Transporting Koi

[ciel]

Hi All

I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.

I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
oxygen?
I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the temp
may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)

OR
Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc from
cigar lighter ?

The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins without
oxygen etc..

ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!

Many thanks

[Karen Mullen]

Hi,

I brought my koi and goldfish and one angelfish up from Texas to Ohio in a
cooler with 2 airstone in each cooler, we did water changes every 8 hours,
changed the batteries once and they all came thru just fine. They are hardier
than we think.

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention

[Karen Mullen]

Hi,

I brought my koi and goldfish and one angelfish up from Texas to Ohio in a
cooler with 2 airstone in each cooler, we did water changes every 8 hours,
changed the batteries once and they all came thru just fine. They are hardier
than we think.

Karen
Zone 5
Ashland, OH
http://hometown.aol.com/kmam1/MyPond/MyPond.html
My Art Studio at
http://members.aol.com/kmmstudios/K.M.Studios/K.M.Studios.html
for email remove the extra extention

[Shanda]

"ciel" > wrote in message >...
> Hi All
>
> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>
> I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> oxygen?
> I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the temp
> may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>
> OR
> Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc from
> cigar lighter ?
>
> The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins without
> oxygen etc..
>
> ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>
> Many thanks


Check a local pet store for a battery operated pump,,, usually runs
on 2 or 3 "D" batteries. I've never used one but I would think it
should be fine for that amount of time. Online pet supply houses have
them for about $10.00

Good luck,
Shanda

[Shanda]

"ciel" > wrote in message >...
> Hi All
>
> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>
> I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> oxygen?
> I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the temp
> may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>
> OR
> Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc from
> cigar lighter ?
>
> The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins without
> oxygen etc..
>
> ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>
> Many thanks


Check a local pet store for a battery operated pump,,, usually runs
on 2 or 3 "D" batteries. I've never used one but I would think it
should be fine for that amount of time. Online pet supply houses have
them for about $10.00

Good luck,
Shanda

[Crashj]

"ciel" > wrote in message >...
> Hi All
>
> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.

Funny you should mention. Don't you mean, 1 to 1-1/2 hours, not just
over 11 hours? [/humour] When TMI tried to blow up, my [ex]wife ran
off upstate. She came back with her cousin's Oscar in a cooler as a
peace offering. She made one of the kids sit with the cooler in their
lap the whole way back, blowing into the bucket with a piece of hose
and an airstone. Sheesh.
IIR, from CPR training, the air you breathe out has practically just
as much oxygen as what you breathe in, within about 1/4 of the
available oxygen, so that was okay. Get an aquarium pump and a plug in
inverter if you need to pump air. Breathing it in makes for bad acidic
water, however.

The other tip on moving fish is to use plastic trash cans [cheap] and
be sure they are very full and well covered to prevent sloshing. Yes,
sounds wrong, but it is good physics and works. Found this in
rec.aquariums years ago.

"Have a good trip"
--
Crashj

[Crashj]

"ciel" > wrote in message >...
> Hi All
>
> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.

Funny you should mention. Don't you mean, 1 to 1-1/2 hours, not just
over 11 hours? [/humour] When TMI tried to blow up, my [ex]wife ran
off upstate. She came back with her cousin's Oscar in a cooler as a
peace offering. She made one of the kids sit with the cooler in their
lap the whole way back, blowing into the bucket with a piece of hose
and an airstone. Sheesh.
IIR, from CPR training, the air you breathe out has practically just
as much oxygen as what you breathe in, within about 1/4 of the
available oxygen, so that was okay. Get an aquarium pump and a plug in
inverter if you need to pump air. Breathing it in makes for bad acidic
water, however.

The other tip on moving fish is to use plastic trash cans [cheap] and
be sure they are very full and well covered to prevent sloshing. Yes,
sounds wrong, but it is good physics and works. Found this in
rec.aquariums years ago.

"Have a good trip"
--
Crashj

[[email protected]]

http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH

"ciel" > wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>
>I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>oxygen?
>I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the temp
>may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>
>OR
>Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc from
>cigar lighter ?
>
>The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins without
>oxygen etc..
>
>ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>
>Many thanks
>
>
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

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http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH

"ciel" > wrote:

>Hi All
>
>I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>
>I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>oxygen?
>I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the temp
>may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>
>OR
>Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc from
>cigar lighter ?
>
>The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins without
>oxygen etc..
>
>ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>
>Many thanks
>
>
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[ciel]

OK NOW I'm Worried


the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........

Is This correct?

Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
likely to do damage

I'm confused!!

I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
travelling..am I being paranoid?

Help!!





