they are not indigenous to the western states, but have been
introduced there and are now regarded as a pest species because of their
depredations on smaller native frogs. I've heard that a bullfrog will eat
anything he can get into his large mouth, and my own experience tells me
that this is true. This spring a large male decided to be a big frog in a
small pond (mine!): he's done away with three of my goldfish as well as any
number of his own children: I actually watched him grab one right off a
lily pad! He isn't at all shy, but lets me get quite close to him. He used
to serenade us day and night, but I haven't heard him for about a week, and
thought he had either moved away or been taken away by a big bird. (I
watched one afternoon while an osprey swooped down and grabbed one of his
brothers.) He's still here though--I saw him yesterday. Maybe the bullfrog
mating season is over for the year.

The wonderful thing about a pond is that something interesting is always
happening there.

Harriett

[Stephen M. Henning]

"Harriett Wright" > wrote:

> I've heard that a bullfrog will eat
> anything he can get into his large mouth, and my own experience tells me
> that this is true ... He isn't at all shy, but lets me get quite close
> to him.

Watch out!

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