html for newsgroup

[Newbie Bill]

Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going through
usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message apparently
I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond to
an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
Thanxx
Bill Brister

[Dsybok]

Yes their post was in HTML which is a newsgroup no no. I got the same
message when replying. All you need to do is to highlight your text and go
up to format and hit plain text and itll change your post to plain text. You
can simply reply in HTML which I think is the modern way of doing things,
but some people get all uppity if you dont use plain text.

Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and new PC nowadays
anyway?

D
"Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
m...
> Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
through
> usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
apparently
> I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond to
> an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
> change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
> Thanxx
> Bill Brister
>
>

[Benign Vanilla]

"Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
m...
> Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
through
> usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
apparently
> I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond to
> an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
> change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?


Tools...Options...Send Tab. Choose Plain text as your default.

BV.

[Dsybok]

Even if your send tab is set to plain text default, when replying to an HTML
message Outlook will automatically set your text to HTML, you still have to
manually change it to plain text.

D

"Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
> through
> > usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
> apparently
> > I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond
to
> > an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
> > change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
>
>
> Tools...Options...Send Tab. Choose Plain text as your default.
>
> BV.
>
>

[San Diego Joe]

"Newbie Bill" wrote:

> Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going through
> usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message apparently
> I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond to
> an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default?

Many email programs are set to reply in the same manner the original message
was received.

> How do I
> change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
> Thanxx
> Bill Brister
>
>
If you look under "format" or some similar menu item, there will be a
selection that says HTML. Check or un check it based on what you want.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[Newbie Bill]

Thanxx - Simple when you know where to look.
Bill

[cat daddy]

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Even if your send tab is set to plain text default, when replying to an
HTML
> message Outlook will automatically set your text to HTML, you still have
to
> manually change it to plain text.

Tools>Options>Send tab and uncheck the box to reply in the format in
which it was sent.

> "Benign Vanilla" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > > Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
> > through
> > > usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
> > apparently
> > > I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I
respond
> to
> > > an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do
I
> > > change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
> >
> >
> > Tools...Options...Send Tab. Choose Plain text as your default.
> >
> > BV.
> >
> >
>
>

[Susan H. Simko]

Dsybok wrote:
> Yes their post was in HTML which is a newsgroup no no. I got the same
> message when replying. All you need to do is to highlight your text and go
> up to format and hit plain text and itll change your post to plain text. You
> can simply reply in HTML which I think is the modern way of doing things,
> but some people get all uppity if you dont use plain text.

> Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and new PC nowadays
> anyway?

Personally, I'm a web developer/admin who hates html formatted email and
NG posts. For one thing, there are too many malicious things that can
hide in HTML. I just don't see a good reason to use it except for very
select instances. It also makes each piece of email larger and when
one is using a limited access dial up connection, this makes a difference.

As to the comment about high speed access, there are lots of people in
this world still using older computers and dial up. My mom, dad, sister
and best friend all use dial up. They don't use the internet at home
enough to justify the cost of high speed access or can't afford it.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[nswong]

"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...

> Personally, I'm a web developer/admin who hates html formatted email
and
> NG posts. For one thing, there are too many malicious things that
can
> hide in HTML.

I concur.

I'm a software developer now, writing some program for data recovery
and virus killing at year 1988 when I was a computer reparing
technician. Work for an antivirus software vendor as programmer at
1995. Sometime, when I receive email in HTML format or with
attachment, I still got the habit of File>Properties>Details>Message
Source... to view in the raw source, instead open the email directly.

BTW: Susan, do you put those "malicious things" in the webpages you
design? ;-)

> It also makes each piece of email larger and when
> one is using a limited access dial up connection, this makes a
difference.

This not just happen on dial up, but also to broadband. Slow access on
broadband can cause by data communication channel traffic jam, or
gateway server overloaded.

Another issue of HTML are, newsreader tend to display it wrongly when
the message are compose by another newsreader. e.g. Free Agent may
display wrongly the message compose by Outlook Express, or the other
way round. This is due to the Document Type and qirk implemented by
each news client.

