Moor with white lips

[Gunther]

Help. I've got two juvenile black moors in an 18-gallon
tank that's still cycling up after a deep-cleaning.
I've been doing 50% PWCs every other day or so, watching
for cycle progress -- about 2 weeks now, so not much to
report.

One (or both?) fish are showing white lips: that is, just
inside the mouth, it looks white. Not fuzzy, like a fungus,
nor solidly white: more like they'd been chewing chalk.
(Does that paint the right picture?) No "threads" or lumps, etc.

I've started adding salt, now at about 0.1% salinity and
am feeding medicated food (Medi-Gold) but I hesitate to
do anything else until I have a firmer diagnosis.

This doesn't read like anything I can find at Puregold
(http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm)
or anywhere else right now.

Gunther

[johnhuddleston]

Do you have gravel in the tank? I think it could be from rooting around in
the gravel looking for food. My own goldfish were fine until they got large
enough to dig into the gravel (rather than skim the top), then they had
white lips until i moved them to a bare bottomed tank, where their lips
turned normal, I put them is a gravelled tank and the white lips came back
within a week. It didn`t seen to affect their health much.

"Gunther" > wrote in message
t...
> Help. I've got two juvenile black moors in an 18-gallon
> tank that's still cycling up after a deep-cleaning.
> I've been doing 50% PWCs every other day or so, watching
> for cycle progress -- about 2 weeks now, so not much to
> report.
>
> One (or both?) fish are showing white lips: that is, just
> inside the mouth, it looks white. Not fuzzy, like a fungus,
> nor solidly white: more like they'd been chewing chalk.
> (Does that paint the right picture?) No "threads" or lumps, etc.
>
> I've started adding salt, now at about 0.1% salinity and
> am feeding medicated food (Medi-Gold) but I hesitate to
> do anything else until I have a firmer diagnosis.
>
> This doesn't read like anything I can find at Puregold
> (http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm)
> or anywhere else right now.
>
> Gunther

[Geezer From The Freezer]

One of my moors (I have a few! :D ) has whiter lips. I think he just has a
thicker slime coat in that area.

[Gunther]

In article >, says...
> One of my moors (I have a few! :D ) has whiter lips. I think he just has a
> thicker slime coat in that area.
>
Hmmm....I'd thought of that as well. I think it may be periodic
as well -- I could swear that it's worse in the AM than later.
My real concern however is that I lost a prize Moor a couple months
ago to something (still unknown!) that started this way on her.
The water quality is as expected at mid-cycle: trace ammonia and
nitrites which I control with frequent PWCs, no sign of nitrates yet.


Also, to the previous response re: gravel. These guys are on
a medium-coarse black sand substrate, as are all my fish now.
It's sold under the name "Black Beauty" at some places, and
is quite nice looking. I tried going back to a lighter (tan)
sand but the glare from the lights was just too weird after
being used to this black, and I assume the fish felt the same.
Anyway, I doubt it's a factor.

Gunther

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thick slime coat
healing skin is white, like from ammonia burns or abrasions.
INgrid

Gunther > wrote:

>Help. I've got two juvenile black moors in an 18-gallon
>tank that's still cycling up after a deep-cleaning.
>I've been doing 50% PWCs every other day or so, watching
>for cycle progress -- about 2 weeks now, so not much to
>report.
>
>One (or both?) fish are showing white lips: that is, just
>inside the mouth, it looks white. Not fuzzy, like a fungus,
>nor solidly white: more like they'd been chewing chalk.
>(Does that paint the right picture?) No "threads" or lumps, etc.
>
>I've started adding salt, now at about 0.1% salinity and
>am feeding medicated food (Medi-Gold) but I hesitate to
>do anything else until I have a firmer diagnosis.
>
>This doesn't read like anything I can find at Puregold
>(http://www.mu.edu/~buxtoni/puregold/disease/disease.htm)
>or anywhere else right now.
>
>Gunther



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