frogs, algae eaters, snails....

[Danya]

ok, to put this simply, i like frogs (water frogs of course) and was
curious if they work well in an aquarium. i've heard they just hide
all day... any comments...?

i recently set up a 32 gal tank and am sort of worried that it might
grow algae. my 10 gal tank didn't but it was on the other side of the
room. i keep my shades shut so little sunlight gets in the room...
but would an algae eater help from having to do gravel vacs as often
also, or no? also, do snails pretty much do the same job as algae
eaters (corys, plecs, ect.)? there is a certain type of pleco i saw
in my book (forgot the name of the fish) but it is black and white and
i was thinking about getting 1 like that, or are they more comfortable
schooling in groups of 3 or more?

thanks in advance,
Danya

[RedForeman ©®]

||| Algae eaters... well... I know there are a few that actually DO eat
||| algae... but my common pl*co won't, and my 3yo albino bristlenose
||| does in spurts... and really, I'm not sure how much snails do...
||| they do a bit, but not a ton... they're always good to have around
||| for diversity, and snails are a good indicator to the health of a
||| tank.... snails and corys are different... Corys are bottom
||| feeders, not algae eaters....
||
|| thanks for the info. i wasn't really sure what they ate. anyway,
|| today i was at the LFS and i saw some...i think they were called
|| "julei cory"...anyhow i thought they were very pretty. anyone know
|| how big they get? they were pretty small.. so do corys like to
|| school to keep them happy, or would just 1 or 2 be okay?

Most, if not all corydora catfish, are a dwarf species, staying under 4"...
the julii http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/callicht/corydora/378_f.php
very nice fish....very social, as most corys are... yes, they LOVE to be
with others, depending on the size of the tank... if you can handle 3 of
them, go for it.... All corydoras love shrimp pellets, but a couple pellets
can feed 2 or 3 pretty easy... plus, being a bottom feeder, they can clean
up uneaten food from others... IF it reaches the bottom...
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[Dan White]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
...
> Most, if not all corydora catfish, are a dwarf species, staying under
4"...
> the julii
http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/callicht/corydora/378_f.php
> very nice fish....very social, as most corys are... yes, they LOVE to be
> with others, depending on the size of the tank... if you can handle 3 of
> them, go for it....

So THAT'S what I have at the bottom of my tank. I always liked the
personality of these things. They just go about their business and don't
get mixed up in any tank controversies or politics.

dwhite

[Danya]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message >...
> Most, if not all corydora catfish, are a dwarf species, staying under 4"...
> the julii http://www.planetcatfish.com/catelog/callicht/corydora/378_f.php
> very nice fish....very social, as most corys are... yes, they LOVE to be
> with others, depending on the size of the tank... if you can handle 3 of
> them, go for it.... All corydoras love shrimp pellets, but a couple pellets
> can feed 2 or 3 pretty easy... plus, being a bottom feeder, they can clean
> up uneaten food from others... IF it reaches the bottom...

okay, well... i have a 32 gallon tank with 2 swortails, 3 guppies, and
6 tetras (3 goldskirt, 3 long finned serpae). i want to do so much
with my tank but it's probably not big enough. i'd like to get 2
african dwarf frogs, 3 of those julii corys, and then a couple bigger
"centerpeice" fish. would all of that be a little excessive?? not to
mention my livebearers are all males, should i add females?? i don't
want any fry though, that's why i got all males, but someone mentioned
in another thread that i should get females. i don't know what to do!
and mr. redforeman, i know you can help me. haha, you are going to
become my personal aquarium guy...that is, if you don't mind. and,
that is, if you are a guy...if not then you can be my personal
aquarium fish girl. haha although i'm pretty sure you're a guy..
okay, i'm blabbing now.

[Peggy Butterworth]

Tank politics! I like that phrase. I must have a georgebushfish. He's
always bossing the other fish around, but he's not very bright :-)

Peggy

Dan White wrote:

> So THAT'S what I have at the bottom of my tank. I always liked the
> personality of these things. They just go about their business and don't
> get mixed up in any tank controversies or politics.
>
> dwhite

[RedForeman ©®]

|| okay, well... i have a 32 gallon tank with 2 swortails, 3 guppies,
|| and 6 tetras (3 goldskirt, 3 long finned serpae). i want to do so
|| much with my tank but it's probably not big enough. i'd like to get 2
|| african dwarf frogs, 3 of those julii corys, and then a couple bigger
|| "centerpeice" fish. would all of that be a little excessive?? not
|| to mention my livebearers are all males, should i add females?? i don't
|| want any fry though, that's why i got all males, but someone
|| mentioned in another thread that i should get females. i don't know
what to
|| do! and mr. redforeman, i know you can help me. haha, you are
|| going to become my personal aquarium guy...that is, if you don't mind.
and,
|| that is, if you are a guy...if not then you can be my personal
|| aquarium fish girl. haha although i'm pretty sure you're a guy..
|| okay, i'm blabbing now.

If it were me, I'd trade the 2 of the guppy males, and get 3 corys and maybe
1 angel.... but then again, I've not had angels before and they've been on
my mind lately...

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|| become my personal aquarium guy...that is, if you don't mind. and,
|| that is, if you are a guy...if not then you can be my personal
|| aquarium fish girl. haha although i'm pretty sure you're a guy..
|| okay, i'm blabbing now.

