Mosquito Larve

[Sherman]

Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it

Thanks
Sherman

[Toni]

"Sherman" > wrote in message
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> Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
>


My area is regularly sprayed with pesticides from the air to combat
mosquitoes, so those larvae would seem unsuitable to me. I don't know enough
about the mosquito life cycle to judge how this affects any larvae that
develop on my property, so I wouldn't dare use them. There are just too many
good live food alternatives.

If you are sure yours aren't toxic then maybe they would work- I'm curious
also so will wait for other opinions.


--
Toni
http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm

[Steve \Srfmon\]

I personally would never feed my fish anything that is not found in the
ocean. I could be wrong but I don't think mosquitoes are found there.
Steve

"Toni" > wrote in message
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>
> "Sherman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
> >
>
>
> My area is regularly sprayed with pesticides from the air to combat
> mosquitoes, so those larvae would seem unsuitable to me. I don't know
enough
> about the mosquito life cycle to judge how this affects any larvae that
> develop on my property, so I wouldn't dare use them. There are just too
many
> good live food alternatives.
>
> If you are sure yours aren't toxic then maybe they would work- I'm curious
> also so will wait for other opinions.
>
>
> --
> Toni
> http://www.cearbhaill.com/reef.htm
>
>

[CheezWiz]

Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito larva for
this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said before, too many
toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...

CW
"Sherman" > wrote in message
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> Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
>
> Thanks
> Sherman
>
>

[ReeFeR_MaN]

Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to marine
tanks, protein is protein, we eat fish and lobsters.




"CheezWiz" > wrote in message
...
> Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito larva
for
> this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said before, too
many
> toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...
>
> CW
> "Sherman" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sherman
> >
> >
>
>

[Rod]

>
>Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to marine
>tanks

except that it is known that it causes liver damage in th efish .

[Justin Boucher]

Protein is protein?
If I recall correctly, most poisons are proteins. So is spider silk. Snake
venom. Your hair and nails.

You might be able to live off hair and nails, but snake venom?


"ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
...
> Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to marine
> tanks, protein is protein, we eat fish and lobsters.
>
>
>
>
> "CheezWiz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito larva
> for
> > this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said before, too
> many
> > toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...
> >
> > CW
> > "Sherman" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sherman
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[ReeFeR_MaN]

This is absolutely ridiculous, many species of mosquitos breed in salt water
ponds, I live next to the ocean, when the winds are right, thousands of
bees, butterflys, flies ect get swept into the ocean, you should see the
fish make short work of these.
In spring when the termites exit there nests and fly, millions of them land
in the sea.......again instantly eaten.
Why do you think estuarine systems are so prevelent with fish life? because
of the abundance of terriestrial food stuffs for them to eat and yes Justin
proteins ARE proteins and in the animal kingdom NO proteins get wasted, I
didn't say to feed hair, nails and spider silk to your marine fish, so why
you said this is a complete mystery, but do you think that there are no
creatures out there that would eat these items? Think before you post in
the future.




"Justin Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> Protein is protein?
> If I recall correctly, most poisons are proteins. So is spider silk.
Snake
> venom. Your hair and nails.
>
> You might be able to live off hair and nails, but snake venom?
>
>
> "ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to marine
> > tanks, protein is protein, we eat fish and lobsters.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "CheezWiz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito
larva
> > for
> > > this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said before,
too
> > many
> > > toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...
> > >
> > > CW
> > > "Sherman" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried it
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sherman
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[John]

>
>This is absolutely ridiculous, many species of mosquitos breed in salt water
>ponds

Quick google search for "Mosquito Larvae marine fish"

http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/fishweb/2652.html

and read the description of bloodworms on this site:

http://www.marinedepot.com/aquarium_fish_food_san_francisco_bay_brand.asp?
ast=&key=




~John

[Justin Boucher]

Sorry ReeFeR, I'll continue thinking during this post as well.

Your reference that proteins are proteins is fundamentally flawed based on
biological and chemical properties. Not all proteins are digestible by all
organisms. One protein that may be required for one organism may very well
be toxic to another. Yes, my examples of hair and snake venom were a bit
extreme. I'm sorry. I could have made the transition easier through more
steps. Since marine and freshwater organisms are established in their
respectively separate environments, it is very easy to have a condition
where food sources readily available in one may not have any dietary benefit
to organisms in the other.

You are correct to say that no proteins get wasted in nature. This does not
mean however that they get properly consumed or transformed into the
required proteins for that organism. Our bodies have learned to break down
many of the proteins we eat to their amino acids and rebuild the ones our
body needs. Some organisms may be able to accomplish this to some level,
but many still are not biologically advanced and don't have as wide a
spectrum of consumable proteins as the more advanced ones do. If the
organism can't break down the protein and build their own, it simply gets
passed through the body as waste and therefore provides no nutritional
value.

Your mentioning of the estuary ecology is only one small example of where
some organisms have learned to adapt to both marine and freshwater
parameters. There are however many estuarine organisms that would die if
kept in either a purely marine or purely freshwater system for a period of
time and require the brackish environment of an estuary. So using the
estuary as an example is too vauge to accurately support your view.
All cows are mammals but not all mammals are cows.

I don't doubt that the insects you mentioned going to the sea or being swept
into get quickly consumed by the fish. The real question is would a
controlled diet of only those food sources be as benefitial to the marine
fish? Or would it just fill their belly without any real dietary nutrition
specific to their biological requirements?

