LA area rock question

[Dsybok]

Greetings,

Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15 years, but
recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round hobby
and Im looking forward to that.

Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel style
trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for several
weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very quickly.
I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add additional fish
for several weeks.

Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a local
source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50 or so
natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall construction. Im
planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and the
front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area , probably
without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the pond via a
5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and hide with
boulders and rock.

Thanks for your help

D

[Zeuspaul]

Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the Harbor
freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH at the
Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south side of
PCH.

Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit your
needs.

Dsybok > wrote in article
t>...
> Greetings,
>
> Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15 years, but
> recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
> flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round hobby
> and Im looking forward to that.
>
> Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel style
> trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for several
> weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
quickly.
> I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add additional
fish
> for several weeks.
>
> Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a local
> source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50 or so
> natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall construction. Im
> planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and the
> front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area , probably
> without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the pond via
a
> 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and hide
with
> boulders and rock.
>
> Thanks for your help
>
> D
>
>
>

[Zeuspaul]

oops...that would be north on the 405 to the Harbor freeway

Zeuspaul > wrote in article
<01c46acb$8bcd2800$331a480c@zeus1>...
> Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the Harbor
> freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH at
the
> Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south side
of
> PCH.
>
> Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit your
> needs.
>
> Dsybok > wrote in article
> t>...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15 years,
but
> > recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
> > flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round
hobby
> > and Im looking forward to that.
> >
> > Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel style
> > trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for several
> > weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
> quickly.
> > I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add additional
> fish
> > for several weeks.
> >
> > Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a local
> > source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50 or
so
> > natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall construction.
Im
> > planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and
the
> > front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area , probably
> > without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the pond
via
> a
> > 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and hide
> with
> > boulders and rock.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> >
>

[Dsybok]

Thanks, Lowes is not panning out, too fake looking and nothing in the colors
I want for the flagstones, and they dont carry natural boulders. Ill look
this place up.

D

"Zeuspaul" > wrote in message
news:01c46acb$8bcd2800$331a480c@zeus1...
> Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the Harbor
> freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH at the
> Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south side
of
> PCH.
>
> Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit your
> needs.
>
> Dsybok > wrote in article
> t>...
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15 years,
but
> > recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
> > flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round
hobby
> > and Im looking forward to that.
> >
> > Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel style
> > trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for several
> > weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
> quickly.
> > I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add additional
> fish
> > for several weeks.
> >
> > Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a local
> > source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50 or
so
> > natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall construction. Im
> > planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and the
> > front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area , probably
> > without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the pond
via
> a
> > 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and hide
> with
> > boulders and rock.
> >
> > Thanks for your help
> >
> > D
> >
> >
> >

[Just Me \Koi\]

If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all the
rocks you want for free!
My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of the
Ontario Airport.)

You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Thanks, Lowes is not panning out, too fake looking and nothing in the
colors
> I want for the flagstones, and they dont carry natural boulders. Ill look
> this place up.
>
> D
>
> "Zeuspaul" > wrote in message
> news:01c46acb$8bcd2800$331a480c@zeus1...
> > Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the Harbor
> > freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH at
the
> > Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south side
> of
> > PCH.
> >
> > Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit your
> > needs.
> >
> > Dsybok > wrote in article
> > t>...
> > > Greetings,
> > >
> > > Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15 years,
> but
> > > recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
> > > flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round
> hobby
> > > and Im looking forward to that.
> > >
> > > Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel style
> > > trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for
several
> > > weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
> > quickly.
> > > I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add
additional
> > fish
> > > for several weeks.
> > >
> > > Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a
local
> > > source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50 or
> so
> > > natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall construction.
Im
> > > planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and
the
> > > front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area , probably
> > > without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the pond
> via
> > a
> > > 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and hide
> > with
> > > boulders and rock.
> > >
> > > Thanks for your help
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

[Dsybok]

Sorry, I just sold my "beefy truck" which was a grand caravan and could only
hold about 500 pounds worth before becoming a little tipsy at speed.

Now im down to renting a truck from somewhere just to get 10 bags of mulch
and a couple dozen boulders. Hopefully some local company has already driven
up by you , picked up what I need, and will sell me said items for a
reasonable profit! I bet not...