My wife can back me up on my man-ness.... :-P

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[Dan White]

"Peggy Butterworth" > wrote in message
...
> Tank politics! I like that phrase. I must have a georgebushfish. He's
> always bossing the other fish around, but he's not very bright :-)
>

lol. Thanks Peggy, but you're dissin' my man! I prefer to think of him
more like one of those sucker fish (hey, no jokes) that sucks up the scum in
the tank!

dwhite


> Peggy
>
> Dan White wrote:
>
> > So THAT'S what I have at the bottom of my tank. I always liked the
> > personality of these things. They just go about their business and
don't
> > get mixed up in any tank controversies or politics.
> >
> > dwhite
>

[Danya]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message >...
> If it were me, I'd trade the 2 of the guppy males, and get 3 corys and maybe
> 1 angel.... but then again, I've not had angels before and they've been on
> my mind lately...

i'm not sure if any of the stores around here will trade fish or not.
not to mention, sonny jr., my oldest guppy barely has a tail left and
is constipated again! i GUESS i could trade in victor and darien
although i'm already a little attached. haha! maybe i'll go the the
LFS tomorrow and see what they can do for me...

OH, i was looking through this one book i have on fishies, and there's
this rainbow fish i thought would be a good "centerpeice" fish. it
even said so in the book. i was going to bring the book to work with
me today so i would remember and post the name of it in here but i
forgot...!

ok thanks for the suggestions mr. redforeman!

[Danya]

ah-ha, i remember now... a Boeseman rainbowfish i'm pretty sure.

[Danya]

okay, so i went out today and bought 3 of those julei corys. they
seem happy so far! and it sounds as if the LFS does trade fish. so
once i decide on a "centerpeice" fish, i'll probably have to trade a
couple of fish...

[RedForeman ©®]

|| okay, so i went out today and bought 3 of those julei corys. they
|| seem happy so far! and it sounds as if the LFS does trade fish. so
|| once i decide on a "centerpeice" fish, i'll probably have to trade a
|| couple of fish...

Great... and yes a bosemani rainbowfish would be a nice centerfish....
hahaha!!!

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[Danya]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message >...
> Great... and yes a bosemani rainbowfish would be a nice centerfish....
> hahaha!!!

i went looking for one of those rainbowfish and....out of the 3 stores
i went to, no one had them! although petsmart did have australian
rainbowfish, which were quite pretty. i'd really love a colorful
cichlid, would 1 of those be happy in my tank do you think?? i'm
worried because my other guppies fins are getting nipped at now, and i
don't know what TO DOOOOOOO!!

[RedForeman ©®]

|| "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
||| Great... and yes a bosemani rainbowfish would be a nice
||| centerfish.... hahaha!!!
||
|| i went looking for one of those rainbowfish and....out of the 3
|| stores
|| i went to, no one had them! although petsmart did have australian
|| rainbowfish, which were quite pretty. i'd really love a colorful
|| cichlid, would 1 of those be happy in my tank do you think?? i'm
|| worried because my other guppies fins are getting nipped at now, and
|| i
|| don't know what TO DOOOOOOO!!

Austrailian are pretty plain compared to the bosemani... usually the
bosemani are more expensive, which is why alot of LFS won't carry them...
it's usually the upper classed LFS that will stock them... Keep up your
search, if you want, look online, but you'll pay more for that too... in my
area, there is one LFS that carries them, they're $14.99 each... as
juveniles

Honestly, I'd opt NOT to get a cichlid if your partial to your guppies...
they will become harassed..

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[Danya]

"RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message
> Austrailian are pretty plain compared to the bosemani... usually the
> bosemani are more expensive, which is why alot of LFS won't carry them...
> it's usually the upper classed LFS that will stock them... Keep up your
> search, if you want, look online, but you'll pay more for that too... in my
> area, there is one LFS that carries them, they're $14.99 each... as
> juveniles
>
> Honestly, I'd opt NOT to get a cichlid if your partial to your guppies...
> they will become harassed..

well that's good to know then, but some of those cichlids are sooo
pretty and seem to be very smart.

guess i'll have to take a drive to a rich city and try to find a fish
store, hahaha. do most LFS order requests? like if i told them i
wanted 1 of those boesimaniwhatever rainbowfish, could they order 1
for me?

[Dan White]

"Danya" > wrote in message
om...
> "RedForeman ©®" > wrote in message

> > Honestly, I'd opt NOT to get a cichlid if your partial to your
guppies...
> > they will become harassed..
>
> well that's good to know then, but some of those cichlids are sooo
> pretty and seem to be very smart.
>
When I was a kid one of my tanks was a 10 or 15 gal with convict cichlids.
I took broken shards of slate and piled them all the way up to the top of
the tank along the back wall. One cichlid dug out a hole underneath the
bottom slate and made a home/nest for herself. To my surprise one day,
there was a swarm of little cichlids coming out of the hole! The mother and
I think father would suck them up in their mouth and spit them back in the
hole when they swam too far away. Soon enough, I had cichlids populating
all the cracks between the slate that was piled up. It looked like a
cichlid hotel. It was amusing because some of them went into their slot
kind of sideways, but I guess they each had their little territory. I can't
remember how many I ended up with, but I seem to remember many of the little
ones survived. They did breed more than once, but I don't think all the
"batches" survived. They were very entertaining, kind of like an ant farm.

dwhite