I'm a Daddy twice and missed the births!

[Timothy Tom]

I went away two weeks and when I got back this Monday I noticed that
my rose anenome had split. Today I was moving one of my live rocks,
and I find another rose anenome. Two splits in two weeks!
Visit my homepage http://hometown.aol.com/tdtom30/tomsreef.html

[tech27]

Well then...... how much did they weigh, what are their names, and how do we
get our cigars?


"Timothy Tom" > wrote in message
om...
> I went away two weeks and when I got back this Monday I noticed that
> my rose anenome had split. Today I was moving one of my live rocks,
> and I find another rose anenome. Two splits in two weeks!
> Visit my homepage http://hometown.aol.com/tdtom30/tomsreef.html

[Marc Levenson]

Congratulations!

I was reading your page, and noticed you mentioned you run
Cat 5 cabling from the tank to your computer. Is there a
limit to the lengthy of cabling? It would be very
convenient for me to do the same with my new setup. The
wiring would have to run about 50 feet.

Marc


Timothy Tom wrote:

> I went away two weeks and when I got back this Monday I noticed that
> my rose anenome had split. Today I was moving one of my live rocks,
> and I find another rose anenome. Two splits in two weeks!
> Visit my homepage http://hometown.aol.com/tdtom30/tomsreef.html

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[tech27]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
m...
> Congratulations!
>
> I was reading your page, and noticed you mentioned you run
> Cat 5 cabling from the tank to your computer. Is there a
> limit to the lengthy of cabling?

100 meters or about 300 feet.

[CapFusion]

"Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
m...
> Congratulations!
>
> I was reading your page, and noticed you mentioned you run
> Cat 5 cabling from the tank to your computer. Is there a
> limit to the lengthy of cabling? It would be very
> convenient for me to do the same with my new setup. The
> wiring would have to run about 50 feet.
>

Go for it. 50feet will be fine.

CapFusion,...

[Timothy Tom]

"CapFusion" <CapeFussion...@hotmail.., com> wrote in message >...
> "Marc Levenson" > wrote in message
> m...
> > Congratulations!
> >
> > I was reading your page, and noticed you mentioned you run
> > Cat 5 cabling from the tank to your computer. Is there a
> > limit to the lengthy of cabling? It would be very
> > convenient for me to do the same with my new setup. The
> > wiring would have to run about 50 feet.
> >
>
> Go for it. 50feet will be fine.
>
> CapFusion,...

The cables run from the aquarium, up to a second floor homerun room
where it is spliced to another cat 5 cable running to the office.
Total length of cable involved is approximately 150 ft. This does
cause a problem with the data being corrupted in some way. I called
up Neptune Systems, and they have some type of serial cable adapter
which corrects this situation, which I purchased and fixed the
problem. The aquacontroller has been up and running with the cat 5
cables for approximately 2 years now.

[CapFusion]

"Timothy Tom" > wrote in message
om...
> >
> > Go for it. 50feet will be fine.
> >
> > CapFusion,...
>
> The cables run from the aquarium, up to a second floor homerun room
> where it is spliced to another cat 5 cable running to the office.
> Total length of cable involved is approximately 150 ft. This does
> cause a problem with the data being corrupted in some way. I called
> up Neptune Systems, and they have some type of serial cable adapter
> which corrects this situation, which I purchased and fixed the
> problem. The aquacontroller has been up and running with the cat 5
> cables for approximately 2 years now.

I do not see any problem running 150ft of Cat5 cable or have any data
corruption. If you talking about slicing / spliting the cable then maybe. I
do not split / splice cable. All my Cat5 cable run from a device <=> switch
<=> router. I am not sure what "serial cable adapter" in regarding to Cat5.
Are you talking about serial cable that attach to the device's serial port?
Cat5 cable convert to serial? Very interesting. Common cause of data
corruption normally the cable way too long like say 350 but more likely 500
ft long and or bad campling.

CapFusion,...

