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Mogweed
July 12th 04, 04:23 PM
We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running 24/7
since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many plants
at the moment as a friend said he would give us lots but he is off work sick
at the moment, but there are 4 oxygenators under the surface as well as what
you can see.

We had a terrible problem with blanketweed and someone recommended a
barleystraw bale which worked a treat and has been in there for about two
months. As the soapy water only appeared about a week ago I don't think it
can be down to that. And I also think it's extremely unlikely that anyone
has put detergent in there, so just what can be causing this and how do I
get rid of it?

To see what I mean, have a look here:
http://www.btinternet.com/~herbie/pond.htm

Cheers,

Herbie.

dkat
July 12th 04, 11:53 PM
Has there been any dirt that may have gotten into the pond (local
construction, run off from yard work, etc)? Dirt will make foam.


"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
> We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running 24/7
> since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
plants
> at the moment as a friend said he would give us lots but he is off work
sick
> at the moment, but there are 4 oxygenators under the surface as well as
what
> you can see.
>
> We had a terrible problem with blanketweed and someone recommended a
> barleystraw bale which worked a treat and has been in there for about two
> months. As the soapy water only appeared about a week ago I don't think it
> can be down to that. And I also think it's extremely unlikely that anyone
> has put detergent in there, so just what can be causing this and how do I
> get rid of it?
>
> To see what I mean, have a look here:
> http://www.btinternet.com/~herbie/pond.htm
>
> Cheers,
>
> Herbie.
>
>

Mogweed
July 13th 04, 09:27 AM
"dkat" > wrote in message
...
> Has there been any dirt that may have gotten into the pond (local
> construction, run off from yard work, etc)? Dirt will make foam.
>
>
> "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
24/7
> > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> plants
> > at the moment as a friend said he would give us lots but he is off work
> sick
> > at the moment, but there are 4 oxygenators under the surface as well as
> what
> > you can see.
> >
> > We had a terrible problem with blanketweed and someone recommended a
> > barleystraw bale which worked a treat and has been in there for about
two
> > months. As the soapy water only appeared about a week ago I don't think
it
> > can be down to that. And I also think it's extremely unlikely that
anyone
> > has put detergent in there, so just what can be causing this and how do
I
> > get rid of it?
> >
> > To see what I mean, have a look here:
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~herbie/pond.htm
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Herbie.
> >

No, there's been no work done for about 3 months. We've had a lot of rain
recently, and wind as well, which has blown leaves in but I've been scooping
them out every day. Thanks anyway dkat.

Herbie.

Oxymel_of_Squill
July 14th 04, 12:15 PM
does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?


"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
> We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running 24/7
> since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
plants

Mogweed
July 14th 04, 12:36 PM
"Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
...
> does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
>
>
> "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> ...
> > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
24/7
> > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> plants
>
>
No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is that
we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
cleared daily.

Herbie.

Alan
July 14th 04, 02:57 PM
If its any help I have soapy bubbles on my pond too I'm in Southwick on
southcoast (near Brighton) but fish and plants don't seem to mind
Alan

"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> >
> >
> > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
> 24/7
> > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> > plants
> >
> >
> No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
that
> we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> cleared daily.
>
> Herbie.
>
>

Jim Carlock
July 14th 04, 03:04 PM
Have you used any tar inside of it? Tar will produce a soapy
looking sudsy type that comes to the surface of the water
after a period of time. I imagine that other substances can
cause the same. Stones tend to be porous, so if you've
washed a stoney area with detergent, that could be the
cause. Maybe the stones around the pond contain some
kind of what not. When you said soapy, I was thinking
sudsy, but perhaps you should get the pH of the water
and see if it's an alkaline based thing ?

Just throwing ideas up.

http://www.btinternet.com/~herbie/pond.htm

--
Jim Carlock
http://www.911forthetruth.com/
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dkat
July 14th 04, 03:20 PM
You can't scoop out the dirt that causes foam. The sea foam you see on
beaches is from dirt (clay particles).