D

"Just Me "Koi"" > wrote in message
...
> If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all the
> rocks you want for free!
> My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of the
> Ontario Airport.)
>
> You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!
>
> --
> _______________________________________
> "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
> like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
> The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
>
> "Dsybok" > wrote in message
> ink.net...
> > Thanks, Lowes is not panning out, too fake looking and nothing in the
> colors
> > I want for the flagstones, and they dont carry natural boulders. Ill
look
> > this place up.
> >
> > D
> >
> > "Zeuspaul" > wrote in message
> > news:01c46acb$8bcd2800$331a480c@zeus1...
> > > Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the Harbor
> > > freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH at
> the
> > > Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south
side
> > of
> > > PCH.
> > >
> > > Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit
your
> > > needs.
> > >
> > > Dsybok > wrote in article
> > > t>...
> > > > Greetings,
> > > >
> > > > Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15
years,
> > but
> > > > recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so gallon
> > > > flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year round
> > hobby
> > > > and Im looking forward to that.
> > > >
> > > > Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel
style
> > > > trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for
> several
> > > > weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
> > > quickly.
> > > > I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add
> additional
> > > fish
> > > > for several weeks.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a
> local
> > > > source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least 50
or
> > so
> > > > natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall
construction.
> Im
> > > > planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border and
> the
> > > > front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area ,
probably
> > > > without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the
pond
> > via
> > > a
> > > > 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and
hide
> > > with
> > > > boulders and rock.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your help
> > > >
> > > > D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Sean Dinh]

Is it legal to load them from the riverbed underneath the I-15?

Just Me \"Koi\" wrote:

> If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all the
> rocks you want for free!
> My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of the
> Ontario Airport.)
>
> You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!

[Just Me \Koi\]

I don't know. But around here you don't need to do that. We grow them by
the thousands. There is a road that runs parallel to the new 210 freeway
(19th Street), at the Campus Avenue exit there is a massive development
(thousands of acres I bet). They a re moving some rocks! Stop by your spot
of choice and load up! We all do it right in front of the police officers
setting speed traps. Ok to pick, but illegal to dump!

All the rock around my pond came from inside the hole. Sometimes I feel
like if you need a rock, just dig a hole anywhere in the yard, there will be
a rock inside.

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Sean Dinh" > wrote in message
...
> Is it legal to load them from the riverbed underneath the I-15?
>
> Just Me \"Koi\" wrote:
>
> > If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all the
> > rocks you want for free!
> > My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of the
> > Ontario Airport.)
> >
> > You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> > implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!
>

[Just Me \Koi\]

There is plenty left to do a trillion billion jizillion ponds!

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Sorry, I just sold my "beefy truck" which was a grand caravan and could
only
> hold about 500 pounds worth before becoming a little tipsy at speed.
>
> Now im down to renting a truck from somewhere just to get 10 bags of mulch
> and a couple dozen boulders. Hopefully some local company has already
driven
> up by you , picked up what I need, and will sell me said items for a
> reasonable profit! I bet not...
>
> D
>
> "Just Me "Koi"" > wrote in message
> ...
> > If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all the
> > rocks you want for free!
> > My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of the
> > Ontario Airport.)
> >
> > You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> > implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________
> > "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
> > like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
> > The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
> >
> > "Dsybok" > wrote in message
> > ink.net...
> > > Thanks, Lowes is not panning out, too fake looking and nothing in the
> > colors
> > > I want for the flagstones, and they dont carry natural boulders. Ill
> look
> > > this place up.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > "Zeuspaul" > wrote in message
> > > news:01c46acb$8bcd2800$331a480c@zeus1...
> > > > Thompson's has a good selection natural rock. 405 south to the
Harbor
> > > > freeway. South on the Harbor freeway to PCH. Thompson's is on PCH
at
> > the
> > > > Harbor freeway on the East side of the Harbor freeway on the south
> side
> > > of
> > > > PCH.
> > > >
> > > > Lowes has a limited selection of natural paving rock that may suit
> your
> > > > needs.
> > > >
> > > > Dsybok > wrote in article
> > > > t>...
> > > > > Greetings,
> > > > >
> > > > > Im new to the group, Ive kept koi in small ponds for around 15
> years,
> > > but
> > > > > recently took the plunge, heh heh, and dug myself a 600 or so
gallon
> > > > > flexible liner pond. Fortunately my climate makes this a year
round
> > > hobby
> > > > > and Im looking forward to that.
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now I am using seed water from the old pond, and a barrel
> style
> > > > > trickle bio ball filter which ran in my old 100 gallon pond for
> > several
> > > > > weeks, so I anticipate the new pond to have its bio system up very
> > > > quickly.
> > > > > I added 4 small koi which inhabited my old pond but wont add
> > additional
> > > > fish
> > > > > for several weeks.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, on to my question, can any fellow pond o philes suggest a
> > local
> > > > > source ( Long Beach area) for landscaping rock? I need at least
50
> or
> > > so
> > > > > natural boulder rocks for my pond borders and waterfall
> construction.
> > Im
> > > > > planning to surround the back and sides with natural rock border
and
> > the
> > > > > front edge with flagstones. Then build up a waterfall area ,
> probably
> > > > > without mortar to camoflage my filter unit which connects to the
> pond
> > > via
> > > > a
> > > > > 5 gallon pre formed streambed section which I will also fill and
> hide
> > > > with
> > > > > boulders and rock.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your help
> > > > >
> > > > > D
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Dsybok]