[John]

>serial cable adapter

Maybe it was a crossover cable? Most devices on ethernet need a
hub/switch/router between them. Device X Computer or Device=Hub=Computer, X
standing for crossover cable.
~John

[Timothy Tom]

(John) wrote in message >...
> >serial cable adapter
>
> Maybe it was a crossover cable? Most devices on ethernet need a
> hub/switch/router between them. Device X Computer or Device=Hub=Computer, X
> standing for crossover cable.
> ~John

I am sorry that my level of technical understanding is low.
Here is the description of the product from the Neptune Systems
webpage:

Ground Isolated Serial Connector
The ground isolated serial connector (SERIPC9) is used to break ground
loops between your PC and the AquaController. In some installations a
ground loop is formed when a serial connection is made and can cause
erroneous pH and ORP readings. This ground loop can be broken by
installing a GISC in the series with the serial cable from the
AquaController. If the serial cable is going to be permantly hooked up
to the AquaController, then the GISC is recommended. The GISC measures
1.5" x 1.25" x .65" and has one male DB9 connector and one female DB9
connector. Note that the GISC is only for use with the AquaController
or the AquaController 2.

[John]

> If the serial cable is going to be permantly hooked up
>to the AquaController, then the GISC is recommended.

Ahh that explains it. I didnt know much about the Aquacontroller product, I
thought it had a RJ45 10/100 ethernet connection on it. I checked the website
and found out It infact has a RS232 connection which would limit your length to
50 meters. Check here:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/serial-distance.html

You can also try turning down your data rate to increase your distances, table
provided on the link above.
~John

[Marc Levenson]

Okay, what I've got it a DSL Router with one cable coming
from the DLS modem to the router, and one cable from the
router to my computer. If I run more Cat 5 just from a jack
in the wall near the AquaController II, what will it connect
to on my computer? Surely I don't need a second networking
card. So how is that handled?

The router feeds two more lines to other computers in the
house. There is one more out-put available, but the only
input is used with the DSL modem.

Marc


John wrote:
>>If the serial cable is going to be permantly hooked up
>>to the AquaController, then the GISC is recommended.
>
>
> Ahh that explains it. I didnt know much about the Aquacontroller product, I
> thought it had a RJ45 10/100 ethernet connection on it. I checked the website
> and found out It infact has a RS232 connection which would limit your length to
> 50 meters. Check here:
>
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/serial-distance.html
>
> You can also try turning down your data rate to increase your distances, table
> provided on the link above.
> ~John

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[John]

Tried to find a pic of the back of a computer real quick. Instead take a look
at this. This is the male end of a RS232 DB9 (DB25 is wider, looks much like a
printer cable).

~John

[John]

Crap, damn keyboard shortcuts sent the message before I could cut n paste :o)

http://www.pro-jes.com.tw/pics/rs232-s2.jpg

The male side is on your computer usually near your printer port.
~John

[Timothy Tom]

(John) wrote in message >...
> > If the serial cable is going to be permantly hooked up
> >to the AquaController, then the GISC is recommended.
>
> Ahh that explains it. I didnt know much about the Aquacontroller product, I
> thought it had a RJ45 10/100 ethernet connection on it. I checked the website
> and found out It infact has a RS232 connection which would limit your length to
> 50 meters. Check here:
>
> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO/serial-distance.html
>
> You can also try turning down your data rate to increase your distances, table
> provided on the link above.
> ~John


Marc:

The aquacontroller comes with a cable that allows connection between
the aquacontroller and your computer. All I did was to cut the cable
in the middle, and spliced the wires to cat 5 cable.

[John]

This product is a little bit cleaner than splicing wires:

http://www.pccables.com/01910.htm

We use them all the time in the computer world for OOB (Out of Bound access)
connections to the server.
~John

[CapFusion]

"John" > wrote in message
...
> This product is a little bit cleaner than splicing wires:
>
> http://www.pccables.com/01910.htm
>
> We use them all the time in the computer world for OOB (Out of Bound
access)
> connections to the server.
> ~John

That is better.

CapFusion,...

[Marc Levenson]

Thanks guys. I didn't realize it was running to a serial
port. Since I bought my AC II used, I don't necessarily
have all the goodies. I'll get it back in about a week or
so, and at that point I'll be trying to figure out if I'm
missing anything to make this work.

Great thread!

Marc


CapFusion wrote:
> "John" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>This product is a little bit cleaner than splicing wires:
>>
>>http://www.pccables.com/01910.htm
>>
>>We use them all the time in the computer world for OOB (Out of Bound
>
> access)
>
>>connections to the server.
>>~John
>
>
> That is better.
>
> CapFusion,...
>
>

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