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Gary
July 10th 04, 01:05 AM
"But the greatest menace to our civilization today is the conflict between
giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each system only too
delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the
sins give it the pretext for still deeper hatred and animosity." - Herbert
Butterfield

This I fear fuels our desire to "help" the rest of the world see what is
"right" and "good". And we are all to willing to kill to prove we are
"good" and they are "evil".

bluegill phil
July 10th 04, 08:18 PM
Yeah like in Bosina. We should have let the serbs do what they wanted.



On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:05:30 -0400, "Gary" >
wrote:

>"But the greatest menace to our civilization today is the conflict between
>giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each system only too
>delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the
>sins give it the pretext for still deeper hatred and animosity." - Herbert
>Butterfield
>
>This I fear fuels our desire to "help" the rest of the world see what is
>"right" and "good". And we are all to willing to kill to prove we are
>"good" and they are "evil".
>

PlainBill
July 11th 04, 12:11 AM
On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:05:30 -0400, "Gary" >
wrote:

>"But the greatest menace to our civilization today is the conflict between
>giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each system only too
>delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the
>sins give it the pretext for still deeper hatred and animosity." - Herbert
>Butterfield
>
>This I fear fuels our desire to "help" the rest of the world see what is
>"right" and "good". And we are all to willing to kill to prove we are
>"good" and they are "evil".
>

Unfortunately, it is too easy to decide what is diffferent is evil.
Certainly the atrocity of 'ethnic cleansing' in Bosnia and other
places in the past, and now in the Sudan is wrong.

But a larger question is, how much effort must we make to stamp out
evil? And which is the greater evil? Allowing 'ethnic cleansing', or
the inevitable killing of bystanders while trying to stop it?

How about the polio epidemic sweeping through parts of Africa
because the (mainly Moslem) leaders felt it was ACTUALLY a program to
sterilize the children? How about the aids epidemic, also
devastating Aftrica? How about the root causes?

No, I don't have any easy answers, but I sure wish I did!

PlainBill

Pond Diver
July 11th 04, 12:12 AM
Yeah Hitler wasn't evil he was just misunderstood. He and the Nazis loved 6
million people to death...


>
>
> On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:05:30 -0400, "Gary" >
> wrote:
>
> >"But the greatest menace to our civilization today is the conflict
between
> >giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each system only too
> >delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the
> >sins give it the pretext for still deeper hatred and animosity." -
Herbert
> >Butterfield
> >
> >This I fear fuels our desire to "help" the rest of the world see what is
> >"right" and "good". And we are all to willing to kill to prove we are
> >"good" and they are "evil".
> >
>

PlainBill
July 11th 04, 12:13 AM
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:18:20 -0500, bluegill phil <> wrote:

>Yeah like in Bosina. We should have let the serbs do what they wanted.
>
>
>
>On Fri, 9 Jul 2004 20:05:30 -0400, "Gary" >
>wrote:
>
>>"But the greatest menace to our civilization today is the conflict between
>>giant organized systems of self-righteousness - each system only too
>>delighted to find that the other is wicked - each only too glad that the
>>sins give it the pretext for still deeper hatred and animosity." - Herbert
>>Butterfield
>>
>>This I fear fuels our desire to "help" the rest of the world see what is
>>"right" and "good". And we are all to willing to kill to prove we are
>>"good" and they are "evil".
>>

Spoken like a true Gentleman. <Sarcasm mode off>

PlainBill