Of cource, there is some news client that not even support HTML.

Most of the modarated newsgroup will not accept HTML partly due to it
make the auto modaration with software complicated.

BTW: I'm sorry if I do have some spelling mistake.

Regards,
Wong

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[ajames54]

"Dsybok" > wrote in message et>...
> Yes their post was in HTML which is a newsgroup no no. I got the same
> message when replying. All you need to do is to highlight your text and go
> up to format and hit plain text and itll change your post to plain text. You
> can simply reply in HTML which I think is the modern way of doing things,
> but some people get all uppity if you dont use plain text.
>
> Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and new PC nowadays
> anyway?
>

Further to the earlier post, in addition to the potentially malicious
use of HTML and the bloated size that it entails, it is quite simply
not supported in a number of news and mail readers... in fact IMHO the
best news readers out there DON'T support HTML... (best for filtering,
threading, kill/watch filling, searching at least). In the really good
news readers and (google a bad one) HTML formatted posts show as flat
text.. with all the HTML code as well, making it very hard to read.

[Gail Futoran]

"Dsybok" > wrote
[snip]
> Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and
new PC nowadays
> anyway?

I live in a rural area which doesn't have cable
access and won't for a number of years. That's
true for a lot of people. Not everyone lives in a
suburban or urban area.

As far as a "new PC" goes - are you a PC
salesperson or what? If my "old" PC works
fine for my purposes, can handle the current virus
checker & other critical programs, why in all that's
reasonable should I spend money on a new one?
Just to have a shiny new PC? That makes ZERO
sense.

Gail

[Robyn Rhudy]

On Fri, 16 Jul 2004, Gail Futoran wrote:

> "Dsybok" > wrote
> [snip]
> > Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and
> new PC nowadays
> > anyway?
>
> I live in a rural area which doesn't have cable
> access and won't for a number of years. That's
> true for a lot of people. Not everyone lives in a
> suburban or urban area.
>


I live in what was rural when we moved in 1977 but now is suburban. But,
since we have 5 acre lots, they won't bring cable to us or DSL due to
costs. The new super expensive, poorly built, mini lots of similar houses
near where we live all have cable of course but we can't get it. My
father tried a dish. Once set up, the dish was slower for internet than
dial up! The satellite is either too far away, or the trees are creating
interference. He didn't return it so lost a lot of money. So, satellite
for cable TV or internet won't work either. Luckily, we have semi-fast
internet at work but I have no sound, Java, video, etc. so I can't see all
those movies and things I want to even here! I like to complain! I want
fancy schmancy fast internet!



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[Newbie Bill]

You're right Gail. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My little brother is a
computer programmer at SWTSU. After Win98 was out he was still using 3.1 at
home. Generally as each new operating system comes out it gets bigger, less
efficient and requires more memory, hard drive etc to run it. The only
problem is as time goes by and you have to replace parts they become harder
and more expensive to buy/find. And of course what happens to many is they
just decide they want to try some new 'gadgets'- bigger, higher res monitor,
newer software they really require for productivity, etc. You may find that
if cable modem ever becomes available your downloads are much faster if you
use something newer. What I have frequently done is just upgrade to a
higher technology, but not the most current which sometimes can be had for a
song. But there is frequently a frustrating learning curve, trying to work
out some issue. If you are happy with what you have, till you have to
replace it - don't.
btw - you used to note -'near SA'. I'm actually in Leander but have
relatives from San Marcos to Hondo and in between.
Have Fun!!
Bill Brister - Austin/Leander, Texas

[Dsybok]

Sorry, just my opinion. I always post in plain text because that is what
etiquette demands. I happen to think there are a lot of people who like to
cling to the past and dont realize that things change, and are trying to
keep the usenet stuck in the late 1980s. Thats fine, It doesn't bother me.

You can apply my opinion to posting binaries also. I dont do it, because it
would violate etiquette, but I also dont think that it should matter. I know
all the excuses as to why it shouldnt be done, and I dont buy any of them.
Im sorry if you dont agree, but everyone is entitled to their opinion.