"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> >
> >
> > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
> 24/7
> > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> > plants
> >
> >
> No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
that
> we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> cleared daily.
>
> Herbie.
>
>

dkat
July 14th 04, 03:23 PM
Meant to say that it should soon just settle to the bottom and stop foaming
if it is dirt particles... unless you have a really disruptive flow of water
from you pump...


"dkat" > wrote in message
et...
> You can't scoop out the dirt that causes foam. The sea foam you see on
> beaches is from dirt (clay particles).
>
> "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been
running
> > 24/7
> > > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't
many
> > > plants
> > >
> > >
> > No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> > bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> > group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> > going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
> that
> > we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> > anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> > cleared daily.
> >
> > Herbie.
> >
> >
>
>

Alan
July 14th 04, 04:02 PM
If its any help I have soapy bubbles on my pond too from waterfall I'm in
Southwick on
southcoast (near Brighton) but fish and plants don't seem to mind
Alan

"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> >
> >
> > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
> 24/7
> > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> > plants
> >
> >
> No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
that
> we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> cleared daily.
>
> Herbie.
>
>

Mogweed
July 14th 04, 05:52 PM
"Alan" > wrote in message
...
> If its any help I have soapy bubbles on my pond too from waterfall I'm in
> Southwick on
> southcoast (near Brighton) but fish and plants don't seem to mind
> Alan
>
> "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been
running
> > 24/7
> > > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't
many
> > > plants
> > >
> > >
> > No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> > bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> > group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> > going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
> that
> > we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> > anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> > cleared daily.
> >
> > Herbie.
> >
> >
Thanks everyone for your replies. Plenty to think about - just got to get
time to do something about it now :o)

Herbie.

how
July 14th 04, 08:31 PM
"dkat" > wrote in message
et...
> Meant to say that it should soon just settle to the bottom and stop
foaming
> if it is dirt particles... unless you have a really disruptive flow of
water
> from you pump...
>
> > > > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been
> running

Hi,
You got 'doc' dissolved organic compounds and this could be from any or all
the things suggested by other posters.
http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/filtration/koi2organics.htm
HTH -_- how
no NEWS is good

IAN GARDNER
July 20th 04, 04:33 PM
"Mogweed" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Oxymel_of_Squill" > wrote in message
> ...
> > does it feel soapy? Is it slimey?
> >
> >
> > "Mogweed" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running
> 24/7
> > > since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
> > plants
> >
> >
> No, it doesn't feel soapy or slimey. A couple of people reckon it may be
> bacterial and have recommended a water change and another poster in this
> group (dkat) thought it may be caused by dirt, such as construction work
> going on or runoff from the garden. The only thing along those lines is
that
> we've had a lot of rain and wind which has dumped stuff in the pond but
> anything big enough to scoop out with a net such as leaves, have been
> cleared daily.
>
> Herbie.
>
>

Don`t worry about it. Most of us get it. It`s all the breakdowns of plants
etc. I have it all the time. There may be ways of stopping it but I don`t
know of any!

--
IAN. P. GARDNER
ISLE OF WIGHT
www.gardner44.freeserve.co.uk

Richard Brandstetter
July 25th 04, 02:36 AM
in the fall Holly berrys fall in to my 100 gal pond and I did think there
soap in the pond but its the berrys and if i donot get the fish out they
dead..this has not happen befor 3 years ago .
Rich Brandstetter

Mogweed wrote in message ...
>We seem to have developed soapy water. The waterfall has been running 24/7
>since December and we have no fish in the pond yet. There aren't many
plants
>at the moment as a friend said he would give us lots but he is off work
sick
>at the moment, but there are 4 oxygenators under the surface as well as
what
>you can see.
>
>We had a terrible problem with blanketweed and someone recommended a
>barleystraw bale which worked a treat and has been in there for about two
>months. As the soapy water only appeared about a week ago I don't think it
>can be down to that. And I also think it's extremely unlikely that anyone
>has put detergent in there, so just what can be causing this and how do I
>get rid of it?
>
>To see what I mean, have a look here:
>http://www.btinternet.com/~herbie/pond.htm
>
>Cheers,
>
>Herbie.
>
>