Raccoon problem

[Scott M.]

I have just put in a beautiful Koi/goldfish pond and I'm sure that I have
lost several fish to a raccoon. Would a motion sensor that activates a
couple of spotlights scare them off or at least make it too hard to see into
the water because of glare or is there a better way.

Thank you,

Scott

[Scott M.]

Sorry for the multiple posts, but Outlook Express kept telling me that the
message could not be sent for some reason.

Scott

[dkat]

If I go to outbox and then send it sometimes eliminates this problem.

Now on to the real issue - what is the shape of your pond? Raccoons can't
fish in a pond that has sides that go straight down... Kingfishers on the
other hand will happily scoop up a fish the moment the fish comes to the
surface. Herons are also more adapt at getting at fish. Are you sure your
fish are gone? Fish if bothered by a predator will hide out for some time.
Even though raccoons can't get to my fish unless the fish swim up to them,
they can do their best to do so. I can tell a raccoon has been around
because my fish are in hiding and the lily pads that were within reach of
the edge of the pond have been ripped apart. I have been surprised at how
well and for how long they can hide out. Unless your pond is crystal clear
and there is no shelter for them I would not give up on them yet... speaking
of which - another good thing you can do for your fish is to give them caves
to hide in. As I said, I have my sides going straight down. To have my
plants close enough to the surface I put storage crates upside down (these
are the ones you get that are stackable and have one side lower than the
other three...). Fish swim in and hide when threatened and it works nicely.
"Scott M." > wrote in message
...
> Sorry for the multiple posts, but Outlook Express kept telling me that the
> message could not be sent for some reason.
>
> Scott
>
>

[Scott M.]

My pond is 15 x 9 feet, sloping down to 3.5 feet deep. It has a plant ledge
around most of it with planst in baskets on the ledge. In the deepest
section, I have piled several large flat rocks to make a vertical column to
hold the fountain pump and to give the fish rocky ledges to hide under. The
reason I think raccoons are getting some fish is because some are missing
and some mornings I find some of the potted plants turned over. The water is
crystal clear, but I admit that there are many hiding places for the fish.

"dkat" > wrote in message
et...
> If I go to outbox and then send it sometimes eliminates this problem.
>
> Now on to the real issue - what is the shape of your pond? Raccoons can't
> fish in a pond that has sides that go straight down... Kingfishers on the
> other hand will happily scoop up a fish the moment the fish comes to the
> surface. Herons are also more adapt at getting at fish. Are you sure
your
> fish are gone? Fish if bothered by a predator will hide out for some
time.
> Even though raccoons can't get to my fish unless the fish swim up to them,
> they can do their best to do so. I can tell a raccoon has been around
> because my fish are in hiding and the lily pads that were within reach of
> the edge of the pond have been ripped apart. I have been surprised at how
> well and for how long they can hide out. Unless your pond is crystal
clear
> and there is no shelter for them I would not give up on them yet...
speaking
> of which - another good thing you can do for your fish is to give them
caves
> to hide in. As I said, I have my sides going straight down. To have my
> plants close enough to the surface I put storage crates upside down (these
> are the ones you get that are stackable and have one side lower than the
> other three...). Fish swim in and hide when threatened and it works
nicely.
> "Scott M." > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sorry for the multiple posts, but Outlook Express kept telling me that
the
> > message could not be sent for some reason.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
>
>

[dkat]

Some people use electric fences to keep out raccoons.... If you go to
ponds.rec and do a search you will find many, many posts on the subject.
The only solution that I have known to work is the one I mentioned but that
has to be done at the creation of the pond (I suppose you could do an inner
circle of tall rock ... a pond within a pond)..


