Shipping Fish at Hypo salinity?

[Seaguru]

Hello,

If is still around, this is question is for you or
any one else who cares to give their input...

Was wondering if I can transport/ship fish for about a 3-4 hour period
either by car or air in hyposaline water with no adverse affects?
(Salinity=1.010)

Or is there a concern with pH dropping, or some other dangers to the
fish?

Thanks.

[Dinky]

"Seaguru" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello,
>
> If is still around, this is question is for you or
> any one else who cares to give their input...
>
Damn dude, you just guarranteed that homereef's mailbox is goiong to be
bombed with a ****load of spam by morning, assuming thats a real addy.
NEVER post a real email address on USENET. NEVER NEVER NEVER. The bots pick
them up in seconds and sign you up for everything under the sun.

As for your question, that's a tricky one. Why can't you transport the fish
at 22? Marine fish can survive brief (couple minutes) exposure to straight
*freshwater* but 3-4 hours at the low salinity may cause problems. I'd
repost this, minus the email address, in rec.aquaria.marine.reefs and hope
for the experts to pipe up.

billy

[Benjamin]

Hmmm... Wonder why the bots generally ignore me?

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"Dinky" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Seaguru" > wrote in message
> om...
> > Hello,
> >
> > If is still around, this is question is for you or
> > any one else who cares to give their input...
> >
> Damn dude, you just guarranteed that homereef's mailbox is goiong to be
> bombed with a ****load of spam by morning, assuming thats a real addy.
> NEVER post a real email address on USENET. NEVER NEVER NEVER. The bots
pick
> them up in seconds and sign you up for everything under the sun.
>
> As for your question, that's a tricky one. Why can't you transport the
fish
> at 22? Marine fish can survive brief (couple minutes) exposure to straight
> *freshwater* but 3-4 hours at the low salinity may cause problems. I'd
> repost this, minus the email address, in rec.aquaria.marine.reefs and hope
> for the experts to pipe up.
>
> billy
>
>

[Dinky]

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Hmmm... Wonder why the bots generally ignore me?
>


They don't. They collect anything resembling an email address. Some people's
ISP's filter obvious spam with greater effectiveness than others. Mine,
Earthlink, is rather poor. Just about everything comes through.

[Dragon Slayer]

the problem is the ammonia is more toxic to them at the lower salinity.
hypo works great in a QT tank to cure ich but I wouldn't take a chance with
them in a bag during shipping/travel. the salt to boost that much water to
22-26 isn't going to be that much.

kc

"Seaguru" > wrote in message
om...
> Hello,
>
> If is still around, this is question is for you or
> any one else who cares to give their input...
>
> Was wondering if I can transport/ship fish for about a 3-4 hour period
> either by car or air in hyposaline water with no adverse affects?
> (Salinity=1.010)
>
> Or is there a concern with pH dropping, or some other dangers to the
> fish?
>
> Thanks.

[Benjamin]

Dinky,

I know, I was just trying to spark conversation as to why you felt so
strongly about that. The use of "NEVER post a real email address on
USENET. NEVER NEVER NEVER." caught my attention. Sorry Earthlink lets so
much through to your inbox. Maybe someday Spam will be like slate bottom
tanks.

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"Dinky" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Benjamin" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Hmmm... Wonder why the bots generally ignore me?
> >
>
>
> They don't. They collect anything resembling an email address. Some
people's
> ISP's filter obvious spam with greater effectiveness than others. Mine,
> Earthlink, is rather poor. Just about everything comes through.
>
>

[Dinky]

"Benjamin" > wrote in message
...
> Dinky,
>
> I know, I was just trying to spark conversation as to why you felt so
> strongly about that.

Cuz I learned the hard way, and had to give up an email address that I
valued. I posted a couple years ago with my real addy in the 'reply to' for
about a week when the spam started coming. And coming. Got to where I was
getting 50+ spam a day. I thought I was careful! I posted my complaint on
the Winextra (then Toolfox) groups, and someone pointed out my error. Still
the damage was done. The spam continued to increase, until the address was
unuseable. I was going over my storage limit 2-3 times a day, and missing
real email.

Spammers! You will perish in flames!


billy

[Richard Reynolds]

> Was wondering if I can transport/ship fish for about a 3-4 hour period
> either by car or air in hyposaline water with no adverse affects?
> (Salinity=1.010)

almost the exact discussion is taking place on reefcentral right now,

you will find a cross of a few things,

lowering the salinity is a good idea but only under odd ball conditions going down in
salinity takes little effort for SW fish, going UP however is a different story your few
hour drive will require many hours or even days to raise the salinity safely. a catch on
the ammonia side is the lower the salinity and increased CO2 from being in a bag the lower
you can keep pH and the less toxic ammonia will be. but its not a good trade way to many
problems.

in the end ship full salinity and use amquel+ plus or the like.

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Richard Reynolds