D

"Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
om...
> You're right Gail. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My little brother is
a
> computer programmer at SWTSU. After Win98 was out he was still using 3.1
at
> home. Generally as each new operating system comes out it gets bigger,
less
> efficient and requires more memory, hard drive etc to run it. The only
> problem is as time goes by and you have to replace parts they become
harder
> and more expensive to buy/find. And of course what happens to many is
they
> just decide they want to try some new 'gadgets'- bigger, higher res
monitor,
> newer software they really require for productivity, etc. You may find
that
> if cable modem ever becomes available your downloads are much faster if
you
> use something newer. What I have frequently done is just upgrade to a
> higher technology, but not the most current which sometimes can be had for
a
> song. But there is frequently a frustrating learning curve, trying to
work
> out some issue. If you are happy with what you have, till you have to
> replace it - don't.
> btw - you used to note -'near SA'. I'm actually in Leander but have
> relatives from San Marcos to Hondo and in between.
> Have Fun!!
> Bill Brister - Austin/Leander, Texas
>
>

[Susan H. Simko]

nswong wrote:

> BTW: Susan, do you put those "malicious things" in the webpages you
> design? ;-)

Nope. However, as an admin whose email is all over the place due to the
nature of her work, I receive tons of malignant email and viruses when
ever there's an outbreak. (Usually around 1000 emails an hour. I'm
*not* kidding.) I use, by choice, email software that only has limited
capability to display html. (If I want to see it, I just launch the hml
in a browser.) The good thing about this is that I don't have to worry
about any unpleasant little surprises.

As you may have guessed, I was a programmer at one time so I know how to
write these thing but that's all just part of the process of learning
how they work so one can combat them.

Back to the discussion, I honestly can not see how anyone could not
"buy" the reasons why HTML (and binaries) should not be posted. It
seems to me as if one is bein deliberately blind to a large part of the
real world. I deal with people coming into our websites from all over
the world and all over the US. Fortunately, I live in an area that has
many options for high speed access and work for an employer who is
willing to pay for me to have that access from home. I also have big,
powerful workhorse computers in my office and at home because of the
nature of my work. This may be a necessity for me because of what I do
for a living but it's certainly not for 95% of the people I know.

Yeah, computers may be cheap(er) than they once were but expending $500
for a machine may mean not paying rent/mortgage, buying food, or
something else for a lot of people. According to a broadcast I heard ON
NPR this morning, computers are only in roughly 50% of american homes.
Besides, as someone else said, why buy new if your old one still
works? My dad, a retired nuclear engineer and computer scientist, only
uses his PC for email. He's still using a 300 mhz machine at home. Can
he afford a new one? Sure but why when this one still works. It may be
a little slow but he doesn't care.

And to bring this back around to ponds, if we don't spend the money on
new computers and high speed access, it's more monye we can spend on the
important things in life like our ponds!

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[nswong]

"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...

> Besides, as someone else said, why buy new if your old one still
> works?

I got the current computer at year 2001, with Windows ME, remain as
that to now. Will not get a new one as long as it still can play those
computer games that I want to play. <g>

> And to bring this back around to ponds, if we don't spend the money
on
> new computers and high speed access, it's more monye we can spend on
the
> important things in life like our ponds!

Most of the ponds I'm plan for will for edible freshwater fauna,
included edible frog. But one of it will for goldfish, just for fun.

I'm lurking in this newsgroup to have an idea what option are
available to keep my operation cost down.

Regards,
Wong

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[SVTKate]

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
| Yes their post was in HTML which is a newsgroup no no. I got the same
| message when replying. All you need to do is to highlight your text and go
| up to format and hit plain text and itll change your post to plain text.
You
| can simply reply in HTML which I think is the modern way of doing things,
| but some people get all uppity if you dont use plain text.
|
| Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and new PC nowadays
| anyway?
|

Sadly.. no.
Some of us had to trade our DSL networks for two puters wired up with baling
twine and 44.2 k on a good day.
It really bugs me too.
Like going from my Cobra to an old tin Lizzie.

