OK here is the plan for water change, I think?

[Webfoot]

I need to clean my filter and clean the bottom of my pond. After many
beers I came up with a plan. I would like to know if this would work
or do I need more beer to come up with another plan.

1.) I plan on filling a laundry bag with my bio material (scrubbies,
hair curlers, bowling balls whatever the dollar store offers). Then I
will weigh it down and sink it to the bottom of my pond for a spell.
Hopefully this will get the bio bugs working in my bio stuff. Then
clean my filter and put the new bio bug filled media in it. and fill
it with old pond water.

2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
working with the old pond water in it.

3.) sit back and have a beer.

Does this sound like a feasible plan?

Russell Mack

[Newbie Bill]

You left out the part about what you're gonna do with your fish. If there
arent any the bio filter doesnt matter.
Bill Brister - Austin, Texas

[Crashj]

Webfoot > wrote in message >...
> I need to clean my filter and clean the bottom of my pond. After many
> beers I came up with a plan.
<>
> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
> for the chlorine to dispel.
> 3.) "Beer"

I like the way you work. Have you considered the possibility of
filtering out the chlorine when adding the water?
--
Crashj

[Benign Vanilla]

"Webfoot" > wrote in message
...
> I need to clean my filter and clean the bottom of my pond. After many
> beers I came up with a plan. I would like to know if this would work
> or do I need more beer to come up with another plan.
>
> 1.) I plan on filling a laundry bag with my bio material (scrubbies,
> hair curlers, bowling balls whatever the dollar store offers). Then I
> will weigh it down and sink it to the bottom of my pond for a spell.
> Hopefully this will get the bio bugs working in my bio stuff. Then
> clean my filter and put the new bio bug filled media in it. and fill
> it with old pond water.
>
> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
> working with the old pond water in it.
>
> 3.) sit back and have a beer.

1. I don't believe in the full drain and clean concept. I don't see the
point. Drain enough water to do a nice water change and to make work
semi-comfortable, but don't drain it out right.
2. If you have no fish, don't worry about the bio-bugs.
3. Go by some dechlorinator. It's fairly cheap and very much worth it.
4. Get your plants back in immediately.
5. Have two beers, save the other four for re-planting the pond.

BV.

[San Diego Joe]

"Webfoot" wrote:

> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
> working with the old pond water in it.

Your area may use chloramine instead of just chlorine. It takes much longer
to dissipate. I would treat the water.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[RichToyBox]

I would clean the filter one weekend and if I damaged the biobugs, the pond
still has a lot that will attempt to keep the pond safe for the fish. Then
keep tests for ammonia and nitrites and when they are back to zero, then
clean the pond. The filter cannot be disconnected from its food supply,
that is moving water with fish waste, for very long and the biobugs start to
starve, so keep the time of the pond cleaning as short as possible. Then
keep an eye on the ammonia and nitrites to know when you can start feeding
the fish again. A total scrubbing of the pond will remove a very large part
of your total biobugs, where a light cleaning and sludge removal will not
affect the biobugs.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Webfoot" > wrote in message
...
> I need to clean my filter and clean the bottom of my pond. After many
> beers I came up with a plan. I would like to know if this would work
> or do I need more beer to come up with another plan.
>
> 1.) I plan on filling a laundry bag with my bio material (scrubbies,
> hair curlers, bowling balls whatever the dollar store offers). Then I
> will weigh it down and sink it to the bottom of my pond for a spell.
> Hopefully this will get the bio bugs working in my bio stuff. Then
> clean my filter and put the new bio bug filled media in it. and fill
> it with old pond water.
>
> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
> working with the old pond water in it.
>
> 3.) sit back and have a beer.
>
> Does this sound like a feasible plan?
>
> Russell Mack

[RichToyBox]