Justin

"ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
...
> This is absolutely ridiculous, many species of mosquitos breed in salt
water
> ponds, I live next to the ocean, when the winds are right, thousands of
> bees, butterflys, flies ect get swept into the ocean, you should see the
> fish make short work of these.
> In spring when the termites exit there nests and fly, millions of them
land
> in the sea.......again instantly eaten.
> Why do you think estuarine systems are so prevelent with fish life?
because
> of the abundance of terriestrial food stuffs for them to eat and yes
Justin
> proteins ARE proteins and in the animal kingdom NO proteins get wasted, I
> didn't say to feed hair, nails and spider silk to your marine fish, so why
> you said this is a complete mystery, but do you think that there are no
> creatures out there that would eat these items? Think before you post in
> the future.
>
>
>
>
> "Justin Boucher" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Protein is protein?
> > If I recall correctly, most poisons are proteins. So is spider silk.
> Snake
> > venom. Your hair and nails.
> >
> > You might be able to live off hair and nails, but snake venom?
> >
> >
> > "ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to
marine
> > > tanks, protein is protein, we eat fish and lobsters.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "CheezWiz" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito
> larva
> > > for
> > > > this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said before,
> too
> > > many
> > > > toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...
> > > >
> > > > CW
> > > > "Sherman" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever tried
it
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Sherman
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[ReeFeR_MaN]

Justin, you made very good points in that post, most valid to my way of
thinking.
I wouldnt suggest that you only ever fed terrestrial foods to marine fish
because
of the valid points that you mentioned, but I still stand by the argument
that a feed of them
now and again will do no damage to your fish.
I also stand by the statement that no proteins get wasted in the food chain.
Sorry I sounded a bit of a jerk in my post to you, I didnt mean to.

Jim

"Justin Boucher" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry ReeFeR, I'll continue thinking during this post as well.
>
> Your reference that proteins are proteins is fundamentally flawed based on
> biological and chemical properties. Not all proteins are digestible by
all
> organisms. One protein that may be required for one organism may very
well
> be toxic to another. Yes, my examples of hair and snake venom were a bit
> extreme. I'm sorry. I could have made the transition easier through more
> steps. Since marine and freshwater organisms are established in their
> respectively separate environments, it is very easy to have a condition
> where food sources readily available in one may not have any dietary
benefit
> to organisms in the other.
>
> You are correct to say that no proteins get wasted in nature. This does
not
> mean however that they get properly consumed or transformed into the
> required proteins for that organism. Our bodies have learned to break
down
> many of the proteins we eat to their amino acids and rebuild the ones our
> body needs. Some organisms may be able to accomplish this to some level,
> but many still are not biologically advanced and don't have as wide a
> spectrum of consumable proteins as the more advanced ones do. If the
> organism can't break down the protein and build their own, it simply gets
> passed through the body as waste and therefore provides no nutritional
> value.
>
> Your mentioning of the estuary ecology is only one small example of where
> some organisms have learned to adapt to both marine and freshwater
> parameters. There are however many estuarine organisms that would die if
> kept in either a purely marine or purely freshwater system for a period of
> time and require the brackish environment of an estuary. So using the
> estuary as an example is too vauge to accurately support your view.
> All cows are mammals but not all mammals are cows.
>
> I don't doubt that the insects you mentioned going to the sea or being
swept
> into get quickly consumed by the fish. The real question is would a
> controlled diet of only those food sources be as benefitial to the marine
> fish? Or would it just fill their belly without any real dietary
nutrition
> specific to their biological requirements?
>
> Justin
>
> "ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
> ...
> > This is absolutely ridiculous, many species of mosquitos breed in salt
> water
> > ponds, I live next to the ocean, when the winds are right, thousands of
> > bees, butterflys, flies ect get swept into the ocean, you should see the
> > fish make short work of these.
> > In spring when the termites exit there nests and fly, millions of them
> land
> > in the sea.......again instantly eaten.
> > Why do you think estuarine systems are so prevelent with fish life?
> because
> > of the abundance of terriestrial food stuffs for them to eat and yes
> Justin
> > proteins ARE proteins and in the animal kingdom NO proteins get wasted,
I
> > didn't say to feed hair, nails and spider silk to your marine fish, so
why
> > you said this is a complete mystery, but do you think that there are no
> > creatures out there that would eat these items? Think before you post
in
> > the future.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Justin Boucher" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Protein is protein?
> > > If I recall correctly, most poisons are proteins. So is spider silk.
> > Snake
> > > venom. Your hair and nails.
> > >
> > > You might be able to live off hair and nails, but snake venom?
> > >
> > >
> > > "ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Honestly there is nothing wrong with feeding land based foods to
> marine
> > > > tanks, protein is protein, we eat fish and lobsters.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "CheezWiz" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Clown fish hatcheries and breeders are known to cultivate mosquito
> > larva
> > > > for
> > > > > this purpose.... I would not risk it myself though. As said
before,
> > too
> > > > many
> > > > > toxins in the environment to try and do it on your own...
> > > > >
> > > > > CW
> > > > > "Sherman" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > Can you feed Mosquito larve to marine fish, has anyone ever
tried
> it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > Sherman
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[CapFusion]

"ReeFeR_MaN" > wrote in message
...
> Justin, you made very good points in that post, most valid to my way of
> thinking.
> I wouldnt suggest that you only ever fed terrestrial foods to marine fish
> because
> of the valid points that you mentioned, but I still stand by the argument
> that a feed of them
> now and again will do no damage to your fish.
> I also stand by the statement that no proteins get wasted in the food
chain.
> Sorry I sounded a bit of a jerk in my post to you, I didnt mean to.
>

Humm.... adding to this.....
Mosquito carry pesticide and other bad thing. You do not want to feed any to
your fish. Mosiquito larvae may be contaminated pesticide. Unless this
larvae is breed and raise, then it should be ok. This is my thought on this
mosiquito larvae to be feed to the fish. Find other type of insect that
human does not hate or see as pest that might use pesticide on them. BTW, do
not even think about roaches.

CapFusion,....