> wrote in message
...
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>
> "ciel" > wrote:
>
> >Hi All
> >
> >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
> >
> >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> >oxygen?
> >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
temp
> >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
> >
> >OR
> >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
from
> >cigar lighter ?
> >
> >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
without
> >oxygen etc..
> >
> >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[ciel]

OK NOW I'm Worried


the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........

Is This correct?

Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
likely to do damage

I'm confused!!

I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
travelling..am I being paranoid?

Help!!





> wrote in message
...
> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>
> "ciel" > wrote:
>
> >Hi All
> >
> >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
> >
> >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> >oxygen?
> >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
temp
> >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
> >
> >OR
> >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
from
> >cigar lighter ?
> >
> >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
without
> >oxygen etc..
> >
> >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
> >
> >Many thanks
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> www.drsolo.com
> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> endorsements or recommendations I make.

[RichToyBox]

If the fish are bagged as covered in the instructions, the water becomes
very acid from all the CO2, and this is good since it makes the ammonia
non-toxic. Opening the bag allows the CO2 to blow off fairly quickly,
making the ammonia really toxic. Mixing the new water with the bag water
raises the pH and makes the ammonia toxic. Float the sealed bag to allow
the pond water and the bag water to stabilize somewhat for temperature and
then transfer as soon as the bag is opened. If teh fish are transported in
a large rubbermaid with air stone, then the water does not have a chance to
go acid, and you should make sure that you put in an ample amount of Amquel
or other ammonia binding chemical. In this case the fish can be acclimated
to the new pond water by adding pond water to the rubbermaid and then
tossing some water from the rubbermaid. Do not add the bag water or the
rubbermaid tub water to the pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"ciel" > wrote in message
. uk...
> OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
> the article
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
> transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
>
> Is This correct?
>
> Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
> likely to do damage
>
> I'm confused!!
>
> I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
> travelling..am I being paranoid?
>
> Help!!
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> >
> > "ciel" > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi All
> > >
> > >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
> > >
> > >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> > >oxygen?
> > >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
> temp
> > >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
> > >
> > >OR
> > >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
> from
> > >cigar lighter ?
> > >
> > >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
> without
> > >oxygen etc..
> > >
> > >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
> > >
> > >Many thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> > http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> > www.drsolo.com
> > Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> > endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>

[RichToyBox]

If the fish are bagged as covered in the instructions, the water becomes
very acid from all the CO2, and this is good since it makes the ammonia
non-toxic. Opening the bag allows the CO2 to blow off fairly quickly,
making the ammonia really toxic. Mixing the new water with the bag water
raises the pH and makes the ammonia toxic. Float the sealed bag to allow
the pond water and the bag water to stabilize somewhat for temperature and
then transfer as soon as the bag is opened. If teh fish are transported in
a large rubbermaid with air stone, then the water does not have a chance to
go acid, and you should make sure that you put in an ample amount of Amquel
or other ammonia binding chemical. In this case the fish can be acclimated
to the new pond water by adding pond water to the rubbermaid and then
tossing some water from the rubbermaid. Do not add the bag water or the
rubbermaid tub water to the pond.
--
RichToyBox
http://www.geocities.com/richtoybox/pondintro.html
"ciel" > wrote in message
. uk...
> OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
> the article
http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
> transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
>
> Is This correct?
>
> Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
> likely to do damage
>
> I'm confused!!
>
> I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
> travelling..am I being paranoid?
>
> Help!!
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> >
> > "ciel" > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi All
> > >
> > >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
> > >
> > >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
> > >oxygen?
> > >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
> temp
> > >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
> > >
> > >OR
> > >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
> from
> > >cigar lighter ?
> > >
> > >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
> without
> > >oxygen etc..
> > >
> > >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
> > >
> > >Many thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
> > http://puregold.aquaria.net/
> > www.drsolo.com
> > Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
> > compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
> > endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>

[AngieB]

This one says TO float the bag.
http://www.koicarp.net/beginners_corner/buying_koi.html

Now you can be thoroughly confused!!!

I know I am.

Angie

On 7/23/04 7:31 PM, in article
, "ciel"
> wrote:

> OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
> the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
> transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
>
> Is This correct?
>
> Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
> likely to do damage
>
> I'm confused!!
>
> I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
> travelling..am I being paranoid?
>
> Help!!
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>>
>> "ciel" > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>>>
>>> I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>>> oxygen?
>>> I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
> temp
>>> may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>>>
>>> OR
>>> Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
> from
>>> cigar lighter ?
>>>
>>> The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
> without
>>> oxygen etc..
>>>
>>> ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>

[AngieB]

This one says TO float the bag.
http://www.koicarp.net/beginners_corner/buying_koi.html

Now you can be thoroughly confused!!!

I know I am.