So you think its okay to just go on up and pick up what I need from the side
of the road around that spot? If so Im going to rent a truck and do so, I
havent been able to find anything close to what I need around here (
Lakewood) and being a floodplain, I cant dig and find anything but clay.

Thanks

D

"Just Me "Koi"" > wrote in message
...
> I don't know. But around here you don't need to do that. We grow them by
> the thousands. There is a road that runs parallel to the new 210 freeway
> (19th Street), at the Campus Avenue exit there is a massive development
> (thousands of acres I bet). They a re moving some rocks! Stop by your
spot
> of choice and load up! We all do it right in front of the police officers
> setting speed traps. Ok to pick, but illegal to dump!
>
> All the rock around my pond came from inside the hole. Sometimes I feel
> like if you need a rock, just dig a hole anywhere in the yard, there will
be
> a rock inside.
>
> --
> _______________________________________
> "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
> like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
> The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
>
> "Sean Dinh" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Is it legal to load them from the riverbed underneath the I-15?
> >
> > Just Me \"Koi\" wrote:
> >
> > > If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all
the
> > > rocks you want for free!
> > > My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of
the
> > > Ontario Airport.)
> > >
> > > You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> > > implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!
> >
>
>

[Just Me \Koi\]

It is perfectly ok. Bring reinforcement! Rock picking is a back breaking
endeavor. You may want to drive by and look at the rocks before you spend
money renting a truck!

BTW, I will not be online for the next 2 weeks. On vacation to the East
Coast.

--
_______________________________________
"The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."

http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> So you think its okay to just go on up and pick up what I need from the
side
> of the road around that spot? If so Im going to rent a truck and do so, I
> havent been able to find anything close to what I need around here (
> Lakewood) and being a floodplain, I cant dig and find anything but clay.
>
> Thanks
>
> D
>
> "Just Me "Koi"" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I don't know. But around here you don't need to do that. We grow them
by
> > the thousands. There is a road that runs parallel to the new 210
freeway
> > (19th Street), at the Campus Avenue exit there is a massive development
> > (thousands of acres I bet). They a re moving some rocks! Stop by your
> spot
> > of choice and load up! We all do it right in front of the police
officers
> > setting speed traps. Ok to pick, but illegal to dump!
> >
> > All the rock around my pond came from inside the hole. Sometimes I feel
> > like if you need a rock, just dig a hole anywhere in the yard, there
will
> be
> > a rock inside.
> >
> > --
> > _______________________________________
> > "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is
> > like an eggs-and-ham breakfast:
> > The chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
> >
> > http://community.webshots.com/user/godwino
> >
> > "Sean Dinh" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Is it legal to load them from the riverbed underneath the I-15?
> > >
> > > Just Me \"Koi\" wrote:
> > >
> > > > If all else fails, drive some 40 miles north to my area and pick all
> the
> > > > rocks you want for free!
> > > > My area being Rancho Cucamonga (Alta Loma to be specific. North of
> the
> > > > Ontario Airport.)
> > > >
> > > > You will need 3 or 4 manly men, a heavy duty truck, and some kind of
> > > > implement to move rocks from ground on to your beefy truck!
> > >
> >
> >
>
>