"Scott M." > wrote in message
...
> My pond is 15 x 9 feet, sloping down to 3.5 feet deep. It has a plant
ledge
> around most of it with planst in baskets on the ledge. In the deepest
> section, I have piled several large flat rocks to make a vertical column
to
> hold the fountain pump and to give the fish rocky ledges to hide under.
The
> reason I think raccoons are getting some fish is because some are missing
> and some mornings I find some of the potted plants turned over. The water
is
> crystal clear, but I admit that there are many hiding places for the fish.
>
> "dkat" > wrote in message
> et...
> > If I go to outbox and then send it sometimes eliminates this problem.
> >
> > Now on to the real issue - what is the shape of your pond? Raccoons
can't
> > fish in a pond that has sides that go straight down... Kingfishers on
the
> > other hand will happily scoop up a fish the moment the fish comes to the
> > surface. Herons are also more adapt at getting at fish. Are you sure
> your
> > fish are gone? Fish if bothered by a predator will hide out for some
> time.
> > Even though raccoons can't get to my fish unless the fish swim up to
them,
> > they can do their best to do so. I can tell a raccoon has been around
> > because my fish are in hiding and the lily pads that were within reach
of
> > the edge of the pond have been ripped apart. I have been surprised at
how
> > well and for how long they can hide out. Unless your pond is crystal
> clear
> > and there is no shelter for them I would not give up on them yet...
> speaking
> > of which - another good thing you can do for your fish is to give them
> caves
> > to hide in. As I said, I have my sides going straight down. To have my
> > plants close enough to the surface I put storage crates upside down
(these
> > are the ones you get that are stackable and have one side lower than
the
> > other three...). Fish swim in and hide when threatened and it works
> nicely.
> > "Scott M." > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Sorry for the multiple posts, but Outlook Express kept telling me that
> the
> > > message could not be sent for some reason.
> > >
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Rick]

Yes, then shoot the little thiefs!

Scott M. wrote:

> I have just put in a beautiful Koi/goldfish pond and I'm sure that I have
> lost several fish to a raccoon. Would a motion sensor that activates a
> couple of spotlights scare them off or at least make it too hard to see into
> the water because of glare or is there a better way.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Scott
>
>

[Norm]

When I had my pond in Florida, it was a constant nuisance. I finally beat
them --- I covered the pond each night --- juts be sure to anchor it down
with rocks heavy enough so that the racs can't lift them out of the way,
lift your cover, and eat dinner. They are very clever and resourceful.

Norm


"dkat" > wrote in message
...
> Some people use electric fences to keep out raccoons.... If you go to
> ponds.rec and do a search you will find many, many posts on the subject.
> The only solution that I have known to work is the one I mentioned but
that
> has to be done at the creation of the pond (I suppose you could do an
inner
> circle of tall rock ... a pond within a pond)..
>
>
> "Scott M." > wrote in message
> ...
> > My pond is 15 x 9 feet, sloping down to 3.5 feet deep. It has a plant
> ledge
> > around most of it with planst in baskets on the ledge. In the deepest
> > section, I have piled several large flat rocks to make a vertical column
> to
> > hold the fountain pump and to give the fish rocky ledges to hide under.
> The
> > reason I think raccoons are getting some fish is because some are
missing
> > and some mornings I find some of the potted plants turned over. The
water
> is
> > crystal clear, but I admit that there are many hiding places for the
fish.
> >
> > "dkat" > wrote in message
> > et...
> > > If I go to outbox and then send it sometimes eliminates this problem.
> > >
> > > Now on to the real issue - what is the shape of your pond? Raccoons
> can't
> > > fish in a pond that has sides that go straight down... Kingfishers on
> the
> > > other hand will happily scoop up a fish the moment the fish comes to
the
> > > surface. Herons are also more adapt at getting at fish. Are you sure
> > your
> > > fish are gone? Fish if bothered by a predator will hide out for some
> > time.
> > > Even though raccoons can't get to my fish unless the fish swim up to
> them,
> > > they can do their best to do so. I can tell a raccoon has been around
> > > because my fish are in hiding and the lily pads that were within reach
> of
> > > the edge of the pond have been ripped apart. I have been surprised at
> how
> > > well and for how long they can hide out. Unless your pond is crystal
> > clear
> > > and there is no shelter for them I would not give up on them yet...
> > speaking
> > > of which - another good thing you can do for your fish is to give them
> > caves
> > > to hide in. As I said, I have my sides going straight down. To have
my
> > > plants close enough to the surface I put storage crates upside down
> (these
> > > are the ones you get that are stackable and have one side lower than
> the
> > > other three...). Fish swim in and hide when threatened and it works
> > nicely.
> > > "Scott M." > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Sorry for the multiple posts, but Outlook Express kept telling me
that
> > the
> > > > message could not be sent for some reason.
> > > >
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>