Angie

On 7/23/04 7:31 PM, in article
, "ciel"
> wrote:

> OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
> the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
> says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
> transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
>
> Is This correct?
>
> Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
> likely to do damage
>
> I'm confused!!
>
> I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
> travelling..am I being paranoid?
>
> Help!!
>
>
>
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>>
>> "ciel" > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>>>
>>> I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>>> oxygen?
>>> I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
> temp
>>> may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>>>
>>> OR
>>> Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
> from
>>> cigar lighter ?
>>>
>>> The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
> without
>>> oxygen etc..
>>>
>>> ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>>>
>>> Many thanks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>
>

[[email protected]]

what he says..........

"RichToyBox" > wrote:

>If the fish are bagged as covered in the instructions, the water becomes
>very acid from all the CO2, and this is good since it makes the ammonia
>non-toxic. Opening the bag allows the CO2 to blow off fairly quickly,
>making the ammonia really toxic. Mixing the new water with the bag water
>raises the pH and makes the ammonia toxic. Float the sealed bag to allow
>the pond water and the bag water to stabilize somewhat for temperature and
>then transfer as soon as the bag is opened. If teh fish are transported in
>a large rubbermaid with air stone, then the water does not have a chance to
>go acid, and you should make sure that you put in an ample amount of Amquel
>or other ammonia binding chemical. In this case the fish can be acclimated
>to the new pond water by adding pond water to the rubbermaid and then
>tossing some water from the rubbermaid. Do not add the bag water or the
>rubbermaid tub water to the pond.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

what he says..........

"RichToyBox" > wrote:

>If the fish are bagged as covered in the instructions, the water becomes
>very acid from all the CO2, and this is good since it makes the ammonia
>non-toxic. Opening the bag allows the CO2 to blow off fairly quickly,
>making the ammonia really toxic. Mixing the new water with the bag water
>raises the pH and makes the ammonia toxic. Float the sealed bag to allow
>the pond water and the bag water to stabilize somewhat for temperature and
>then transfer as soon as the bag is opened. If teh fish are transported in
>a large rubbermaid with air stone, then the water does not have a chance to
>go acid, and you should make sure that you put in an ample amount of Amquel
>or other ammonia binding chemical. In this case the fish can be acclimated
>to the new pond water by adding pond water to the rubbermaid and then
>tossing some water from the rubbermaid. Do not add the bag water or the
>rubbermaid tub water to the pond.



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

unless there is a drastic change in temp dont worry. most fish when shipped are iced
and if they go into warmer water no problem. it is dumping em into ice water that is
a problem
most fish can take pH swings up to 7 or down to 7.
Ingrid

"ciel" > wrote:

>OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
>the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
>transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
>
>Is This correct?
>
>Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
>likely to do damage
>
>I'm confused!!
>
>I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
>travelling..am I being paranoid?
>
>Help!!
>
>
>
>
>
> wrote in message
...
>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>>
>> "ciel" > wrote:
>>
>> >Hi All
>> >
>> >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>> >
>> >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>> >oxygen?
>> >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
>temp
>> >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>> >
>> >OR
>> >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
>from
>> >cigar lighter ?
>> >
>> >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
>without
>> >oxygen etc..
>> >
>> >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>> >
>> >Many thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
>> http://puregold.aquaria.net/
>> www.drsolo.com
>> Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
>> compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
>> endorsements or recommendations I make.
>



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[[email protected]]

unless there is a drastic change in temp dont worry. most fish when shipped are iced
and if they go into warmer water no problem. it is dumping em into ice water that is
a problem
most fish can take pH swings up to 7 or down to 7.
Ingrid

"ciel" > wrote:

>OK NOW I'm Worried
>
>
>the article http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
>says NOT to float and introduce my pond water gradually after
>transportation, as it will "fry" the fishes gills..........
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>Is This correct?
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>Surely just transferring fish from one type of water to another is MORE
>likely to do damage
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>I'm confused!!
>
>I gotta collect the fish Monday........4x 12" KOI 1 to1-1/2 hours
>travelling..am I being paranoid?
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>Help!!
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> wrote in message
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>> http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/care/care3.htm#MOVING_FISH
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>> "ciel" > wrote:
>>
>> >Hi All
>> >
>> >I am about to transport 4x 12" Koi approx 1-11/2 hours in a car.
>> >
>> >I have plenty of bags and or containers for the job....but will I need
>> >oxygen?
>> >I could use Ice to cool the containers and slow metabolisms etc. as the
>temp
>> >may get high (25c +)SE England (wishful thinking !!)
>> >
>> >OR
>> >Does anyone know of local supplier of cheap airpumps to run a stone etc
>from
>> >cigar lighter ?
>> >
>> >The longest journey I've ever attempted was with 6" koi for 30mins
>without
>> >oxygen etc..
>> >
>> >ANY and ALL advice welcome!!!
>> >
>> >Many thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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