Kate





| D
| "Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
| m...
| > Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
| through
| > usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
| apparently
| > I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond
to
| > an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
| > change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
| > Thanxx
| > Bill Brister
| >
| >
|
|

[SVTKate]

"nswong" > wrote
*snip*

I still got the habit of File>Properties>Details>Message
| Source... to view in the raw source, instead open the email directly.
|

I do the same thing.
Somehow I still have trouble putting all of my faith into an AV program

Kate




| BTW: Susan, do you put those "malicious things" in the webpages you
| design? ;-)
|
| > It also makes each piece of email larger and when
| > one is using a limited access dial up connection, this makes a
| difference.
|
| This not just happen on dial up, but also to broadband. Slow access on
| broadband can cause by data communication channel traffic jam, or
| gateway server overloaded.
|
| Another issue of HTML are, newsreader tend to display it wrongly when
| the message are compose by another newsreader. e.g. Free Agent may
| display wrongly the message compose by Outlook Express, or the other
| way round. This is due to the Document Type and qirk implemented by
| each news client.
|
| Of cource, there is some news client that not even support HTML.
|
| Most of the modarated newsgroup will not accept HTML partly due to it
| make the auto modaration with software complicated.
|
| BTW: I'm sorry if I do have some spelling mistake.
|
| Regards,
| Wong
|
| --
| Latitude: 06.10N Longitude: 102.17E Altitude: 5m
|
|
|
|
|

[Philip Lewis]

"Susan H. Simko" > writes:
>> BTW: Susan, do you put those "malicious things" in the webpages you
>> design? ;-)
>Nope. However, as an admin whose email is all over the place due to the
>nature of her work, I receive tons of malignant email and viruses when
sucks doesn't it... in addition to being an admin, I run quite a few
mailing lists, each having serveral addresses associated with them
(list-owner, list-request, list-approval, etc) and have has this email
address for a *long* time. I still get tons of spam, but CMU finally
put a filter on it that scans and rejects messages infected with a
virus. I know you're not kidding about the 1000/hr. Fortunately i
read this on a unix box. ;)

Most people don't know about "image email verifiers" that have the
html mail fetch an image name which uniquely identifies the email
address as having being opened, and thus a verified valid email ripe
for more spam.

I'm disappointed with outlook not having some of the outlook express
features.... like "don't respond in original format" and "read only in
plain text".

>Back to the discussion, I honestly can not see how anyone could not
>"buy" the reasons why HTML (and binaries) should not be posted. It
almost as bad as top posting... or posting without editing original
message to minimum. AAAAARGH! drives me batty.

> Besides, as someone else said, why buy new if your old one still
My main home machine is a 400MHZ Pentium II laptop.... it does nearly
everything i need it to do. (it is not great at streaming large video)
I have a few more power machines, but they've been off for a while.
I like the laptop portability. (we *love* our wireless network
connected to our DSL!)


--
be safe.
flip
Ich habe keine Ahnung was das bedeutet, oder vielleicht doch?
Remove origin of the word spam from address to reply (leave "+")

[Gail Futoran]

"Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
om...
> You're right Gail. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. My
little brother is a
> computer programmer at SWTSU. After Win98 was out he was
still using 3.1 at
> home.

We have WIN ME - which BTW doesn't tend
to get attacked as much as XP since it's an
"old" system. :)

Generally as each new operating system comes out it gets
bigger, less
> efficient and requires more memory, hard drive etc to run
it. The only
> problem is as time goes by and you have to replace parts
they become harder
> and more expensive to buy/find. And of course what
happens to many is they
> just decide they want to try some new 'gadgets'- bigger,
higher res monitor,
> newer software they really require for productivity, etc.
You may find that
> if cable modem ever becomes available your downloads are
much faster if you
> use something newer.