I would clean the filter one weekend and if I damaged the biobugs, the pond
still has a lot that will attempt to keep the pond safe for the fish. Then
keep tests for ammonia and nitrites and when they are back to zero, then
clean the pond. The filter cannot be disconnected from its food supply,
that is moving water with fish waste, for very long and the biobugs start to
starve, so keep the time of the pond cleaning as short as possible. Then
keep an eye on the ammonia and nitrites to know when you can start feeding
the fish again. A total scrubbing of the pond will remove a very large part
of your total biobugs, where a light cleaning and sludge removal will not
affect the biobugs.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"Webfoot" > wrote in message
...
> I need to clean my filter and clean the bottom of my pond. After many
> beers I came up with a plan. I would like to know if this would work
> or do I need more beer to come up with another plan.
>
> 1.) I plan on filling a laundry bag with my bio material (scrubbies,
> hair curlers, bowling balls whatever the dollar store offers). Then I
> will weigh it down and sink it to the bottom of my pond for a spell.
> Hopefully this will get the bio bugs working in my bio stuff. Then
> clean my filter and put the new bio bug filled media in it. and fill
> it with old pond water.
>
> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
> working with the old pond water in it.
>
> 3.) sit back and have a beer.
>
> Does this sound like a feasible plan?
>
> Russell Mack

[Webfoot]

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:13:36 GMT, "Newbie Bill"
> wrote:

>You left out the part about what you're gonna do with your fish.

The fish will have to find their own beer.

Russell Mack

[Webfoot]

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:13:36 GMT, "Newbie Bill"
> wrote:

>You left out the part about what you're gonna do with your fish.

The fish will have to find their own beer.

Russell Mack

[Mike Patterson]

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:43:28 -0700, San Diego Joe >
wrote:

>"Webfoot" wrote:
>
>> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
>> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
>> working with the old pond water in it.
>
>Your area may use chloramine instead of just chlorine. It takes much longer
>to dissipate. I would treat the water.
>
>
>San Diego Joe
>4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
>
>
>
My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
evaporates.

Mike

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[Mike Patterson]

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:43:28 -0700, San Diego Joe >
wrote:

>"Webfoot" wrote:
>
>> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
>> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
>> working with the old pond water in it.
>
>Your area may use chloramine instead of just chlorine. It takes much longer
>to dissipate. I would treat the water.
>
>
>San Diego Joe
>4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
>
>
>
My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
evaporates.

Mike

Mike Patterson
Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
"I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

[San Diego Joe]

"Mike Patterson" wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:43:28 -0700, San Diego Joe >
> wrote:
>
>> "Webfoot" wrote:
>>
>>> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
>>> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
>>> working with the old pond water in it.
>>
>> Your area may use chloramine instead of just chlorine. It takes much longer
>> to dissipate. I would treat the water.
>>
>>
>> San Diego Joe
>> 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>> Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
>>
>>
>>
> My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
> evaporates.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
> "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

Right you are Mike,

That's the assumption I work from as well.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[San Diego Joe]

"Mike Patterson" wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:43:28 -0700, San Diego Joe >
> wrote:
>
>> "Webfoot" wrote:
>>
>>> 2.) Next drain the pond, clean and fill from the hose. Wait 2 days
>>> for the chlorine to dispel. Turn on my pump to start my filter
>>> working with the old pond water in it.
>>
>> Your area may use chloramine instead of just chlorine. It takes much longer
>> to dissipate. I would treat the water.
>>
>>
>> San Diego Joe
>> 4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
>> Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
>>
>>
>>
> My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
> evaporates.
>
> Mike
>
> Mike Patterson
> Please remove the spamtrap to email me.
> "I always wanted to be somebody. I should have been more specific..."

Right you are Mike,

That's the assumption I work from as well.


San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.



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[Benign Vanilla]

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
> evaporates.
<snip>

Chloramine is unstable and will eventually break down, but I agree, the best
rule of thumb is to treat it as if it won't. Better to be safe then sorry.

Here is a great PDF on chloramine,
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_6.pdf. BTW, I'll be adding
this to iheartmypond.com as well.

BV.

[Benign Vanilla]

"Mike Patterson" > wrote in message
...
<snip>
> My understanding is that for our purposes chloramine -never-
> evaporates.
<snip>

Chloramine is unstable and will eventually break down, but I agree, the best
rule of thumb is to treat it as if it won't. Better to be safe then sorry.

Here is a great PDF on chloramine,
http://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_6.pdf. BTW, I'll be adding
this to iheartmypond.com as well.

BV.