View Full Version : Where to get potassium permanganate, and will it hurt frog eggs?
Pam Gibbs
July 18th 04, 03:10 AM
So where do I get this stuff to treat the platnts? Didn't see anything at
Lowes or Home Depot. The aquarium store maybe?
Got up this morning and found frog eggs all over everything in the kiddy
pool where I put the new plants to quarantine them and pick the snails off.
I saw two little brownish copper colored frogs about the size of the tree
frogs that live in the pecan trees over by the kiddy pool last night--LOUD
little suckers too. Should I just leave the plants alone for now, until
the eggs hatch? Should I go ahead and use the PP? IF I put the plants in
the pond with the eggs still on them will the three Rosy Red minnows eat the
eggs?
Thanks so very much for all the information and help!
Bill Stock
July 18th 04, 03:20 AM
"Pam Gibbs" <gpaktatnetdoordotcom> wrote in message
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> So where do I get this stuff to treat the platnts? Didn't see anything
at
> Lowes or Home Depot. The aquarium store maybe?
>
> Got up this morning and found frog eggs all over everything in the kiddy
> pool where I put the new plants to quarantine them and pick the snails
off.
> I saw two little brownish copper colored frogs about the size of the tree
> frogs that live in the pecan trees over by the kiddy pool last night--LOUD
> little suckers too. Should I just leave the plants alone for now, until
> the eggs hatch? Should I go ahead and use the PP? IF I put the plants in
> the pond with the eggs still on them will the three Rosy Red minnows eat
the
> eggs?
>
> Thanks so very much for all the information and help!
I just bought some on eBay, although not this place as I'm in Canada.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20507&item=4313723121&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
~ jan JJsPond.us
July 18th 04, 07:03 AM
>On Sat, 17 Jul 2004 21:10:16 -0500, "Pam Gibbs" <gpaktatnetdoordotcom> wrote:
>So where do I get this stuff to treat the platnts? Didn't see anything at
>Lowes or Home Depot. The aquarium store maybe?
Pond store or plant nursery that carries pond plants. Supposedly you can
get it from Sears in the water softener supply area, but I've never gone
looking there.
>Got up this morning and found frog eggs all over everything in the kiddy
>pool where I put the new plants to quarantine them and pick the snails off.
Oh dear, well..... if you leave the plants in the fishless kiddy pond,
after awhile it is like quarantine for a new fish, you've cleaned them up
because they've been away from fish. If you PP now, you'll kill the frog
eggs.... now you could move just those plants with eggs to something else,
treat the other plants and detox the PP with H2O2 (Hydrogen Peroxide) if
you throw in a bubbler it will detox it faster and clear the water by the
end of the day, depending on circulation. So that night the frogs can come
back.
As far as I know, I do believe the Rosie Reds will eat, if not the eggs,
the babies that eventually come out of them. ~ jan
(Do you know where your water quality is?)
someone
July 19th 04, 12:41 AM
Pam Gibbs <gpaktatnetdoordotcom> wrote in message
...
> So where do I get this stuff to treat the platnts? Didn't see
anything at
> Lowes or Home Depot. The aquarium store maybe?
>
> Got up this morning and found frog eggs all over everything in the
kiddy
> pool where I put the new plants to quarantine them and pick the snails
off.
> I saw two little brownish copper colored frogs about the size of the
tree
> frogs that live in the pecan trees over by the kiddy pool last
night--LOUD
> little suckers too. Should I just leave the plants alone for now,
until
> the eggs hatch? Should I go ahead and use the PP? IF I put the
plants in
> the pond with the eggs still on them will the three Rosy Red minnows
eat the
> eggs?
>
> Thanks so very much for all the information and help!
>
Surely you're not saying you want to kill off the frogs' eggs? Are you?
Be an organic gardener - don't use that PP!
Hell's bells, I hope not. I would give my eyeteeth to have those frogs
in my garden!
s.
Pam Gibbs
July 19th 04, 03:37 AM
No, I was asking what to treat the plants with before putting them into the
pond. In the meantime I stuck them in a kiddy pool and the frogs found
them. I'm tryihg NOT to kill the frogs.
"someone" > wrote in message
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>
> Pam Gibbs <gpaktatnetdoordotcom> wrote in message
> ...
> > So where do I get this stuff to treat the platnts? Didn't see
> anything at
> > Lowes or Home Depot. The aquarium store maybe?
> >
> > Got up this morning and found frog eggs all over everything in the
> kiddy
> > pool where I put the new plants to quarantine them and pick the snails
> off.
> > I saw two little brownish copper colored frogs about the size of the
> tree
> > frogs that live in the pecan trees over by the kiddy pool last
> night--LOUD
> > little suckers too. Should I just leave the plants alone for now,
> until
> > the eggs hatch? Should I go ahead and use the PP? IF I put the
> plants in
> > the pond with the eggs still on them will the three Rosy Red minnows
> eat the
> > eggs?
> >
> > Thanks so very much for all the information and help!
> >
> Surely you're not saying you want to kill off the frogs' eggs? Are you?
> Be an organic gardener - don't use that PP!
>
> Hell's bells, I hope not. I would give my eyeteeth to have those frogs
> in my garden!
>
> s.
>
>
Newbie Bill
July 19th 04, 07:33 AM
I did get some PP at Sears - 6 oz for $5. 6 oz is about the same price per
oz as ebay after shipping. There was a previous post that said they had
found like 5 lbs for $18 at Tractor Supply Co. It will keep for a very long
time but take forever to use that much, since you are talking only grams per
application, outside of a pond. Remember you are not treating for snails
per se but for bacteria or parasites that you dont want to transfer to your
pond. I dont believe there is any organic way to remove those critters
including 'aging'. If you want to save the frog eggs, I have treated in a 5
gallon pail. Sorry I cant find my notes at the moment but it only requires
a very small amount to treat a 5 gal pail. I believe the dose for plants is
1.5 grams - not much - for about an hour.
Bill Brister - Austin, Texas
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