Slow downloads of heavy graphic sites is a
problem. I almost didn't put money down on
a new purebred kitty from a breeder in Dallas
because I could never download their very
heavy up-front site! But I persisted. :)

OTOH my most fun on the Internet is these
here newsygroups <g> which don't require
fast download speeds. (I ignore really large
posts, as when someone posts an image.)

What I have frequently done is just upgrade to a
> higher technology, but not the most current which
sometimes can be had for a
> song. But there is frequently a frustrating learning
curve, trying to work
> out some issue.

Yep, that's true.

If you are happy with what you have, till you have to
> replace it - don't.
> btw - you used to note -'near SA'. I'm actually in
Leander but have
> relatives from San Marcos to Hondo and in between.

I'm halfway between Seguin and Universal
City, in an unincorporated part of Guadalupe
county. There seem to be a fair number of
southcentral Texans into ponding. I usually
put "near San Antonio" since most people have
at least heard of it - what is it now, the 9th
largest city in the USA?

> Have Fun!!
> Bill Brister - Austin/Leander, Texas

You too - Gail

[Gail Futoran]

"Dsybok" > wrote in message
ink.net...
> Sorry, just my opinion. I always post in plain text
because that is what
> etiquette demands. I happen to think there are a lot of
people who like to
> cling to the past and dont realize that things change, and
are trying to
> keep the usenet stuck in the late 1980s.

That's insulting {"people who...cling go the past"
"don't realize things change"), but of course it's your
opinion.
[snip]
And this is mine:

plonk

[~ jan JJsPond.us]

That's when you have to learn about networking, course having an ISP that
will work with a home that is networked is a must.

When you live in a home where computer networks are the livelihood and
computers are their hobby, I just don't know how people share a computer. I
don't even like someone sitting in front of mine, to Google something,
because they're too lazy to walk back to theirs. So I'm very spoiled
computer-wise. Now if I only had the money so I could do rec.ponds and
watch TV from a wireless laptop, like my son does his computer work...
;o) ~ jan


>Some of us had to trade our DSL networks for two puters wired up with baling
>twine and 44.2 k on a good day.
>It really bugs me too.
>Like going from my Cobra to an old tin Lizzie.
>
>Kate
>
>
>
>
>
>| D
>| "Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
>| m...
>| > Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
>| through
>| > usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
>| apparently
>| > I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond
>to
>| > an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
>| > change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
>| > Thanxx
>| > Bill Brister
>| >
>| >
>|
>|
>

(Do you know where your water quality is?)

[nswong]

"SVTKate" > wrote in message
.net...

> Somehow I still have trouble putting all of my faith into an AV
program

You are right. New virus come out daily, no AV program can catch all
of them. Personnally, I don't use any AV program. When in doubt, I
just launch Debug.exe for native code virus, WordPad.exe for script
virus.

Regards,
Wong

--
Latitude: 06.10N Longitude: 102.17E Altitude: 5m

[bluegill phil]

If your thinking about raiseing some eating frogs check out ken also
his bluegill are great http://www.kens-fishfarm.com/





On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:53:45 +0800, "nswong" >
wrote:

>"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message
...
>
>> Besides, as someone else said, why buy new if your old one still
>> works?
>
>I got the current computer at year 2001, with Windows ME, remain as
>that to now. Will not get a new one as long as it still can play those
>computer games that I want to play. <g>
>
>> And to bring this back around to ponds, if we don't spend the money
>on
>> new computers and high speed access, it's more monye we can spend on
>the
>> important things in life like our ponds!
>
>Most of the ponds I'm plan for will for edible freshwater fauna,
>included edible frog. But one of it will for goldfish, just for fun.
>
>I'm lurking in this newsgroup to have an idea what option are
>available to keep my operation cost down.
>
>Regards,
>Wong

[nswong]

<bluegill phil> wrote in message
...

> If your thinking about raiseing some eating frogs check out ken also
> his bluegill are great http://www.kens-fishfarm.com/

Thanks for the link, I will take a look later. :-)

Thanks,
Wong

--
Latitude: 06.10N Longitude: 102.17E Altitude: 5m

[Susan H. Simko]

Philip Lewis wrote:

> sucks doesn't it... in addition to being an admin, I run quite a few
> mailing lists, each having serveral addresses associated with them
> (list-owner, list-request, list-approval, etc) and have has this email
> address for a *long* time. I still get tons of spam, but CMU finally
> put a filter on it that scans and rejects messages infected with a
> virus. I know you're not kidding about the 1000/hr. Fortunately i
> read this on a unix box. ;)

Duke has an email scanner sitting in front of their mail servers. Once
the virus files get updated (I usually get a bunch before the virus
eradicators catch up with the the little s#*ts who write the viruses), I
get messages from the scanner sayign ym email has been quarantined.
Same quantity - just no viruses in most of it.

> Most people don't know about "image email verifiers" that have the
> html mail fetch an image name which uniquely identifies the email
> address as having being opened, and thus a verified valid email ripe
> for more spam.

Well, it's used for more than just that and often, by legit businesses,
not to verify a live address for spamming. There, it's used to track
what you have done - whether you have clicked thru embedded links,
opened the email in the first place, etc. My preferred email package,
Mulberry, doesn't permit this. *grin* (Philip - IIRC, Mulberry came
out of CMU originally, I think they recently moved their headquarters to
Baum Boulevard.)

> I'm disappointed with outlook not having some of the outlook express
> features.... like "don't respond in original format" and "read only in
> plain text".

I *hate* any and all forms of Outlook. Almost all of the viruses that
hit the university originate from an Outlook infection and get spread
via unpatched Outlook installations. If you want to contemplate just
how bad an outbreak of a virus can be in a univeristy think of it like a
kindergarten class in a large school where one child comes in with a
cold.....

> My main home machine is a 400MHZ Pentium II laptop.... it does nearly
> everything i need it to do. (it is not great at streaming large video)
> I have a few more power machines, but they've been off for a while.
> I like the laptop portability. (we *love* our wireless network
> connected to our DSL!)

The s.o. uses the laptop on the wireless network at home all the time.
I prefer my desktop system simply because I like having a large monitor.
However, I like to play/surf on the internet with my wireless Palm
Tungsten C. *grin* My laptop with wireless is a 200 mhz and I have ne
desire to upgrade it simply because I can't remember the last time I had
it out of its bag. If I want a workhorse wireless laptop, I "steal" the
s.o.'s.

Susan
shsimko[@]duke[.]edu

[PlainBill]

No. And even if they do, it may not be available.

Case in point: My family went on vacation this past week. My wife
made the hotel reservations and made certain the hotel had dataports
in most rooms - even made sure we got one of those rooms. When I
hooked up my trusty 300 Mhz laptop I discovered their interpretation
of 'Dataport' was limited to 2400 baud. Yes, we complained.

PlainBill

On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 17:01:25 GMT, "Dsybok" >
wrote:

>Yes their post was in HTML which is a newsgroup no no. I got the same
>message when replying. All you need to do is to highlight your text and go
>up to format and hit plain text and itll change your post to plain text. You
>can simply reply in HTML which I think is the modern way of doing things,
>but some people get all uppity if you dont use plain text.
>
>Why. I dont know, doesnt everyone have a cable modem and new PC nowadays
>anyway?
>
>D
>"Newbie Bill" > wrote in message
m...
>> Another computer literacy question. Using Outlook Express and going
>through
>> usenet I just responded to a post. When 'sending' I got message
>apparently
>> I had composed in html. This has never happened before. Did I respond to
>> an html post (Will Koi stop growing) and that was the default? How do I
>> change/check to make sure I am just using text based messages?
>> Thanxx
>> Bill Brister
>>
>>
>

He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression, for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.
-Thomas Paine

[Crashj]

"Susan H. Simko" > wrote in message >...
<>
> I *hate* any and all forms of Outlook. Almost all of the viruses that
> hit the university originate from an Outlook infection and get spread
> via unpatched Outlook installations.
<>
Someone once asked if there was a universal interface for virus and
worms and such. The reply was , "Sure. OE."
--
Crashj